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Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 15 Aug 2021, 02:58
by fluxxr
Thanks uwinho for your answer. What rudimentary test or thing you do to compare one monitor vs the other monitor in terms of input lag? Is it simply just pressing your mouse button for an action on the screen of the msi and doing the same action on the benq and noticing that the msi was a bit faster? Or do you use a more accurate or repeatable test.

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 28 Aug 2021, 00:46
by andryL3
speancer wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 13:39
axaro1 wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 11:33
The 2540K is using the AUO M250HTN018 that suffers from pixel inversion artifacts.
The Q250HTN00 A200 on the XL2546K doesn't suffer from pixel inversion artifacts.
It's worth to mention that I recently had a second unit of XL2546K and this time it was visibly affected by pixel inversion artifacts.
Hi, what does pixel inversion artifacts look like and why should they be avoided?

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 07 Oct 2021, 07:44
by THE BEAST
axaro1 wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 11:33
The 2540K is using the AUO M250HTN018 that suffers from pixel inversion artifacts.
The Q250HTN00 A200 on the XL2546K doesn't suffer from pixel inversion artifacts.
I recently bought the 2540K (Sep. 8th 2021, to be exact) and it says that it is using the Q250HTN00 A200 panel
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Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 07 Oct 2021, 14:58
by axaro1
THE BEAST wrote:
07 Oct 2021, 07:44
axaro1 wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 11:33
The 2540K is using the AUO M250HTN018 that suffers from pixel inversion artifacts.
The Q250HTN00 A200 on the XL2546K doesn't suffer from pixel inversion artifacts.
I recently bought the 2540K (Sep. 8th 2021, to be exact) and it says that it is using the Q250HTN00 A200 panelIMG_20211007_143535.jpg
If the panel has the same backlight you could try the Blurbusters Strobe Utility to see if it can strobe. There is no way to enable it on the reworked OSD.

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 09:56
by THE BEAST
axaro1 wrote:
07 Oct 2021, 14:58
If the panel has the same backlight you could try the Blurbusters Strobe Utility to see if it can strobe. There is no way to enable it on the reworked OSD.
I just tried it and it seems that it does have that

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 11:49
by axaro1
THE BEAST wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 09:56
axaro1 wrote:
07 Oct 2021, 14:58
If the panel has the same backlight you could try the Blurbusters Strobe Utility to see if it can strobe. There is no way to enable it on the reworked OSD.
I just tried it and it seems that it does have that
Gj, you just saved 200$ on the 2546K, 240hz Dyac on a 350$ monitor is honestly as good as it can get, what's up with Benq? Shouldn't the 2546K panel be more expensive? Are they struggling to keep up with production of the 2540K's panels?

Does it actually stay ON after closing the Strobe utility? alternatively it should work with the strobe utility open and closing the motion pursuit ufotest If I remember correctly.

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 05:37
by THE BEAST
axaro1 wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 11:49
Does it actually stay ON after closing the Strobe utility? alternatively it should work with the strobe utility open and closing the motion pursuit ufotest If I remember correctly.
It does. I know this since I had forgot to take it off and used it by mistake for 1 day, in CSGO -.-

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 16 Oct 2021, 09:02
by Nm_kng
THE BEAST wrote:
14 Oct 2021, 05:37
axaro1 wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 11:49
Does it actually stay ON after closing the Strobe utility? alternatively it should work with the strobe utility open and closing the motion pursuit ufotest If I remember correctly.
It does. I know this since I had forgot to take it off and used it by mistake for 1 day, in CSGO -.-
If I may ask, what monitor did you own before getting the XL2540K and how does your old monitor compare to the XL2540K. I have an VG259QM and I’m not satisfied with its motion clarity, I’ve had it for 4 months. I tried OD120 280hz, OD80 240hz, OD100 235hz and I only play on OD100 240hz because it has the sharpest image. Would you recommend the XL2540K?

