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I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 00:24
by naporitan
Hi everyone, I found the cause of system-wide desync. It's due to RAM instability!!! My system is a Ryzen 7800x3D, 6000 MHz, CL36 Expo. Why is this severe desync occurring? The problem is that with Expo enabled, your processor can't operate at a 1:1 ratio, and you get unstability at the macro level. And why is it necessary to use Jedec on the AM5? For DDR4, you need a stable 1:1:1 ratio, and not every processor supports XMP at 1:1:1.

Just so you know, I'm using the official Windows 11 25h2 ISO and installed the drivers via the Gigabyte utility.
I don't use any tweaks. I don't change power settings, timers, or anything.
I connect the mouse to the USB port connected to the processor, and the keyboard to the USB port directly connected to the chipset.

mobo - b650 aorus

Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 01:54
by naporitan
naporitan wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 00:24
And why is it necessary to use Jedec on the AM5?
Because on jedec the 1:1 ratio works stably.

Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 01:57
by naporitan
naporitan wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 01:54
Because on jedec the 1:1 ratio works stably.
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Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 02:00
by naporitan
For example, on an LGA1700 with DDR5, you'll always get severe desync because the RAM runs in Gear2 mode! And you won't even be able to get Gear1 on a Jedec 4800! Therefore, you need to use DDR4 and make it stable in Gear1 mode!

Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 02:01
by naporitan
Now you know the true cause of system desynchronization!!! And I hope you'll share your experience :)

Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 02:15
by naporitan
The problem is at the macro level and therefore you will not see errors in stress tests :!:

Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 03:38
by Slender
naporitan wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 02:00
For example, on an LGA1700 with DDR5, you'll always get severe desync because the RAM runs in Gear2 mode! And you won't even be able to get Gear1 on a Jedec 4800! Therefore, you need to use DDR4 and make it stable in Gear1 mode!
3600cl14-14-14-34 Real 1N, still out of synch.

Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 03:51
by naporitan
Slender wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 03:38
3600cl14-14-14-34 Real 1N, still out of synch.
try using jedec.
i7 14700k
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Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 03:53
by Slender
naporitan wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 03:51
Slender wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 03:38
3600cl14-14-14-34 Real 1N, still out of synch.
try using jedec.
i7 14700k
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default with stock voltage feels way better about desync, but still same issue.
it better, as u write before, set xmp frequency, voltage, but stay on auto timmings.

Re: I found the cause of desync.

Posted: 27 Jan 2026, 04:23
by Sz3ypy
I have Intel 12700k pcore 5.2 ecore standart , ddr4 4000 ( i dont remeber now timings ) but as far i remeber i set manual to gear 1 and its works and i didnt Has problem with desync ( or im blind)