Re: 240hz displays are blurry
Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 10:30
Ok, wait a minute. For a better understanding, lets say I'm buying either of the Asus 240Hz monitors. They are 240Hz and advertise 1ms GtG. What am I missing? Persistence?
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Is the Average for the new 240Hz Asus monitors better than on a firs gen Asus VG248QE? I don't use stroblight made by ToastyXjorimt wrote:@BTRY B 529th FA BN, modern TN panels can reach 1ms (and lower) MPRT (Motion Picture Response Time) with strobing, but the reported "1ms GtG" (grey to grey) for every single TN panel is a marketing gimmick; yes, good TN panels can sometimes near that number with good overdrive at the minimums (which is why they dare to claim it), but they aren't close to maintaining it at the average.
darzo wrote:Good that you've resolved your situation to your satisfaction, but don't expect that you can come here and call threads "240hz monitors are not ready for market" and "240hz monitors are blurry" and get away with it without having something compelling to offer. My experience contradicts yours, as does a TFT review you yourself brought up along with a majority of other types of reviews. Your claims don't hold, which was why it was suggested to you to replace your monitor or buy from another company. It seems far more likely you just bought the wrong monitor.
Chief Blur Buster wrote:Both yehaw and darzo are right to varying extents, so there's no reason for them to be putting each other down.
So while your eyes may not be sensitive to the blur issue I and many other see and complain about, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So please, give it a rest.Chief Blur Buster wrote:There's been almost 10 years for 120Hz monitors to get really good overdrive, and some of them now have nearly perfect linear-looking motion blur during full framerate motion. And some people have gotten used to that. Overdrive for 240Hz monitors are still in its infancy and calibrations for 145fps-240fps frame rates cannot recycle 144Hz overdrive lookup tables (but many probably did it) without making certain kinds of ghosting artifacts reappear.
Whoa, no putting words in mouth. First, hold on:yehaw wrote:So while your eyes may not be sensitive to the blur issue I and many other see and complain about, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So please, give it a rest.
Big ask! (unless Lexlazootin has done it before) Usually, that's like asking an amateur runner to do a marathon. It's like asking someone to help you with your homework by asking them to take a college course first (almost!) before being able to help you.yehaw wrote:And lexlazootin, please post 240hz compared to your BenQ 144hz from ufo test.
So what's the final result we're talking about? When I asked the Chief about these monitors having lower pixel response times he downplayed the significance, but you're doing the opposite.jorimt wrote:@darzo, right, but that's before overdrive is applied. Currently, 3.0ms is the average with overdrive applied.
I also see lexlazootin (same user that said a few pages back 240hz are fine and what I've been saying is flawed ) left a reply in the thread about his Acer:Akaranir wrote:Hello,
I just bought the PG258Q (my first monitor 144hz and above) and i really struggle with the blur that creates itself in motion because of the highlighting of the pixels i suppose to be "pixel inversion".
That's quite ironic in my eyes, but the topic/discussion is 5-6 months old, so maybe he forgot he said it. I think the dates correlate around the release date of the monitors.lexlazootin wrote:Yep, i have the Acer and G-Sync and i'm pretty sure it's just how the panel works. I don't have a solution but i see it too, especially at lower hz.