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Weird mousetester result
Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 03:54
by Inputlucker
After i bought an LG gr95qeb, which is 240 hz oled panel, my mousetester graph looks like that. It was the same with 9700kf, now with 7800x3d. But with 14700kf there was no those arrows every 1500ms, line was straight between 998-1002. This happens only with adaptive sync turned on. On 144 hz refresh rate with adaptive sync turned on issue seems less visible. I tried changing dp cables, hdmi 2.1, tweaking monitor settings, different nvidia drivers. C states disable, only c0 and c1. Also cpu usb port in mousetester looks worse than chipset one. Please share your toughts, what might be causing this behavior.
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 06 Sep 2024, 16:12
by internetexplorer4
Inputlucker wrote: ↑04 Sep 2024, 03:54
After i bought an LG gr95qeb, which is 240 hz oled panel, my mousetester graph looks like that. It was the same with 9700kf, now with 7800x3d. But with 14700kf there was no those arrows every 1500ms, line was straight between 998-1002. This happens only with adaptive sync turned on. On 144 hz refresh rate with adaptive sync turned on issue seems less visible. I tried changing dp cables, hdmi 2.1, tweaking monitor settings, different nvidia drivers. C states disable, only c0 and c1. Also cpu usb port in mousetester looks worse than chipset one. Please share your toughts, what might be causing this behavior.
hey, sorry for replying just to ask you a favor but if you have the chance can you test this on another pc with another mouse? I'm asking because I get this same exact graph regardless the pc, the mouse and the place, I tried 5 different pcs, 3 different places, 4 different mouses and got this same result, so I want to see if this would also happen with people that have "good" graphs, I know your graph is having that weird behavior but besides that, the frequency looks pretty stable, so if you get that same good graph on other pcs, that info would help me a lot
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Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 06 Sep 2024, 16:45
by timecard
Mousetester by default locks to 2 specific cores, what you're seeing is likely the impacts of reprioritization of resources due to other processes/drivers on those cores. I'm assuming if you change the mousetester affinity (through task manager) you'll get other interferences.
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 07 Sep 2024, 03:46
by Slender
timecard wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024, 16:45
Mousetester by default locks to 2 specific cores, what you're seeing is likely the impacts of reprioritization of resources due to other processes/drivers on those cores. I'm assuming if you change the mousetester affinity (through task manager) you'll get other interferences.
no, it tested. all cores same.
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 07 Sep 2024, 03:49
by Slender
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024, 16:12
Inputlucker wrote: ↑04 Sep 2024, 03:54
After i bought an LG gr95qeb, which is 240 hz oled panel, my mousetester graph looks like that. It was the same with 9700kf, now with 7800x3d. But with 14700kf there was no those arrows every 1500ms, line was straight between 998-1002. This happens only with adaptive sync turned on. On 144 hz refresh rate with adaptive sync turned on issue seems less visible. I tried changing dp cables, hdmi 2.1, tweaking monitor settings, different nvidia drivers. C states disable, only c0 and c1. Also cpu usb port in mousetester looks worse than chipset one. Please share your toughts, what might be causing this behavior.
hey, sorry for replying just to ask you a favor but if you have the chance can you test this on another pc with another mouse? I'm asking because I get this same exact graph regardless the pc, the mouse and the place, I tried 5 different pcs, 3 different places, 4 different mouses and got this same result, so I want to see if this would also happen with people that have "good" graphs, I know your graph is having that weird behavior but besides that, the frequency looks pretty stable, so if you get that same good graph on other pcs, that info would help me a lot
mouse tester 1.5 v2.png
graph op vs yours if diffinitelly different.
op have stable delta 995-1005 with repeated in same ms peaks ( i think from gpu, need disable gpu driver and retest), but your graphs is completely broken. You have 800-1200 delta with drops to 500hz.
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 08 Sep 2024, 08:06
by Inputlucker
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024, 16:12
Inputlucker wrote: ↑04 Sep 2024, 03:54
After i bought an LG gr95qeb, which is 240 hz oled panel, my mousetester graph looks like that. It was the same with 9700kf, now with 7800x3d. But with 14700kf there was no those arrows every 1500ms, line was straight between 998-1002. This happens only with adaptive sync turned on. On 144 hz refresh rate with adaptive sync turned on issue seems less visible. I tried changing dp cables, hdmi 2.1, tweaking monitor settings, different nvidia drivers. C states disable, only c0 and c1. Also cpu usb port in mousetester looks worse than chipset one. Please share your toughts, what might be causing this behavior.
hey, sorry for replying just to ask you a favor but if you have the chance can you test this on another pc with another mouse? I'm asking because I get this same exact graph regardless the pc, the mouse and the place, I tried 5 different pcs, 3 different places, 4 different mouses and got this same result, so I want to see if this would also happen with people that have "good" graphs, I know your graph is having that weird behavior but besides that, the frequency looks pretty stable, so if you get that same good graph on other pcs, that info would help me a lot
mouse tester 1.5 v2.png
Hi, sorry, now i can't test it on another pc, cause i sold all pc parts from 9700kf and 14700kf builds. But, i remember that after some minor tweaking in bios and OS i get straight enough line with deviation of 20-100 mhz, mostly between 998-1002 or 995-1005. Now on AMD build i achieve almost the same result, the cause of those weird arrows on my previous graph was nvidia drivers (i have 3070ti). Newer driver past 556.12 solve that issue some how, now i got graph very similar to previous Intel builds. Its on win11.
