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I can write a book on this sick problem at this point but I will try to keep this post precise and to the point and factual.
I live in a tier 2 city in India.
I have been facing all the problems mentioned in the title since moving into my house when I was 12 years old in 2008.
Since then I grew up playing at internet cafes till 2020 until covid, I reached the highest ranks in DOTA 2,FIFA,Counter Strike in that period, when i started playing from my "sick" house since 2020 I got hampered with this desync, degraded visuals,colours not vibrant like the gaming zones etc.

I built 5 different mid to high tier systems which could crush any competitive game very easily in every year since 2020,no luck every single time,I installed Multiple earth rods and what not.(Which ended up in having basically no real change in the pc and monitor behaviour at all)
After constant battle with no amends i started discussing this issue every day with chatgpt for like two months.

What ended up happening was in India there is a common misconceptions regarding an ideal Earthing system in the localities.
Apparently my house was suffering from an issue called floating earth/neutral, where the new rods i had installed were not bonded with neutral at the main db panel of my house, here in India people have a misconception that when we measure the voltage between neutral and earth any value up till 10v is fine, which is not the case unfortunately.

So basically If you have an Earth rod installed at your premises without it being bonded to the neutral only once at your DB box with proper bus bars setup,No matter how perfect your earth rod installation is,your earth is gonna float, so your pc if connected to that ground rod or any other will get constant fluctuations throughout the day depending upon the voltage and leakage in your neutral wire (which should be ideally between 0-2v in a proper bonded system). What was happening was that my unbonded/floating earth had no reference earth because it wasn't bonded with the neutral, You can troubleshoot this topic much better on chatgpt or gemini (try searching how to fix floating earth) if you have similar incompetent electrical installation at your home,it is pretty common in INDIA in older homes it's pretty commonly ignored,these practises. Houses built after 2018 if made acc to the proper electrical codes are often provided with this neutral and earth bonding at the panel, so every metal chassis of every equipment is tied to 0 potential, thus resulting in proper intended operation of the equipment.

SO to sum it up, My earth/neutral was floating at my house which was built in 2008, I hired an electrician to install proper bus bars for neutral and earth connections in my house and thus got my earth bonded with the neutral and my PC,monitor,playstation are running flawlessly ever since, games don't feel like running abnormally fast, ferrari peaks are very rare, increased reaction times,it feels like a miracle for my pc at my home to work as it should.

Sorry if my sentences confused you to bits as english is not my native language, now I understand that you might be living in a western country with a different earthing system like the TT system or TN-S systems, maybe you can look into it acc to your region and try to find the abnormalities here and there. I understand you could be living in a place where all these issues are taken care of still you are facing problems,I urge you to keep trying to troubleshoot with any ai engines as it was pretty fruitful in my case as I had no knowledge about this subject before.
IT IS NOT THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION to this annoying problem, but it was applicable in my case where standard practises are not sincerely performed all the time.

Thank you.

How long has it been working flawlessly for ?

Sorry for late reply, haven't been around this forum after fixing my issues.
It's been well over a month and I have pretty consistent,amazing experience playing my games now.
As soon as the proper bonding was done at my main db box of the house, the mouse floating,the abnormal frame pacing,desync has basically disappeared. I would like to add that after bonding the neutral improvements were instant but after i replugged every power cable on the motherboard for cpu gpu mobo ram sticks reseated, there was a big improvement in mouse accuracy and clicking, maybe the power cables or components remember their old grounding state or something like that until fully unplugged and replugged or reseated.

eclipse512 wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2025, 00:16

Sorry for late reply, haven't been around this forum after fixing my issues.
It's been well over a month and I have pretty consistent,amazing experience playing my games now.
As soon as the proper bonding was done at my main db box of the house, the mouse floating,the abnormal frame pacing,desync has basically disappeared. I would like to add that after bonding the neutral improvements were instant but after i replugged every power cable on the motherboard for cpu gpu mobo ram sticks reseated, there was a big improvement in mouse accuracy and clicking, maybe the power cables or components remember their old grounding state or something like that until fully unplugged and replugged or reseated.

That makes sense. Right now, the current not going back down the neutral is the root cause of our problems. But why would you connect the ground to the neutral? Basically, your neutral is the ground, and when you connect one ground to another, you're just taking a different path for the current. Basically, the current is going into the ground a different way.

Slender wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2025, 17:27

eclipse512 wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2025, 00:16

Sorry for late reply, haven't been around this forum after fixing my issues.
It's been well over a month and I have pretty consistent,amazing experience playing my games now.
As soon as the proper bonding was done at my main db box of the house, the mouse floating,the abnormal frame pacing,desync has basically disappeared. I would like to add that after bonding the neutral improvements were instant but after i replugged every power cable on the motherboard for cpu gpu mobo ram sticks reseated, there was a big improvement in mouse accuracy and clicking, maybe the power cables or components remember their old grounding state or something like that until fully unplugged and replugged or reseated.

