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Hello guys, my setup is as follows; CPU: Ryzen 5 5600
GPU: RTX 3060
RAM: 2X16 3600 MHz CL 16

Monitor: ASUS VG259QM
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Pro TKL
Mouse: Logitech G PRO SUPERLIGHT

I am a high elo valorant player. I feel input lag most of the time. To fix this Nvidia Control panel settings, VG259QM settings, in short How my setup achieves lowest latency for Valo. I get between 300 - 500 FPS.

The questions are not specific enough, you can refer to online fps game guides.

It's a good idea to find out what kind of lag it is so we can address it directly...

Is the lag online and on local practice?

Have you done any benchmarks on the system and internet?

Does it happen only when other apps are open?

Kipperii wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 10:34

The questions are not specific enough, you can refer to online fps game guides.

I can tell you anything you need to know. Exactly what I want to ask is how do I reduce my system input lag for Valo? How can I achieve this with BIOS, NVCP and more.

imprecise wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 10:37

It's a good idea to find out what kind of lag it is so we can address it directly...

Is the lag online and on local practice?

Have you done any benchmarks on the system and internet?

Does it happen only when other apps are open?

To answer your questions in order, I do not feel any delay when using Windows normally, but when I enter Valorant, things change. Here are my LatencyMon results.

Here are my internet test results. I don't have any benchmark apps for the system other than LatencyMon My Nvidia Control panel settings are similar to your E sports optimization guide topic. For example, Low Latency Mode is set to Off. At the same time, I made the settings you specified for process lasso. What I feel is that when I press mouse button 1, that bullet comes out late. Another one is that the enemy shoots me milliseconds after peeking.

vguser44 wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 11:37

imprecise wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 10:37

It's a good idea to find out what kind of lag it is so we can address it directly...

Is the lag online and on local practice?

Have you done any benchmarks on the system and internet?

Does it happen only when other apps are open?

To answer your questions in order, I do not feel any delay when using Windows normally, but when I enter Valorant, things change. Here are my LatencyMon results.

Here are my internet test results. I don't have any benchmark apps for the system other than LatencyMon My Nvidia Control panel settings are similar to your E sports optimization guide topic. For example, Low Latency Mode is set to Off. At the same time, I made the settings you specified for process lasso. What I feel is that when I press mouse button 1, that bullet comes out late. Another one is that the enemy shoots me milliseconds after peeking.

I can't see any of the images (yet?)...
It's still important to know if online/offline is different.

Are you running it in fullscreen exclusive?
Any browsers or voice chat set to Above Normal priority?

imprecise wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 12:35

vguser44 wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 11:37

imprecise wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 10:37

It's a good idea to find out what kind of lag it is so we can address it directly...

Is the lag online and on local practice?

Have you done any benchmarks on the system and internet?

Does it happen only when other apps are open?

To answer your questions in order, I do not feel any delay when using Windows normally, but when I enter Valorant, things change. Here are my LatencyMon results.

Here are my internet test results. I don't have any benchmark apps for the system other than LatencyMon My Nvidia Control panel settings are similar to your E sports optimization guide topic. For example, Low Latency Mode is set to Off. At the same time, I made the settings you specified for process lasso. What I feel is that when I press mouse button 1, that bullet comes out late. Another one is that the enemy shoots me milliseconds after peeking.

I can't see any of the images (yet?)...
It's still important to know if online/offline is different.




Are you running it in fullscreen exclusive?
Any browsers or voice chat set to Above Normal priority?

No, all background apps are set to normal.
I run Valorant without disabling Fullscreen optimizations.
You can open the image by right-clicking on "Image" and selecting "Open image in new tab".

vguser44 wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 12:52

imprecise wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 12:35

I can't see any of the images (yet?)...
It's still important to know if online/offline is different.
Are you running it in fullscreen exclusive?
Any browsers or voice chat set to Above Normal priority?

No, all background apps are set to normal.
I run Valorant without disabling Fullscreen optimizations.
You can open the image by right-clicking on "Image" and selecting "Open image in new tab".