What cpu do you have and what OS version? There are some settings, which affect the polling rate: disable all c states except c0 and c1(on Intel you should enable c state control then disable c1e and limit c states to c0 and c1, on new gen Intel cpus you can also disable hyperthreading of core 0, choose high perf. power plan in OS, then disable core parking (type how to disable core parking regedit on YouTube or use bitsum utility), turn off all autoruns, you should use mousetester with everything closed, even discord or steam can affect your graph), also try to connect your mouse with cable, if you have wireless one and turn on perfomance or high power mode in mouse software if you have this option (my wlmouse mini have it). That should be enough to get result similar to mine.
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 08 Sep 2024, 08:10
by Inputlucker
Slender wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024, 03:49
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024, 16:12
Inputlucker wrote: ↑04 Sep 2024, 03:54
After i bought an LG gr95qeb, which is 240 hz oled panel, my mousetester graph looks like that. It was the same with 9700kf, now with 7800x3d. But with 14700kf there was no those arrows every 1500ms, line was straight between 998-1002. This happens only with adaptive sync turned on. On 144 hz refresh rate with adaptive sync turned on issue seems less visible. I tried changing dp cables, hdmi 2.1, tweaking monitor settings, different nvidia drivers. C states disable, only c0 and c1. Also cpu usb port in mousetester looks worse than chipset one. Please share your toughts, what might be causing this behavior.
hey, sorry for replying just to ask you a favor but if you have the chance can you test this on another pc with another mouse? I'm asking because I get this same exact graph regardless the pc, the mouse and the place, I tried 5 different pcs, 3 different places, 4 different mouses and got this same result, so I want to see if this would also happen with people that have "good" graphs, I know your graph is having that weird behavior but besides that, the frequency looks pretty stable, so if you get that same good graph on other pcs, that info would help me a lot
mouse tester 1.5 v2.png
graph op vs yours if diffinitelly different.
op have stable delta 990-1010 with repeated in same ms peaks ( i think from gpu, need disable gpu driver and retest), but your graphs ia completely broken. You have 800-1200 delta with drops to 500hz.
Yes, you were right, previously i used 537.58 driver and earlier, which were the cause of those arrow lines on my graph. Drivers past 556.12 solved that. But on Intel 14700kf even 537.58 behaves normal.
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 08 Sep 2024, 20:14
by internetexplorer4
Inputlucker wrote: ↑08 Sep 2024, 08:06
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024, 16:12
Inputlucker wrote: ↑04 Sep 2024, 03:54
After i bought an LG gr95qeb, which is 240 hz oled panel, my mousetester graph looks like that. It was the same with 9700kf, now with 7800x3d. But with 14700kf there was no those arrows every 1500ms, line was straight between 998-1002. This happens only with adaptive sync turned on. On 144 hz refresh rate with adaptive sync turned on issue seems less visible. I tried changing dp cables, hdmi 2.1, tweaking monitor settings, different nvidia drivers. C states disable, only c0 and c1. Also cpu usb port in mousetester looks worse than chipset one. Please share your toughts, what might be causing this behavior.
hey, sorry for replying just to ask you a favor but if you have the chance can you test this on another pc with another mouse? I'm asking because I get this same exact graph regardless the pc, the mouse and the place, I tried 5 different pcs, 3 different places, 4 different mouses and got this same result, so I want to see if this would also happen with people that have "good" graphs, I know your graph is having that weird behavior but besides that, the frequency looks pretty stable, so if you get that same good graph on other pcs, that info would help me a lot
mouse tester 1.5 v2.png
Hi, sorry, now i can't test it on another pc, cause i sold all pc parts from 9700kf and 14700kf builds. But, i remember that after some minor tweaking in bios and OS i get straight enough line with deviation of 20-100 mhz, mostly between 998-1002 or 995-1005. Now on AMD build i achieve almost the same result, the cause of those weird arrows on my previous graph was nvidia drivers (i have 3070ti). Newer driver past 556.12 solve that issue some how, now i got graph very similar to previous Intel builds. Its on win11.
