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My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 23 May 2025, 15:32
by v1rtuz
Hi everyone, I’ve also run into the problem with new IPS monitors.
For 7 years, I used an LG 24MP59G 75Hz monitor and never had any issues reading text or playing FPS games. I wanted to try out the new panel technologies, so I bought an Asus ROG Strix XG259CMS.
I'm using the default RGB preset, G-Sync, and 300Hz — and as I write this message, my eyes are already feeling strained.
I’ve tried different brightness and contrast settings, lowered and raised the refresh rate, turned new features on and off — nothing helped.
I placed both monitors side by side, connected to my 4060 Ti, and matched the color settings on the new monitor to those of the old one — but that still didn’t solve the eye strain issue.
What could be the cause?
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 26 May 2025, 16:22
by kyube
v1rtuz wrote: ↑23 May 2025, 15:32
Hi everyone, I’ve also run into the problem with new IPS monitors.
For 7 years, I used an LG 24MP59G 75Hz monitor and never had any issues reading text or playing FPS games. I wanted to try out the new panel technologies, so I bought an Asus ROG Strix XG259CMS.
I'm using the default RGB preset, G-Sync, and 300Hz — and as I write this message, my eyes are already feeling strained.
I’ve tried different brightness and contrast settings, lowered and raised the refresh rate, turned new features on and off — nothing helped.
I placed both monitors side by side, connected to my 4060 Ti, and matched the color settings on the new monitor to those of the old one — but that still didn’t solve the eye strain issue.
What could be the cause?
Greetings,
Have you tried disabling VRR on the Asus? Maybe you are not fond of the dithering algorithm employed by the Asus display.
Have you tried messing with the color settings in the Nvidia Control Panel?
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 27 May 2025, 05:39
by v1rtuz
I tried disabling VRR - nothing. I tried changing different modes in the Nvidia panel 8 bit, 10 bit (8 bit + FRS). Limited color range and full 0-255 - it didn't work for me.
How do I know if the dithering algorithm is completely off?
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 27 May 2025, 09:41
by kyube
v1rtuz wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 05:39
How do I know if the dithering algorithm is completely off?
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
Take a look at the paragraph located close to the footer of the website.
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 27 May 2025, 12:14
by v1rtuz
kyube wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 09:41
v1rtuz wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 05:39
How do I know if the dithering algorithm is completely off?
Take a look at the paragraph located close to the footer of the website.
I read the forum and downloaded the ColorControl program. I tried turning Dithering on and off, but to my eye there is no change.
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 30 May 2025, 10:00
by kyube
v1rtuz wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 12:14
I read the forum and downloaded the ColorControl program. I tried turning Dithering on and off, but to my eye there is no change.
I believe those app SW utiltiies which are claimed to "turn off dithering" don't fundamentally do anything.
I'm afraid that I cannot think of another reason as to why your new display may cause you eye strain, as that particular model does not have many deeper reviews about it (such as whether there's light flicker present during particular transitions, )
It seems to sport a YAG phosphor (classic) WLED backlight, so pushing the blame on the wide-color gamut is out of the question.
Here are a few reviews:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wU411S7tY/ (@03:15, 04:29 shows the SPD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdSdijAWLeg&t=488s — TestUFO pursuit photograph
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nGJAz6Eb5/ — another reviewer
The reviewer above claims its a M250HAN03.5, which shouldn't have the (according to
GGoki) problematic dithering of the S2522HG or the XG259CM, which supposedly are the same in this regard
Eye strain is sadly a matter of trial and error...
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 30 May 2025, 14:42
by v1rtuz
kyube wrote: ↑30 May 2025, 10:00
v1rtuz wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 12:14
I read the forum and downloaded the ColorControl program. I tried turning Dithering on and off, but to my eye there is no change.
I believe those app SW utiltiies which are claimed to "turn off dithering" don't fundamentally do anything.
I'm afraid that I cannot think of another reason as to why your new display may cause you eye strain, as that particular model does not have many deeper reviews about it (such as whether there's light flicker present during particular transitions, )
It seems to sport a YAG phosphor (classic) WLED backlight, so pushing the blame on the wide-color gamut is out of the question.
Here are a few reviews:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wU411S7tY/ (@03:15, 04:29 shows the SPD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdSdijAWLeg&t=488s — TestUFO pursuit photograph
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nGJAz6Eb5/ — another reviewer
The reviewer above claims its a M250HAN03.5, which shouldn't have the (according to
GGoki) problematic dithering of the S2522HG or the XG259CM, which supposedly are the same in this regard
Eye strain is sadly a matter of trial and error...
Thank you for your reply! I will choose another monitor for myself, returned to the old one and the eye strain disappeared. But unfortunately I still could not find the LG 24MP59G panel model. This is a budget gaming monitor of 2017 and my eyes are comfortable.
By the way, this monitor is available on Rtings without a wide color gamut, found your message about KFS.
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 07:55
by v1rtuz
I got the dell u2724d monitor today and my eyes feel comfortable. This monitor has an extended color gamut and it's not fast ips, but it doesn't cause any problems. I am very happy
Re: My eyes are already feeling strained - need help.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 08:06
by kyube
v1rtuz wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 07:55
I got the dell u2724d monitor today and my eyes feel comfortable. This monitor has an extended color gamut and it's not fast ips, but it doesn't cause any problems. I am very happy
Interesting, there could be a correlation to the dithering algorithm employed by it which is more appealing to your eyes.
Some information about it