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Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 13:02
by A Solid lad
Yes, that's still unclear to me. Posts claiming that DAS is greyed out in some cases, probably refers to other LGs monitor models, I also googled it, there's also some other LGs monitor models with advertised DAS, but no such option in OSD. We're not the ones confusing about it :(
Yep, we read the same posts then.

Thanks for all the info!
Do u know what the other results below the first one, mean on that graph?

(btw, what the heck is on your avatar pic? :D)

Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 15:31
by BTRY B 529th FA BN
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Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 15:41
by Chief Blur Buster
A Solid lad wrote:
Chief Blur Buster wrote:For an explanation of the two different response-time measurement methods, please see:
1. High Speed Video of LightBoost -- http://www.blurbusters.com/lightboost/video
2. Blur Busters Law: Amazing Journey To Future 1000Hz Monitors -- http://www.blurbusters.com/1000hz-journey
I know the difference between the two, I just don't know what LG is claiming here.
You're saying it's probably persistence?
Yes, probably.

Persistence (MPRT) is also a different kind of response time, as M.P.R.T. stands for Moving Picture Response Time

So "1ms response" may actually mean "1ms persistence"("1ms MPRT") or it could mean "1ms GtG".
Annoyingly, two different legitimate measurement methods.

Some facts:
-- MPRT and GtG are two different legitimate response-time measurements under extremely different measurement criteria.
-- When GtG is below a refresh cycle, it stops improving motion blur very noticeably. Modern GtG (1ms, 2ms, 4ms) often have little differences in motion blur.
-- MPRT is proportionally equal to motion blur thickness for a specific motion speed.
-- MPRT is strobe length on strobed displays.
-- MPRT and persistence means the same thing, terminology-wise, when it comes to a number: as a time-based measurement.
-- MPRT is always at least a refresh cycle long on sample-and-hold (non-strobed)
-- MPRT is typically higher than GtG on sample-and-hold (non-strobed)
-- MPRT always changes everytime you turn on/off strobing.
-- MPRT can be sometimes be much lower than GtG during strobed modes
-- GtG typically stays the same regardless of mode (though overdrive setting will affect this).
-- GtG is unseen by eyes in the black periods of strobing (LCD pixels transitioning in darkness between strobe flashes).

So based this logic, my assumption is LG is using GtG rating during nonstrobed (because it's less than a refresh cycle), and MPRT rating during strobed (which makes full sense).

I agree, I wish manufacturers would be more specific which response rating they use. GtG and MPRT(persistence) are two separate numeric response measurements. One is pixel visibility time, the other is pixel transition time.

Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 16:09
by k2viper
BTRY B 529th FA BN wrote:So this monitor out of the box with no toasty trick or anything, does 1ms MPRT and 1ms GtG ?
Numbers are always a matter of measurement method, but generally YES its damn good and fast out of the box.
A Solid lad wrote:(btw, what the heck is on your avatar pic? )
"Usavich" cartoon hero 8-)

Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 04:56
by k2viper
TFTCentral announced 27GK750F-B review.

Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 08:34
by BTRY B 529th FA BN
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Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 09:28
by k2viper
They announced that they're working on the review (so we can expect it soon). TFTCentral is one of the "big" monitor testers worldwide, doing many detailed tests.

Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 09:32
by BTRY B 529th FA BN
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Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 25 Feb 2018, 05:34
by A Solid lad
k2viper wrote:"Usavich" cartoon hero 8-)
Oh.

:D

Re: LG 27GK750F-B - 240Hz, 27" 1ms Blur reduction, Freesync

Posted: 27 Feb 2018, 01:04
by dogroll
k2viper,

when you did 1582 VT for 144hz strobing, did you change any other resolutions details? Or just VT?