Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

[Discorz]

Absolutely correct, 60% off duty cycle according to RTings Backlight graph.

I'm surprised to see that, with OD Normal, it has the lowest response times and total response times mode with no overshoot among the other 360hz monitors tested by RTings, I thought that the AW2521H would beat the XV in this aspect.

It has slowest response times if we set all of them to 2/3 overdrive. That could be estimated using ufo shots. For NX and X25 rtings chose 1/3 as best overdrives. Still it's most impressive considering the price.

The numbers also tell us that in that top 10 there are 7 LCD and 3 OLED and all 7 LCD panels suffer from overshoot to a degree, response times ranking is a meme when Rtings itself claims that 8.6% avg overshoot for some monitors is unusable and 23% Overshoot on the G9 is "the best mode".

Don't take their rankings too seriously, just use that site for their response time tables and graphs.

Yeah, this again reminds us rtings need to update their testing methodology to gamma corrected. 10% tolerance isn't good either. Noone should take their result seriously. Only somewhat usable data from rtings are total response times. They even sometimes tend to take misleading motion pictures and reference image doesn't cover enough transitions. That's why I always preferred testufo.

I was initially disappointed in seeing that the Acer scored 0.1ms higher than the Alienware 360hz and 0.2ms higher than the Asus 360hz. But after reading their response and using both the Alienware and Acer for the last 2 weeks - I can agree 0.1 - 0.2ms of input lag is honestly negligible (possibly even a margin of error), and I can't feel a difference between the two monitors I own. My performance is exactly the same on both monitors.

No need to worry about input lag these days. Here's something that might help you sleep at night:
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Good luck noticing 1 ms of lag difference.

[lizardpeter]

Does anyone know if the input lag measurements in the RTINGS review were taken at 360 Hz or 390 Hz? In the section above where they list the native resolution and refresh rate, they list 1080p 360 Hz. Then in the input lag section, they list that it was taken at “native resolution.”

[lizardpeter]

It’s also interesting to see their input lag results conflict with Optimum Tech’s results using LDAT. He found it to be significantly lower latency than the ASUS 360 Hz monitor. I wonder what the margin of error is for both of them.

[planart]

All LCD tech is somewhat flawed and we have reached the end point. We are talking about diviations of couple milliseconds between top models in well under 5ms club with response times. Where all of the options are still fundamentally flawed for the job. You really have to examine the difference of the flaw with a magnifying glass to even see it.

The discrepancies in between test results are greater than the ones actually in panels. Between review outlets, there is sometimes no correlation at all with results. Both can tell its "good" but measured numbers seem to be all over the place. That's how short those x,x milliseconds differences are. Theres too many variables always to repeat everything perfectly. People then use these measurements and treat them as trash or religion. What ever supports their personal placebo agenda the best.

It's actually quite frustrating but still enticing to follow.

If you want a good gaming monitor that does not bottleneck your performance, buy something with +144Hz, check a blurufo shot and that it performs "good enough" and read a review that states it has low input lag. Preferably IPS. Dont dig deeper. It's pretty much as good as it's going to get with LCD's. Anything after that you are paying pretty pennies for abysmal gains and entering this never ending crazy train.

If you are interested in this sht, then why not ofc. But if you're out there just to get a good monitor for your video games for "competitive edge". Stop.

[zhero]

I wish rtings had a xg2431 review. Is general consensus that xl2546k is better for really fast paced games like warzone or apex legends? I just cant get myself to pay 500 for a 2 year old monitor, but then again its only 100 more than the acer -.-

[PiCKiN]

I wish rtings had a xg2431 review. Is general consensus that xl2546k is better for really fast paced games like warzone or apex legends? I just cant get myself to pay 500 for a 2 year old monitor, but then again its only 100 more than the acer -.-

The XG2431is about to win for next monitor to be reviewed by them. Vote if you haven't yet.

[zhero]

one thing to note, i think the acer at 390hz is a tad clearer in the ufo test by the naked eye without strobing compared to the xg2431. with strobing the xg2431 wins definitely. that's just my first impression. i think the acer would've been even nicer with a stronger strobe light setting as mentioned earlier because even for me the viewsonic at ultra pure xp is viewable with my lights on, not as bad as people mentioned.

[lyrill]

The review is up!!

"The Acer Nitro XV252Q has superb gradient handling. There's some noticeable banding in dark shades of gray and red, but it's not really noticeable with regular content. Although Acer advertises it to only support 16.7 million colors, it uses dithering to approximate the appearance of a 10-bit panel, and it accepts a 10-bit signal. Note that this monitor can only accept a 10-bit signal if the refresh rate is set to a maximum of 300Hz over DisplayPort or 120Hz over HDMI. Higher than that, it can only accept an 8-bit signal, resulting in noticeable 8-bit banding in some content."

does that mean when watching 10 bit content with potplayer etc that shows it's 10 bit content (for example HDR) I should lower the hz to 300 or below? Not that 24/25/30/60 fps content need 390hz anyways lol. and esp with HDR mode the excessive brightness does feel more laggy (that is to say, I guess I can test it right now but I don't know if 90 less "hz" would cause more degradation than whatever this "8 bit banding" does-- even if the content is way below 390fps)

[lyrill]

lmfao seriously r6s still not fixed it? even when a top 2 pro is using the 390hz? come on already

well at least thanks for letting us know that nobody else is missing out on some weird trick to brute 390hz on r6s even to this date, if they so want to play that game still

or is there?

[CortexFPS]

one thing to note, i think the acer at 390hz is a tad clearer in the ufo test by the naked eye without strobing compared to the xg2431. with strobing the xg2431 wins definitely. that's just my first impression. i think the acer would've been even nicer with a stronger strobe light setting as mentioned earlier because even for me the viewsonic at ultra pure xp is viewable with my lights on, not as bad as people mentioned.

xg2431 is clearer regardless, with or without strobe.