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StarWarsCoffee
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by StarWarsCoffee » 19 Dec 2021, 17:44
kyube wrote: ↑19 Dec 2021, 08:24
StarWarsCoffee wrote: ↑19 Dec 2021, 08:17
Tested the XG2431 for a while in Apex yesterday switching between PureXP+ settings on and off. There's definitely something with PureXP+ on that gives me a bit of fatigue, but I can't pinpoint exactly what it is. That said, it provides a noticeably clearer experience as opposed to it being off, although it's not always 'better' per say, just different.
What I did notice is that Apex seemed 'juttery' with PureXP+ on. As I would pan around a room and make fast turns, sometimes it would be smooth, sometimes it felt like I got a stutter or that I got duplicate images or something. In a weird way, while it was noticeably clearer in motion, it didn't always feel 'smoother'. If anything, sometimes it felt unnatural.
More testing required.
This is the default behaviour of strobing on all monitors, read through
viewtopic.php?t=3555 for more information.
Strobing enhances stutters a ton, follow the link above for a clearer understanding on motion blur reduction. Also, the reason you are experiencing eye fatigue is because your eyes do not like strobing (have you used CRTs before or other monitors which support strobing?)
Interesting, I didn’t know that strobing increases stuttering. It’s very noticeable in game. Not always a stutter but a double image sometimes too which is definitely straining on the eyes as it looks unnatural and disorienting.
I have a 3080ti and have no problem holding 240fps in Apex. However, I didn’t notice this the first time I tried it but I think I recently turned VSYNC off which might have led to some problems. Will turn it back on tonight and test.
I’m not interested in trying the 120hz option just for motion clarity, would rather jump to a 360hz+ panel instead without strobing.
I haven’t tried any other strobing or CRT so there’s a chance that it’s just not for me at the end of the day. Who knows.
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StarWarsCoffee
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by StarWarsCoffee » 20 Dec 2021, 00:07
Just played Apex all night on the XG2431 with strobing OFF and didn't have any fatigue or headaches or anything. It's looking like I'm in that small camp that doesn't do well with strobing. I also noticed something odd the last few days after gaming with strobing ON for a while. When I left the PC, I would have a very slight flickering in my vision, especially noticeable when in darker rooms. I also didn't notice any detriment having strobing off all night (actually forgot it was even off) so that's probably (1) a sign I don't really need it and (2) probably a testament to that this monitor is plenty good without strobing too.
That said, if I'm not strobing, I think I'm going to try to get my hands on the Acer 390hz and just go for max frames.
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planart
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by planart » 20 Dec 2021, 01:20
StarWarsCoffee wrote: ↑20 Dec 2021, 00:07
Just played Apex all night on the XG2431 with strobing OFF and didn't have any fatigue or headaches or anything. It's looking like I'm in that small camp that doesn't do well with strobing. I also noticed something odd the last few days after gaming with strobing ON for a while. When I left the PC, I would have a very slight flickering in my vision, especially noticeable when in darker rooms. I also didn't notice any detriment having strobing off all night (actually forgot it was even off) so that's probably (1) a sign I don't really need it and (2) probably a testament to that this monitor is plenty good without strobing too.
That said, if I'm not strobing, I think I'm going to try to get my hands on the Acer 390hz and just go for max frames.
I've had the exact same experience with another highly praised 240Hz with strobing. Strained eyes, headache, nausea even brink of migraine if I use it for active gaming (monitor pretty close to my face). I though I could "grow the legs" for it, but doesn't seem to be happening - and I'm not seeing that huge of a benefit outside of test imagery. I did not have same experience with 390Hz Acer even with VRB on. However I have now decided to disable all strobing though as I don't think it's good for my health.
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Zace
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by Zace » 20 Dec 2021, 05:44
StarWarsCoffee wrote: ↑20 Dec 2021, 00:07
Just played Apex all night on the XG2431 with strobing OFF and didn't have any fatigue or headaches or anything. It's looking like I'm in that small camp that doesn't do well with strobing. I also noticed something odd the last few days after gaming with strobing ON for a while. When I left the PC, I would have a very slight flickering in my vision, especially noticeable when in darker rooms. I also didn't notice any detriment having strobing off all night (actually forgot it was even off) so that's probably (1) a sign I don't really need it and (2) probably a testament to that this monitor is plenty good without strobing too.
That said, if I'm not strobing, I think I'm going to try to get my hands on the Acer 390hz and just go for max frames.
Had the acer 390hz too. And for games like apex where you don’t hit 390 I don’t think it’ll out perform XG2431. However in a different game(valorant). There are some benefit of acer over XG2431. When you hold an angle(crosshair is not moving) waiting for the enemy to peek. The extra frames help to smooth out the swinging motion allowing you to hit their heads easier. Other than that, the raw clarity of XG2431 outperform the acer.
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Dumaguy1
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by Dumaguy1 » 20 Dec 2021, 13:16
I received the Asus 360, It's a challenge to get a steady 300 fps in Overwatch. I have a 9700k and a 2080ti. For all of the games I've tried there's a cpu bottleneck for frames around 300 fps. That said it does feel really smooth to play on even at lower frame rates. The colours and Gamma are miles ahead of the XG2431. It feels like the Viewsonic is designed for one purpose only, to have perfect motion clarity in game. It is better at that than the ASUS as far as seeing a clear image at slower speeds. At higher movement speeds it gets very busy visually, i think the ASUS is better at that. The Asus is a smoother but less sharp experience and you don't have to fuss with gamma or contrast.
