Exactly bro, well said. I notice this exact thing on apex. Since the matches are spread so wide with different ranks, in one same game I’ll experience both sides of what ur saying. Can usually destroy gold/plat players when i run into them, my game clearly works to my advantage against them, all my shots connect effortlessly. (I play controller so the weak aim assist somehow gets enhanced and literally drags me onto them)Maelstrom wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 16:20Overall just a toxic thread for no reason. Anyone saying you can or can't reach high elo with this issue is spreading nonsense - you can have different degrees of the issue, and someone experiencing it in a very severe manner will obviously not be able to reach high elo.
My experience has been in Overwatch, I can play against PLAT and GOLD players with a new account, and sure their movement is very bad and these are bad players, but I can look back at my footage and very clearly see that they are moving very slowly, that sometimes I will very clearly miss and the game will register a headshot.
On the total opposite side of the spectrum, I will play against a GM mercy main, and they can swap to widow and out duel me. I can go look at killcams, replays, whatever and see blatantly that they are visibly missing and the game is granting a headshot. I can see that I had no time to react.
Everyone has this issue, and if you are high rank and experiencing it, I encourage you to make a new account, fuck around at low rank and watch your footage back, you will see the shots that you should be missing, you will see the players taking 500-1000ms to react to you. That is not solely because they are bad but because their setup is shit.
Also elo in a video game isn't the direct measurement of fps skill you're after. Another funny proxy is looking at people's kovaaks scores, where a complete novice with median scores is able to clown on GM players, while someone with 99th percentile scores will struggle against even diamonds.
In a more stable environment - quake live where the servers are the same and the players are the same, the CONSISTENCY and REPEATABILITY of the issue is insane. You can beam certain players - they are frozen in place and unable to react or move, or you can try to frag the top fragger in FFA, and your lg will seem to register only half the hits, and they are overall just A-Ding as though they're playing on LAN.
TL;DR
your issue is relative to other players, If you are high elo and experiencing it against fellow high elo players - consider yourself lucky. You can be low elo and then experiencing it against people you know to be dogshit because they vaguely aim in your general direction and the game grants a headshot.
For sure people can skill past the problem and I have no doubt if I gave some GM players my PC they would easily get that rank, but I'm also dead certain that other GM players wouldn't be able to get past diamond.
As soon as i run into a higher ranked player (master/pred) u can instantly tell. Their movement is like super speed, and ur shots magically don’t connect like they do with the lower ranked players. The feeling of aim assist goes out the window, now feels like aim resist. Tracking is impossible. Half of ur clip disappears doing no damage, and now vice versa happens. Now they are feeling the advantage u just had over the gold / plat.
Literally In the exact same lobby, both things happen
So what is it giving some people the advantage and some the handicap?