Another SCEWIN post

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Hyote
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Another SCEWIN post

Post by Hyote » 17 Oct 2024, 17:34

I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.

Reviving this for another setting: DMA Enable
There are 3 of these on my system and disabling them resulted in my mouse staying consistent for hours now which never happened before.

Some more settings I found along the way:
Fia Programming - Disabled
Titan Ridge Workaround - Disabled
Windows 10 Thunderbolt Support - Disabled
TPM 1.2 Deactivate - Enabled
S0ix Override Settings - No Change
PCH TH Mem Buffer Size 0 - None/OS
Next Boot after AC Power Loss - Normal Boot
ARI Forwarding - Enable
USB 2.0 Controller Mode - FullSpeed
XHCI Legacy Support - Disabled (peripherals not detected on boot, reenable to get into BIOS)
Legacy Mode - Enabled
GateA20 Active - Always
TPM2.0 UEFI Spec Version - TCG_1_2
Power Phase Response - Ultra fast
Onboard LED - Disabled
DMA Enable - Disabled
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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by themagic » 17 Oct 2024, 18:02

Hyote wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 17:34
I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.

Scewin useless my friend...total useless. Stop it.

You sure that it is Scewin where you make change and after reboot or shutdown ? what really gives the effect of better feeling ? the reboot or the scewin settings ? that the thing you need to figure out first...

It's same like with Bios where you go and change some random thing and after you feel some better mouse movement or some another improvents on desktop :lol:


all this hidden bios settings are useless....

some people even moded there bios just to unlock these all setting for rfi and against emi and bullshit ...and at the end nothing help rly.

ahead
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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by ahead » 17 Oct 2024, 21:08

We do not appreciate it when someone refers to our solutions as useless or a placebo. Admin, please ban this person, as this behavior is unacceptable.

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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by Hyote » 18 Oct 2024, 01:54

themagic wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 18:02
Hyote wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 17:34
I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.

Scewin useless my friend...total useless. Stop it.

You sure that it is Scewin where you make change and after reboot or shutdown ? what really gives the effect of better feeling ? the reboot or the scewin settings ? that the thing you need to figure out first...

It's same like with Bios where you go and change some random thing and after you feel some better mouse movement or some another improvents on desktop :lol:


all this hidden bios settings are useless....

some people even moded there bios just to unlock these all setting for rfi and against emi and bullshit ...and at the end nothing help rly.
I only made this post because this is an important setting. You should be using USB 2 ports for your mouse and keyboard because those have lower latency. This taken to another level, as you can cut out all the useless bandwidth.

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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by themagic » 18 Oct 2024, 07:22

Hyote wrote:
18 Oct 2024, 01:54
themagic wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 18:02
Hyote wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 17:34
I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.

Scewin useless my friend...total useless. Stop it.

You sure that it is Scewin where you make change and after reboot or shutdown ? what really gives the effect of better feeling ? the reboot or the scewin settings ? that the thing you need to figure out first...

It's same like with Bios where you go and change some random thing and after you feel some better mouse movement or some another improvents on desktop :lol:


all this hidden bios settings are useless....

some people even moded there bios just to unlock these all setting for rfi and against emi and bullshit ...and at the end nothing help rly.
I only made this post because this is an important setting. You should be using USB 2 ports for your mouse and keyboard because those have lower latency. This taken to another level, as you can cut out all the useless bandwidth.
maybe...

just telling my experience with scewin and it makes zero difference for me.


but i know this setting from older bioses motherboards where don't even scewin needed and this option already exist in bios there under USB...

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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by samzor » 18 Oct 2024, 08:56

Hyote wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 17:34
I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.
Wondering why lowering the speed of the controller will remove latency ?
The more speed you have the lower the latency is, no ?

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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by Hyote » 18 Oct 2024, 10:07

samzor wrote:
18 Oct 2024, 08:56
Hyote wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 17:34
I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.
Wondering why lowering the speed of the controller will remove latency ?
The more speed you have the lower the latency is, no ?
I can't answer this in a technically proper way so I'll just use my own words. You need much less bandwidth for your devices so having more won't help with latency but can cause more inconsistency. Also I didn't make the post because I experienced some kind of mouse heaviness fix but because this is one setting that has a positive effect in theory.

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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by ablemor » 18 Oct 2024, 11:22

I think when something works for the first time, it’s worth waiting a few days before making a post, because everything can affect input lag.

Hyote
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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by Hyote » 13 Jan 2025, 14:24

Hyote wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 17:34
I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.

Reviving this for another setting: DMA Enable
There are 3 of these on my system and disabling them resulted in my mouse staying consistent for hours now which never happened before.

Some more settings I found along the way:
Fia Programming - Disabled
Titan Ridge Workaround - Disabled
Windows 10 Thunderbolt Support - Disabled
TPM 1.2 Deactivate - Enabled
S0ix Override Settings - No Change
PCH TH Mem Buffer Size 0 - None/OS
Next Boot after AC Power Loss - Normal Boot
ARI Forwarding - Enable
USB 2.0 Controller Mode - FullSpeed
XHCI Legacy Support - Disabled (peripherals not detected on boot, reenable to get into BIOS)
Legacy Mode - Enabled
GateA20 Active - Always
TPM2.0 UEFI Spec Version - TCG_1_2
Power Phase Response - Ultra fast
Onboard LED - Disabled
DMA Enable - Disabled
Added more settings to try.

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Re: Another SCEWIN post

Post by agendarsky » 14 Jan 2025, 01:56

Hyote wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 17:34
I overlooked this setting in SCEWIN until now but today I set the entry called "USB 2 Controller Speed" to FullSpeed instead of HiSpeed. HiSpeed is 480 Mbps, FullSpeed is 12. Even with a 8000 Hz mouse, the input is much tighter and natural.

Reviving this for another setting: DMA Enable
There are 3 of these on my system and disabling them resulted in my mouse staying consistent for hours now which never happened before.

Some more settings I found along the way:
Fia Programming - Disabled
Titan Ridge Workaround - Disabled
Windows 10 Thunderbolt Support - Disabled
TPM 1.2 Deactivate - Enabled
S0ix Override Settings - No Change
PCH TH Mem Buffer Size 0 - None/OS
Next Boot after AC Power Loss - Normal Boot
ARI Forwarding - Enable
USB 2.0 Controller Mode - FullSpeed
XHCI Legacy Support - Disabled (peripherals not detected on boot, reenable to get into BIOS)
Legacy Mode - Enabled
GateA20 Active - Always
TPM2.0 UEFI Spec Version - TCG_1_2
Power Phase Response - Ultra fast
Onboard LED - Disabled
DMA Enable - Disabled
i just noticed this thread after i created one about 12mbps usb 2.0 mode, i swear i didnt read this thread until now... its a thing

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