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 19:40
by tosspek
Boomchakadah wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 16:50
Falkentyne wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:33

In order to check ghosting, you MUST use Standard Mode. The other modes do whacky stuff to the RGBYCM (red, green, blue, yellow, cyan, magenta) color channels (Hue/Saturation). Standard Mode also has Black Equalizer default to 0, which is the correct non processed setting. (NOTE: Older Benq monitors, possibly the Mstar scaler models(?) caused extreme black crush if Black Equalizer was set to 0, thus once again, Standard Mode should be used). Then check your gamma settings to make sure you are at 2.2 gamma. Gamma 5 is the 2.2 point on my XL2746S, but this ma be different for 24" panels. Lower (brighter) gamma levels also affect the ghosting, but not as much as Black Equalizer higher than 0 does. On my XL2746S, EQ=4 shows a large decrease in how the primary and secondary ghost trails look, but this causes unnatural colors due to BEQ doing stuff to the image.

The input lag issue a few people repored is something else entirely. Someone mentioned shots not registering despite being direct headshots (this can only be caused by some sort of monitor side lag) on the XL2546K. I can't replicate this at all on the XL2746S, so I assume the XL2546S is similar.
- I used my XL2546K in standard mode with Black Equalizer on 0 (not only because BEQ is buggy on the XL2546K, but also because I don't like using it in general.)

- The S and K versions have different OSD menus and different factory menus. The OD gain on the K versions doesn't have those numbers and letters. The OD gain can be adjusted from 0 to 15. On my unit, even with AMA off and OD gain on 0, there was still a powdery trail behind the UFO. Unlike a 280Hz IPS ACER I had next to it that had a normal blur trail behind the UFO.
Hi, is it possible that you can tell me your best settings for your main Asus VG258QM 280Hz TN monitor? I play only Apex Legends. I want to buy and test this specific TN panel, but I have no clue for good FPS settings.

btw: are you still happy with your VG258QM? :)

Re: BenQ XL2540K or Asus VG258QM

Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 14:31
by Silliker
tosspek wrote:
15 Nov 2021, 19:40
Boomchakadah wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 16:50
Falkentyne wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:33

In order to check ghosting, you MUST use Standard Mode. The other modes do whacky stuff to the RGBYCM (red, green, blue, yellow, cyan, magenta) color channels (Hue/Saturation). Standard Mode also has Black Equalizer default to 0, which is the correct non processed setting. (NOTE: Older Benq monitors, possibly the Mstar scaler models(?) caused extreme black crush if Black Equalizer was set to 0, thus once again, Standard Mode should be used). Then check your gamma settings to make sure you are at 2.2 gamma. Gamma 5 is the 2.2 point on my XL2746S, but this ma be different for 24" panels. Lower (brighter) gamma levels also affect the ghosting, but not as much as Black Equalizer higher than 0 does. On my XL2746S, EQ=4 shows a large decrease in how the primary and secondary ghost trails look, but this causes unnatural colors due to BEQ doing stuff to the image.

The input lag issue a few people repored is something else entirely. Someone mentioned shots not registering despite being direct headshots (this can only be caused by some sort of monitor side lag) on the XL2546K. I can't replicate this at all on the XL2746S, so I assume the XL2546S is similar.
- I used my XL2546K in standard mode with Black Equalizer on 0 (not only because BEQ is buggy on the XL2546K, but also because I don't like using it in general.)

- The S and K versions have different OSD menus and different factory menus. The OD gain on the K versions doesn't have those numbers and letters. The OD gain can be adjusted from 0 to 15. On my unit, even with AMA off and OD gain on 0, there was still a powdery trail behind the UFO. Unlike a 280Hz IPS ACER I had next to it that had a normal blur trail behind the UFO.
Hi, is it possible that you can tell me your best settings for your main Asus VG258QM 280Hz TN monitor? I play only Apex Legends. I want to buy and test this specific TN panel, but I have no clue for good FPS settings.

btw: are you still happy with your VG258QM? :)
hey man,
I play alot of Apex on this monitor, recently I have been using overclock to 280hz , no Gsync , no ELMB, no in game Vsync (sometime double buffered if I am noticing screen tearing , input lag isn't perceivable if you can push high frames) , cap game FPS at 240 or 278 , OD lvl set to 3 on monitor, usually FPS or Racing color setting with a good amount of vivid pixel which I find helps to spot enemies.
Thank thats about it, feels really responsive with minimal motion blur . I find ELMB makes it too hard to spot enemies and input lag may be perceivable