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StarWarsCoffee
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by StarWarsCoffee » 20 Dec 2021, 15:31
Zace wrote: ↑20 Dec 2021, 05:44
Had the acer 390hz too. And for games like apex where you don’t hit 390 I don’t think it’ll out perform XG2431. However in a different game(valorant). There are some benefit of acer over XG2431. When you hold an angle(crosshair is not moving) waiting for the enemy to peek. The extra frames help to smooth out the swinging motion allowing you to hit their heads easier. Other than that, the raw clarity of XG2431 outperform the acer.
Yes, except for the fact that I don’t think I can use strobing without fatigue. Therefore the XG2431 just becomes any other 240hz monitor for me. I’ll be very curious to see raw data on how it stacks up to the other 240hz monitor for latency and such. But if I can’t utilize strobing, then I think a 360hz+ monitor is going to provide advantages (also 3080ti and 10700k here).
That said, even without getting headaches or fatigue, the strobing was producing some weird results in Apex. Sometimes incredibly clear and smooth, other times more jarring and off putting with noticeable double images and stuff.
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isotopez
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by isotopez » 20 Dec 2021, 17:20
StarWarsCoffee wrote: ↑20 Dec 2021, 15:31
Zace wrote: ↑20 Dec 2021, 05:44
Had the acer 390hz too. And for games like apex where you don’t hit 390 I don’t think it’ll out perform XG2431. However in a different game(valorant). There are some benefit of acer over XG2431. When you hold an angle(crosshair is not moving) waiting for the enemy to peek. The extra frames help to smooth out the swinging motion allowing you to hit their heads easier. Other than that, the raw clarity of XG2431 outperform the acer.
Yes, except for the fact that I don’t think I can use strobing without fatigue. Therefore the XG2431 just becomes any other 240hz monitor for me. I’ll be very curious to see raw data on how it stacks up to the other 240hz monitor for latency and such. But if I can’t utilize strobing, then I think a 360hz+ monitor is going to provide advantages (also 3080ti and 10700k here).
That said, even without getting headaches or fatigue, the strobing was producing some weird results in Apex. Sometimes incredibly clear and smooth, other times more jarring and off putting with noticeable double images and stuff.
I have the monitor and play apex as well. I created a custom 180hz and have been "tuning" this monitor for the last week. There have been a few weird quirks getting everything setup. I agree with the comments about it being incredibly clear and smooth and other times more jarring. I am going to assume this is due to frame drops in Apex. Are you monitoring frametimes in RTSS? I get some big spikes to around ~33ms during gameplay due to sudden and weird frame drops ( I think drops like these are due to poor engine/game optimization )
I will say that the motion clarity on the Xg2431 is pretty dang nice. I do wish it was brighter but if I play at night with lights dim its a non issue. Daytime it seems pretty dim if I used 25 strobe pulse for optimum clarity. I turn purexp off during the day as I am not gaming anyways.
I have an aw2721d that is my work/desktop monitor and using 1440p for overall game clarity is incredible. That said, I have worked some days on the xg2431 as my primary monitor and wasn't unhappy with the unstrobed experience. For me, it is replacing my xg2402 ( fond memories old friend ) and I enjoy the motion clarity experience more than the 2721d.
Sorry to hear you experience that fatigue. It was a bit weird at first but I have not had any headaches or issues.
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Dumaguy1
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by Dumaguy1 » 20 Dec 2021, 18:48
For me I like to lock my frame rate so it doesn't move. I do a locked 238 with the Viewsonic if there's not a lot of action going on it looks amazing but when the action picks up it's almost an eyeball overload. It's like everything you are looking at is pumped full of steroids and MSG. I think I'll be choosing the Asus 360 over the Viewsonic. I'll give it a few more days of testing.
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Viilutaja
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by Viilutaja » 21 Dec 2021, 12:34
Just got the Viewsonic XG2431 today. Packed up my BenQ Zowie XL2546K.
What are the best settings for this monitor to use for CSGO?
There should be sticky in the first post for these settings if they have already been posted here. 82 pages is a lot to scroll through

But sorry if this has been answered already in this thread somewhere and I am asking again

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pplement
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by pplement » 21 Dec 2021, 16:08
Hey guys, i just came across an opportunity to upgrade from my Acer GN246HL 144hz to this ViewSonic XG2431 240hz, there's currently a really good discount on this monitor where i live and i had a few questions.
I'm really ignorant in all of this so i'm sorry if my questions are dumb, i'm just asking for a little bit of tolerance for someone stupid.
I'm deciding between ZOWIE XL2540K and this one, i don't care about colour at ALL 0% i end up adjusting the digital vibrance to max and just gettting used to it, i'm a fps competitive player so honestly the only stuff i care about are response times and input lag(this is probably dumb).
I investigated a little bit and found that the ZOWIE XL2540K has an average response time of 4ms when running at 240hz and about 3.7ms of input lag so i tried to find the XG2431 values to have a comparation, i scoured the internet and this forum post and i wasn't able to find values tested in that manner, i've spent the last 4 hours searching for reviews, posts but i wasn't able to find anything trustworthy, please lend me a hand.