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Discorz wrote: ↑

02 Mar 2022, 11:39

Reminder!

XG2431 is now second on RTINGS Suggest-a-Monitor list. 5 days left until winner is selected.

Oh what the heck. How did that happen? Maybe i am wrong but wasn't it in first place to win by a good margin?

PiCKiN wrote: ↑

02 Mar 2022, 16:45

Discorz wrote: ↑

02 Mar 2022, 11:39

Reminder!

XG2431 is now second on RTINGS Suggest-a-Monitor list. 5 days left until winner is selected.

Oh what the heck. How did that happen? Maybe i am wrong but wasn't it in first place to win by a good margin?

Sometimes some people in esports have good (allowed) social media drives with, say, their Twitter audience or Facebook audience, to vote up their favourite monitor very fast. With some esports accounts having tens or hundreds of followers, you can imagine a vote surge can happen...

So after getting the XG270, I wanted to try out the XG2431 very much so, especially for the 60Hz inclusion that I was hoping would eventually come to the first Blur Busters approved monitor.

Out of the box settings were very reminiscent of the XG270, and the more minimalist stand and look definitely suit me more than the RGB lighting of the XG270. The menu and navigation of this monitor does leave something to be desired compared to the more premium feel of the XG270, but I shouldn't be poking around there too much after getting settings the way I want.

My preference is for the Normal or Extreme setting, depending on the amount of daylight there is. Initially I was a bit disappointed at the amount of crosstalk in the modes, but the center of the screen was very clear and motion clarity was very good. 60Hz is what I wanted this for with the most new console/PC games and videos are at that refresh rate, and it's a lot easier to drive harder graphics at this refresh rate since I'm CPU bound around 100-120fps in many games.

However, I tried the Blur Busters Strobe Utility to try to clear up some of the crosstalk issues and it's quite a great tool, with the ability to dial in settings. What blew me away though was using the large Vertical Blanking Interval at 60Hz.

I. Am. Stunned. I set my VBI Total to 2200 @ 60Hz and dialed in my Strobe Pulse Width to 20, Overdrive to 5, and Strobe Pulse Phase to 83, and this looks insanely clear motion-wise. There is NO crosstalk! If I were to be the absolute most nitpicky, I can barely see faint (and I'm talking equivalent to CRT Phosphor trails) ghosting on the UFOs at the top and bottom.

I ran my usual test for motion clarity in RE3 Remake's demo, at the stairs in the subway near the posters, and panned the camera around full speed with the controller. Everything was clear. Mainly, both posters remained legible and lights visible in motion on all parts of the screen at the top, middle, and bottom. It's something that I'd only seen on my CRT beforehand. Bonus points for no phosphor trails from panning over the fluorescent lights in a dark room.



The only drawback perhaps is that the strobing can be a bit harsh compared to my CRTs on brighter scenes (or excel spreadsheets) due to the lack of that familiar CRT phosphor decay, but in video watching and games it's hardly noticeable.

Suffice to say, I finally have a replacement for my Compaq MV940 and Gateway-branded VX720 Diamondtron, and something to take the load off of the Pioneer Kuro when I want long gaming sessions without being paranoid about burn-in. With the large VBI, the XG2431's motion clarity makes this basically a widescreen digital CRT monitor.

Now if only there were a way to get this type of VBI working with the consoles without having to capture through my ElGato.

AnalogueInterface wrote: ↑

03 Mar 2022, 04:39

I. Am. Stunned. I set my VBI Total to 2200 @ 60Hz and dialed in my Strobe Pulse Width to 20, Overdrive to 5, and Strobe Pulse Phase to 83, and this looks insanely clear motion-wise. There is NO crosstalk! If I were to be the absolute most nitpicky, I can barely see faint (and I'm talking equivalent to CRT Phosphor trails) ghosting on the UFOs at the top and bottom.

Yeah 60hz single strobe + 240hz scanoutspeed + fast ips = amazing clarity for the whole scren.

been waiting a long time to see peoples reactions to such a monitor. If you can handle low brightness the clarity can go beyond a crt imo. static clarity of 1080p is higher then a crt same with motion resolution depending on mprt set. less defects like geometry warping and like you mentioned phospher decay effects.

Only thing I would suggest you look into is input lag reduction via rtss scanline sync or specialk's latent sync. important to do when using high VT videomodes.

EDIT: forgot to mention you should follow the chiefs guide to make a VT mode with the same scanrate as native max hz. which should be much higher then 2200

AnalogueInterface wrote: ↑

03 Mar 2022, 04:39

Now if only there were a way to get this type of VBI working with the consoles without having to capture through my ElGato.

Yeah native scanrate 60hz devices need scanconversion for a crosstalk reduction. which always means a lag penalty unfortunately. some monitors have internal scan conversion capability (with some added lag)

xg2431 supports native 60hz scanrates which is a good thing for latency. I personally think an option to choose between native scan rate and internal scan conversion via the monitor osd would be a good addition for the next blurbuster certification.

Any news regarding EU availability? Eagerly waiting to upgrade my XG2401 to this beast!!!

elexor wrote: ↑

03 Mar 2022, 07:39

xg2431 supports native 60hz scanrates which is a good thing for latency. I personally think an option to choose between native scan rate and internal scan conversion via the monitor osd would be a good addition for the next blurbuster certification.

This is an extremely difficult thing to do — convincing monitor manufacturers to merely allow unlocked-Hz strobing is a hard enough challenge.

zhero wrote: ↑

23 Feb 2022, 14:35

Is ultra fast overdrive the better one to use over advanced? On youtube i think its recommended highest setting but i think i read somewhere use advanced. Also does the black equalizer help with gamma issues at all, i tried nvidia control panels gamma and the colors became weird. Like white is not white. Also does the brightness setting before strobing affect strobing at all since it gets locked when you turn it on. I think the missing gamma control is the only real negative i can think of after 1 day use.

edit: i used tomshardware color settings and i just tried the recommended settings here on page 77 and it's much better. my white is white again not blueish.

there's updated version of settings in various PureXP modes on page 87.

Which monitor would you recommend for the 120hz Halo infinite? Benq XL2540K or Viewsonic XG2431? (Series X)

How is the strobing on consoles without the blurbusters utility? I'm sorry if it's been shown or asked before. I have the XL2411P and I hope it has less crosstalk than what I have already.