So chief is still continuing to abuse us (electricity input laggers) and not only exiled our forum to siberia but also now has locked the biggest thread. Well i guess this thread sounds simmilar enough and we can continue our pointless ranting about the worlds most mysterious issue that affects many many many gamers (definetly not 1%) lol.
This issue has never been fixed and saying there are millions ways to fix input lag its just so wrong in my opinion. This problem simply outweights any other issue and its the most annoying. Nothing else would even matter if this particular issue didnt exist. Most people here might not even have a clue they have it and are wasting time with useless software tweaks and what not. Idk i just thing its wrong to not prioritise this issue is all. Please dont ban me or delete this thread mr chief.
I won't delete this thread as I don't see any major issue with this thread (unlike others) -- with the exception of posts like yours.
Criticisms like these are uncalled for. User NOH has been banned.
Commentary by people like NOH only makes me closer to deleting the whole forum (and all of its posts retroactively).
So, please, don't. Support hobby-turned-business indies like Blur Busters by not doing this kind of stuff, NOH. It's tough enough running a discussion forum without these additional toxicity against me.
Fixing EMI is a tough problem but it needs to be acknowledged that the problem is so complex that
there's generally a million different unique solutions for a million different users, once mitigated and eliminate the most common causes of interferences as well as their effects. The figurative "causes and fixes piechart" has a few large slices and millions of sub-1% slices.
Yes, there are indeed common fixes -- they definitely work for some people and not for others.
Yes, it is is absolutely true easy fixes to a percentage of EMI issues does exist, but you can't religiously argue that without politely acknowledging all those one-in-million one-offs. The causes of problems by EMI is so astoundingly frustrating when the common fixes never work. It is most certainly possible to customize your own custom EMI fix for your specific situation, but it may or may not be one that doesn't work universally for everyone.
Yes, there exist fixes that may fix a double-digit percentage of people having EMI problems, but there exists EMI problems that requires unique per-individual fixes that don't work for others.
But weaponizing all that in a toxic post against me? Permaban + retroactive delete of all forum posts you made, NOH.
The problem is other people are not being respectful of this sad truth. It's one thing to insisting there is a common universal fix when there just isn't one. But to do so in a fully weaponized way against me? Really? Do you want to go down that path, NOH?
There's no magic wand solution, once you've gotten past the more logical/common EMI fixes -- I've already posted large posts explaining and such and most forum members here agree with them.
So, please -- please be respectful to indies like me. Thank you!
People like NOH is not correctly acknowledging the below (NOH, if you are lurking post-pan, please read the below).
Yes, it is a gigantically frustrating problem, but weaponizing the below piechart reality against me, is just total nonsense.
F1zus wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023, 18:10
Online UPS really reduces the input lag. Many professional players use it. I bought myself an online UPS a few months ago and it removed the input lag by 90%.
If online UPS does not help you, then it is not about electricity. So you have a high level of emi or something else.
This is an excellent fix. It works. It fixes a lot of EMI problems. As does the offgridding technique (running all your electronics -- PC/monitor/router -- off a large lithium battery power station such as Jackery or similar). They are just like large UPS power supplies, except that you can completely unplug from the wall outlet for a few hours. I've talked about this fix often.
But, the thing is, it only has a "1 in X" chance of working for a random individual in this forum having EMI problems.
But it is only one of the larger piechart slices of possible EMI fixes. The sad truth is that there's a million of tiny-sliver slices in the same piechart (millions of microscopically thin slivers) -- EMI fixes that are so unique-fix to unique-users, in the very same "EMI fixes" piechart.
(not exact slice sizes -- there could be more large slices, or fewer large slices, but finding and fixing EMI problem is metaphorically the very infinite piechart problem)
- In other words, there are a few common EMI fixes (but only works works for a percentage of us).
- But millions of unique EMI fixes (that don't work for others).
Vendors successfully try to cover the majority of the possible infinite piechart of EMI problems -- to as many nines as possible -- but you can't hit the 100.
(Extreme example: Supernova league EMI pulse from something bigger than Tsar Bomba. Obviously that's just cherrypicking one of those tiny slivers of EMI causes that no electronics can successfully shield against. But remember, the interference emitted from a working computer is much tinier than interference emitted from a malfunctioning appliance. But they're not alike! Two different malfunctioning CRT televisions or old drying-machine motors emitting interference, all emit very different EMI strengths and patterns from each other. Now imagine the trillions of different EMI/EMF/interference sources all over the planet, even ignoring the solar interference coming from space -- e.g. corona mass ejection has caused problems with computers before)
Yes, it's likely getting worse (becoming less rare), but you can't deny there's both rare and common causes.
Yes, we're likely now losing a few nines because computers are pushing the last vestiges of Moore's Law, ever close to the interference noisefloors etc.
Interference has a lot of mudane and non-mudane causes.
The problem is once we've tried all the common fixes (e.g. top 10 fixes), we're well into cherrypicking from those millions of those tiny slivers of ever-decreasing likelihood of fixes -- a gigantic impossible time drain once you've failed the common fixes.
It's fine and dandy to research if there's more giant-slices. Sure. Like new ways of cleaning up electricity that hits the market, from technology improvements. Sure. It's worth researching. But you cannot deny the fact that the other tiny pieslice slivers exist. Being a denier of the other slices, because you're insisting only on slice #7412, is just plain old-fashioned unscientific forum tinfoilhattery.
One must respect the reality.
One must respect there is no one-size-fixes-all for other people, even if the fix works for you.
Yes, it may fix a percentage of other people if it's one of the common ones (the large pie slices), but that doesn't deny the existence of the other people stuck in those tiny-sliver piechart slices, metaphorically speaking.