What cpu do you have and what OS version? There are some settings, which affect the polling rate: disable all c states except c0 and c1(on Intel you should enable c state control then disable c1e and limit c states to c0 and c1, on new gen Intel cpus you can also disable hyperthreading of core 0, choose high perf. power plan in OS, then disable core parking (type how to disable core parking regedit on YouTube or use bitsum utility), turn off all autoruns, you should use mousetester with everything closed, even discord or steam can affect your graph), also try to connect your mouse with cable, if you have wireless one and turn on perfomance or high power mode in mouse software if you have this option (my wlmouse mini have it). That should be enough to get result similar to mine.
I see, but before those tweaks and changes you did how bad was your graph? it was like mine or something similar? or it was more like a good graph too? the thing is that for me, like I said in my other reply, I get the same exact graph on different pcs with completely different specs, different OS and also with different mouses, so I really would like to know if someone with good graph like you, would have the same thing happening of getting the same kind of graph on different pcs
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 06 Nov 2024, 21:36
by St1cky
Inputlucker wrote: ↑08 Sep 2024, 08:10
Slender wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024, 03:49
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024, 16:12
Inputlucker wrote: ↑04 Sep 2024, 03:54
After i bought an LG gr95qeb, which is 240 hz oled panel, my mousetester graph looks like that. It was the same with 9700kf, now with 7800x3d. But with 14700kf there was no those arrows every 1500ms, line was straight between 998-1002. This happens only with adaptive sync turned on. On 144 hz refresh rate with adaptive sync turned on issue seems less visible. I tried changing dp cables, hdmi 2.1, tweaking monitor settings, different nvidia drivers. C states disable, only c0 and c1. Also cpu usb port in mousetester looks worse than chipset one. Please share your toughts, what might be causing this behavior.
hey, sorry for replying just to ask you a favor but if you have the chance can you test this on another pc with another mouse? I'm asking because I get this same exact graph regardless the pc, the mouse and the place, I tried 5 different pcs, 3 different places, 4 different mouses and got this same result, so I want to see if this would also happen with people that have "good" graphs, I know your graph is having that weird behavior but besides that, the frequency looks pretty stable, so if you get that same good graph on other pcs, that info would help me a lot
mouse tester 1.5 v2.png
graph op vs yours if diffinitelly different.
op have stable delta 990-1010 with repeated in same ms peaks ( i think from gpu, need disable gpu driver and retest), but your graphs ia completely broken. You have 800-1200 delta with drops to 500hz.
Yes, you were right, previously i used 537.58 driver and earlier, which were the cause of those arrow lines on my graph. Drivers past 556.12 solved that. But on Intel 14700kf even 537.58 behaves normal.
Looks like its not fixed on newest driver for me.
566.03-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql
9700k
1070
Re: Weird mousetester result
Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 05:42
by Inputlucker
St1cky wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 21:36
Inputlucker wrote: ↑08 Sep 2024, 08:10
Slender wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024, 03:49
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024, 16:12
hey, sorry for replying just to ask you a favor but if you have the chance can you test this on another pc with another mouse? I'm asking because I get this same exact graph regardless the pc, the mouse and the place, I tried 5 different pcs, 3 different places, 4 different mouses and got this same result, so I want to see if this would also happen with people that have "good" graphs, I know your graph is having that weird behavior but besides that, the frequency looks pretty stable, so if you get that same good graph on other pcs, that info would help me a lot
mouse tester 1.5 v2.png
graph op vs yours if diffinitelly different.
op have stable delta 990-1010 with repeated in same ms peaks ( i think from gpu, need disable gpu driver and retest), but your graphs ia completely broken. You have 800-1200 delta with drops to 500hz.
Yes, you were right, previously i used 537.58 driver and earlier, which were the cause of those arrow lines on my graph. Drivers past 556.12 solved that. But on Intel 14700kf even 537.58 behaves normal.
Looks like its not fixed on newest driver for me.
566.03-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql
9700k
1070
Hi there and sorry for my English.
My result now broken too no matter which driver i use, so the culprit maybe in Windows itself, or in both Windows and nvidia drivers. But, i think it didnt matter too much having straight line, i have laptop with 11400f and 3050ti which had to work perfectly when i was at my work (there was fiber 100 mb connection, i use wifi, and outlets have no grounding), mousetester result btw was even worse than yours. And at my house i cant play the same on this laptop and even on my 2k $ p with oled 240 hz panel, so i conclude that the issue in electricity line or my connection 800mb/s fiber. In night time around 3 a. m. after fresh Windows reinstalled my Pubg gameplay is perfect, cs 2 deathmath - almost every hit registeres even if i should miss, player model is very light, actions perform very responsive. I tested my pc with monitor in my friends houses - in first house there was instant improvement, in second house - almost the same situation as in my house.