I would try fullscreen exclusive and see if that helps. I noticed textures are working better ingame now that I'm using it, so there's probably video data being dropped when using FSO. Input lag is barely improved, but that's because I already optimized before switching.

100/10mbit isn't really ideal, but it should still be ok as long as there are no problems... can you try this test?

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat

Have you tried a different mouse?

imprecise wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 13:06

vguser44 wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 12:52

imprecise wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 12:35

I can't see any of the images (yet?)...
It's still important to know if online/offline is different.
Are you running it in fullscreen exclusive?
Any browsers or voice chat set to Above Normal priority?

No, all background apps are set to normal.
I run Valorant without disabling Fullscreen optimizations.
You can open the image by right-clicking on "Image" and selecting "Open image in new tab".

I would try fullscreen exclusive and see if that helps. I noticed textures are working better ingame now that I'm using it, so there's probably video data being dropped when using FSO. Input lag is barely improved, but that's because I already optimized before switching.

100/10mbit isn't really ideal, but it should still be ok as long as there are no problems... can you try this test?

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat

Have you tried a different mouse?

I don't have much idea about FSO and FSE, I've never tried them anyway. I don't have the opportunity to try a different mouse, I only have G PRO SUPERLIGHT. But there is one thing I know about my mouse: When the charge is 100%, I feel much more performance and low input lag, but if the charge drops to 50% or below, I feel more input lag

Here is the test you want
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbl ... e69e116309

vguser44 wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 13:16

I don't have much idea about FSO and FSE, I've never tried them anyway. I don't have the opportunity to try a different mouse, I only have G PRO SUPERLIGHT. But there is one thing I know about my mouse: When the charge is 100%, I feel much more performance and lag, but if the charge drops to 50% or below, I feel more delayed.

Here is the test you want
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbl ... e69e116309

The mouse could be part of the issue, did you turn off the battery saving function in the software, and power saving in Device Manager? The settings in Device Manager will often turn back on because 1. you changed ports 2. Windows reassigned USB order on startup.

Do you know the polling rate of the mouse and keyboard? Above 1000hz can cause problems, since Windows wasn't designed for it and had to add a patch in Windows 11 for this specific issue.

It looks like the network connection isn't achieving low latency for gaming. I'm guessing the gameplay is mostly lag-free except when other players are nearby, or when you try to take on a fight. You can try some different things to mitigate it on the client side, but it may not fully fix the issue. Here is a recent post about it:

imprecise wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 08:02

Kipperii wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 23:40

imprecise wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 21:23

For anyone who has fiber and also high bufferbloat, it looks like it's being caused by 10G -> 1G buffering. You can somewhat alleviate the issue by using SQM (Cake, fq_codel) but the underlying issue will remain.

The general rule of thumb is that you need 50ms of line-rate output queue buffer, so for for a 10G switch, there should be around 60MB of buffer. This is particularly important if you have a 10G host sending to a 1G host across the WAN. But there are a number of switch design issues that make it hard to quantify exactly how much buffering is actually required.

https://fasterdata.es.net/network-tunin ... ze-issues/

Switches are usually 48 ports, so having a 10G uplink and 40 1G connections will completely saturate the switch under peak times, which leads to buffering and delayed or dropped packets. If you're experiencing this, maybe your ISP will fix it, or maybe you will have to find a better connection.

Some settings that might help on the client side:
Jumbo Frame (MTU 9KB)
Flow Control (Intel network adapter setting)
netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled (Turns off TCP auto-tuning in Windows. Default setting is "normal")

These three settings solve my 70% problem, its so close to finish the input lag. Please tell me if there is more setting like these three.

Check here for more solutions:
https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bl ... Solutions/

It looks like my suggestions above aren't listed in the solutions, as I sourced them elsewhere. The author of this site is an expert on the subject and I would defer to his advice.

Additionally, it appears to be such a widespread issue that changing ISPs may not help.