This Is How I Fixed*(asterik!) My Own Input Lag [Update #3]
Posted: 28 Feb 2024, 05:42
UPDATE #3:
Turns out that TPM's default blocked command list is my problem. Deleted the default blocked command list and now games and system feel like 240Hz and barely any hit-reg issues on Windows 11 Home.
Now I need to get gud again because for 7 years I've had laggy/input delay/hit-reg issues.
5600X
RTX A4000
32GB 3200MHz CL22
980 Pro 2TB
B350
i5 12500H
RTX 3050 Laptop
16GB
SN740 512GB.
GLHF.
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viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13123&start=50#p106450
*Changed title, sorry for the mislead.
Old 3:
Turns out Windows has a "Delay" built into the mouse + keyboard inputs and the cursor, I'm not joking***
***Maybe it isn't? I dunno. I'm still testing the "fix" though. Again this is just my findings. Take it as grain of salt.
Also stuttering came back and that turned out to be Krisp ML/AI feature built into Discord.
Turned off Krisp ML/AI Noise Suppression since it runs on the CPU and eats CPU cycles up (Even runs on my system in the background doing ML/AI stuff when not chatting.)
I'm testing this fix:
GLHF.
PS if someone knows how to dump every key with in "Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel" please post as I wanna see if keys like "network", "internet" etc exist. Cheers.
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Old 2:
Please run a backup and restore point first as this can break installs or make the system unusable.
*Edited to include my actual batch script, to remove none useful information, updated information to make it more clearer and understandable to read and more truthful and removed bonus batch script (will include in comments if asked.)
Manually setting cache didn't fix my input lag for long. However I were on to something with Windows.
I believe Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) gets broken/bugged/etc after Windows, drivers, updates, applications and/or components etc installs.
I ran CMD commands first for testing before I made this batch file to run after boot to reset WMI.
Batch file:
Resetting WMI really fixed the problems I been having for 9 years since upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7 and Windows 10 to 11 and back with input delay, stuttering and lag.
Testing this on Windows 11 and 10 on my main system and low end laptops (i7 3rd Gen/Atom, AMD GPUs and Windows 10/11) and so far it works on everything I tested.
I hope this helps and GLHF.
System (main):
AOC 24G2
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
MSI MPG X570S Carbon WiFi Max
32GB @ 3600 CL16-16-16-16-38
RTX A4000/RTX 3060 12GB
980 Pro NVMe 2TB SSD/256 GB Samsung SATA SSD.
Windows 11/10 Home/Pro/Pro for Workstations.
OLD:
For some reason, ether there's a bug with Windows' HAL or I found a way to brute-force Windows' to use the CPU Cache over the System RAM etc and but setting the Registry Key values in the attachment and following this Power-shell script fixed my input-lag: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13044.
The Registry Keys are related to how Windows detects the amount of CPU Cache ether Reg Key Value or HAL.
I'm using a 5800X3D which has 100-ish Megabytes of Cache so this might not benefit lower CPU Cache amount and I have no other systems to test this on, I can't test it out.
That's all the tweaks I did on a fresh Windows 10 and 11 Home.
I've been playing GTA IV and CS2 and mouse is now 1-1 for me. I'm testing more games as I post this.
Maybe this will help people so GLHF.
Turns out that TPM's default blocked command list is my problem. Deleted the default blocked command list and now games and system feel like 240Hz and barely any hit-reg issues on Windows 11 Home.
Now I need to get gud again because for 7 years I've had laggy/input delay/hit-reg issues.
5600X
RTX A4000
32GB 3200MHz CL22
980 Pro 2TB
B350
i5 12500H
RTX 3050 Laptop
16GB
SN740 512GB.
GLHF.
------------------------
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13123&start=50#p106450
*Changed title, sorry for the mislead.
Old 3:
Turns out Windows has a "Delay" built into the mouse + keyboard inputs and the cursor, I'm not joking***
***Maybe it isn't? I dunno. I'm still testing the "fix" though. Again this is just my findings. Take it as grain of salt.
Also stuttering came back and that turned out to be Krisp ML/AI feature built into Discord.
Turned off Krisp ML/AI Noise Suppression since it runs on the CPU and eats CPU cycles up (Even runs on my system in the background doing ML/AI stuff when not chatting.)
I'm testing this fix:
Code: Select all
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
;;Test fix by foulplay#0 at Discord.
;;Working so far but need more people
;;to test it so I know this
;;isn't useless.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Keyboard]
"KeyboardDelay"="0"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse]
"MouseDelay"="0"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Cursors]
"CursorsDelay"="0"PS if someone knows how to dump every key with in "Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel" please post as I wanna see if keys like "network", "internet" etc exist. Cheers.
----------------------------
Old 2:
Please run a backup and restore point first as this can break installs or make the system unusable.
*Edited to include my actual batch script, to remove none useful information, updated information to make it more clearer and understandable to read and more truthful and removed bonus batch script (will include in comments if asked.)
Manually setting cache didn't fix my input lag for long. However I were on to something with Windows.
I believe Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) gets broken/bugged/etc after Windows, drivers, updates, applications and/or components etc installs.
I ran CMD commands first for testing before I made this batch file to run after boot to reset WMI.
Batch file:
Code: Select all
@echo off
::Stop WMI's service.
net stop winmgmt
::Reset WMI and the service will restart itself.
winmgmt /resetrepository
::Timeout to make sure I know if it has worked.
timeout 10
Testing this on Windows 11 and 10 on my main system and low end laptops (i7 3rd Gen/Atom, AMD GPUs and Windows 10/11) and so far it works on everything I tested.
I hope this helps and GLHF.
System (main):
AOC 24G2
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
MSI MPG X570S Carbon WiFi Max
32GB @ 3600 CL16-16-16-16-38
RTX A4000/RTX 3060 12GB
980 Pro NVMe 2TB SSD/256 GB Samsung SATA SSD.
Windows 11/10 Home/Pro/Pro for Workstations.
OLD:
For some reason, ether there's a bug with Windows' HAL or I found a way to brute-force Windows' to use the CPU Cache over the System RAM etc and but setting the Registry Key values in the attachment and following this Power-shell script fixed my input-lag: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13044.
The Registry Keys are related to how Windows detects the amount of CPU Cache ether Reg Key Value or HAL.
I'm using a 5800X3D which has 100-ish Megabytes of Cache so this might not benefit lower CPU Cache amount and I have no other systems to test this on, I can't test it out.
That's all the tweaks I did on a fresh Windows 10 and 11 Home.
I've been playing GTA IV and CS2 and mouse is now 1-1 for me. I'm testing more games as I post this.
Maybe this will help people so GLHF.