That makes sense. Right now, the current not going back down the neutral is the root cause of our problems. But why would you connect the ground to the neutral? Basically, your neutral is the ground, and when you connect one ground to another, you're just taking a different path for the current. Basically, the current is going into the ground a different way.

You are spot on about neutral being the ground but that neutral also has all the return current going back to the source that is the supply/transformer which includes lots of noise,emi,harmonics from basically every electronic in the household and sometimes even our neighbouring houses.

The purpose of bonding another ground wire with neutral at our premises only once at the main panel is to provide a path for that noise to drain away into earth, its only role is to be a path into ground for the fault,noise in the neutral. If the neutral path is compromised or floating relative to true earth,as if the neutral that was grounded at the transformer, the actual grounding rod pit at the transformer is not maintained or else has very high resistance then part of the return current might seek alternate routes that is into our sensitive electronics power supplies and so on and create all types of havocs.
I mean there are million of houses here in India without a proper Neutral bonded and they have no issues regardless, it is the sensitive appliances for examples are gaming rigs,audio setups,medical machinery that suffer and only people notice it who are sensitive to noticing such abnormality, people who have never experinced clean environment often like to shrug it off or don't even pay attention.

That's all that i can fanthom for this bizzare issue, you can put your comment as a prompt with chatgpt and get further clarity on this subject much better always.

eclipse512 wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 06:49

Slender wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2025, 17:27

eclipse512 wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2025, 00:16

Sorry for late reply, haven't been around this forum after fixing my issues.
It's been well over a month and I have pretty consistent,amazing experience playing my games now.
As soon as the proper bonding was done at my main db box of the house, the mouse floating,the abnormal frame pacing,desync has basically disappeared. I would like to add that after bonding the neutral improvements were instant but after i replugged every power cable on the motherboard for cpu gpu mobo ram sticks reseated, there was a big improvement in mouse accuracy and clicking, maybe the power cables or components remember their old grounding state or something like that until fully unplugged and replugged or reseated.

That makes sense. Right now, the current not going back down the neutral is the root cause of our problems. But why would you connect the ground to the neutral? Basically, your neutral is the ground, and when you connect one ground to another, you're just taking a different path for the current. Basically, the current is going into the ground a different way.

You are spot on about neutral being the ground but that neutral also has all the return current going back to the source that is the supply/transformer which includes lots of noise,emi,harmonics from basically every electronic in the household and sometimes even our neighbouring houses.

The purpose of bonding another ground wire with neutral at our premises only once at the main panel is to provide a path for that noise to drain away into earth, its only role is to be a path into ground for the fault,noise in the neutral. If the neutral path is compromised or floating relative to true earth,as if the neutral that was grounded at the transformer, the actual grounding rod pit at the transformer is not maintained or else has very high resistance then part of the return current might seek alternate routes that is into our sensitive electronics power supplies and so on and create all types of havocs.
I mean there are million of houses here in India without a proper Neutral bonded and they have no issues regardless, it is the sensitive appliances for examples are gaming rigs,audio setups,medical machinery that suffer and only people notice it who are sensitive to noticing such abnormality, people who have never experinced clean environment often like to shrug it off or don't even pay attention.

That's all that i can fanthom for this bizzare issue, you can put your comment as a prompt with chatgpt and get further clarity on this subject much better always.

yes, but your grounding should have worked the other way. Your ground must be connected directly to your PC case. In this case, all the "dirt" from the PC case should go into the ground. Did you do that? If you did this and it had no effect, then the reason is different. Connecting the ground to one neutral bus only means that the current is now going into your ground, not into the transformer's ground (I bet your electricity bills are lower). The current always follows the path of lower resistance, it cannot divide itself and go along two paths at once. You can take your external ground and use it as a neutral only for your pc setup.

what you are talking about (reverse currents) usually occur in a TN-C system, where the protective neutral (mistakenly called ground) returns dirt to you from the neutral in double time.

ok, it can be another way.
if you system have only 2 or 3 phase (130v), without neutral, second or both phase can use for output current like neutral. In that case ground neutral can make sense.
exaple: you system is 3 phase 130v, both phase contact give you 230v. You made your good ground, connect it to your socet or pc, and you get 130v instead of 230v. In that case, ground 1 of your 3 phase can make true 230v with ext ground.

actually in india, the ground and neutral are already bonded at the transformer side, so there is no need to bond them again at the main panel in the house. if you do that once again at the house, its gonna be a problem.

This is all nonsense. This would all matter if our computers were analog, but the reality is different. You don't have to worry about power quality, the problem will come when the voltage is too low and your PC just won't turn on. Even in spite of all the facts, people have tested perfect system grounding and it hasn't solved their problem.