Zowie Dyac3 + New Monitors Rumor

[i-no-like-ips]

Seen this rumor on the from page of the Zowie subreddit of Dyac3 and new Zowie monitors coming soon:
- 2K 360hz
- 1K 450hz
- 1K 750hz
- 1K 1000hz

Anyone have any info on this or is it likely BS?

[petight]

That's the only source I've seen as well. There have been panels with this range of Hz for a while now, I think it's a matter of time before something gets rolled out from one of the big brands. I would be excited for something that is 1000Hz with improved response times (if that's even possible anymore for TN) and even more than 10 LED strobing zones. Would also be interested in a 1000Hz 2k 25" OLED panel but that doesn't seem to be coming in the next 2 years.

[kyube]

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I assume you mean this one.

To me, the 24" QHD 360Hz is the most interesting one.

[narclung]

Not BS, but still just a rumor.

The 1440p 360Hz and 1080p 450Hz models are very believable, and even 750Hz–1000Hz isn’t impossible given that ZOWIE by BenQ already ships a 600Hz esports monitor. There are also community posts suggesting BenQ is preparing DyAc 3.

[petight]

Not BS, but still just a rumor.

The 1440p 360Hz and 1080p 450Hz models are very believable, and even 750Hz–1000Hz isn’t impossible given that ZOWIE by BenQ already ships a 600Hz esports monitor. There are also community posts suggesting BenQ is preparing DyAc 3.

There are already 750Hz and 1000Hz panels from Chinese brands, but none are adopted by western brands yet. I think the question is more do these TN panels have improved response times, or is it basically the same panel as the 600Hz but turned up further? If that's the case, probably won't be much of a motion clarity improvement.

[Watchdog]

I hope Dyac 3 will be better than Dyac 2 at least. Like more motion clarity and less strobing. I don't know if that's possible though.

[kyube]

I hope Dyac 3 will be better than Dyac 2 at least. Like more motion clarity and less strobing. I don't know if that's possible though.

My assumption is that DyAc3 will be some VRR+PWM (ELMB-Sync, Pulsar, Aim Stabilizer Sync) competitor, because DyAc is already one of the best (if not the best) strobing implementation on the market in terms of the pulse width & voltage boosting it targets.
It would be ridiculously good if DyAc3 targets a fixed pulse width on all models, as DyAc2 doesn't do that yet.
A 10% pulse width on 600 Hz would be 0,16667 ms, which would be a "6000 Hz effective motion clarity" with a great brightness target.
The only other model I've seen do these values are CRTs or the PG27AQN (at <50cd/m²)
I hope they open up VCP commands on DyAc3 models, akin to DyAc1 & DyAc+, which will allow us to optimize the out of the box duty cycle for lower refresh rate use (100-200Hz)

There are already 750Hz and 1000Hz panels from Chinese brands, but none are adopted by western brands yet. I think the question is more do these TN panels have improved response times, or is it basically the same panel as the 600Hz but turned up further?
If that's the case, probably won't be much of a motion clarity improvement.

That last statement of yours is a common misconception that people have in regards to the way sample & hold works.
If your workload (usually games) is within the favorable G2G RT transitions of the panel, it will be good.
The main reason one stays with LCD is for the ability to add strobing into the mix though, not for S&H performance.

[Watchdog]

I hope Dyac 3 will be better than Dyac 2 at least. Like more motion clarity and less strobing. I don't know if that's possible though.

My assumption is that DyAc3 will be some VRR+PWM (ELMB-Sync, Pulsar, Aim Stabilizer Sync) competitor, because DyAc is already one of the best (if not the best) strobing implementation on the market in terms of the pulse width & voltage boosting it targets.
It would be ridiculously good if DyAc3 targets a fixed pulse width on all models, as DyAc2 doesn't do that yet.
A 10% pulse width on 600 Hz would be 0,16667 ms, which would be a "6000 Hz effective motion clarity" with a great brightness target.
The only other model I've seen do these values are CRTs or the PG27AQN (at <50cd/m²)
I hope they open up VCP commands on DyAc3 models, akin to DyAc1 & DyAc+, which will allow us to optimize the out of the box duty cycle for lower refresh rate use (100-200Hz)

There are already 750Hz and 1000Hz panels from Chinese brands, but none are adopted by western brands yet. I think the question is more do these TN panels have improved response times, or is it basically the same panel as the 600Hz but turned up further?
If that's the case, probably won't be much of a motion clarity improvement.

That last statement of yours is a common misconception that people have in regards to the way sample & hold works.
If your workload (usually games) is within the favorable G2G RT transitions of the panel, it will be good.
The main reason one stays with LCD is for the ability to add strobing into the mix though, not for S&H performance.

I was gonna get the XL2586X+ when you told me that it has the best motion clarity at the moment except for CRT. I'll be waiting for the Dyac 3 data and review.

[petight]

That last statement of yours is a common misconception that people have in regards to the way sample & hold works.
If your workload (usually games) is within the favorable G2G RT transitions of the panel, it will be good.
The main reason one stays with LCD is for the ability to add strobing into the mix though, not for S&H performance.

Sorry I don't understand. I would think if 600Hz panels already have transitions too slow for strobing (you can still see slight ufo outline from prior frame) and the panel response stays the same then the motion clarity performance will be consistent, regardless you are increasing the fps/hz by nearly 70%. The distance between the first and second UFO will decrease proportionally but that is it. I guess in the end you can consider that an improvement...

I did see some promising data on response times for the ANTGAMER 750Hz panel from chinese youtubers, so I think response times have improved. Fingers crossed.

[kyube]

Sorry I don't understand. I would think if 600Hz panels already have transitions too slow for strobing (you can still see slight ufo outline from prior frame)

That's precisely what I'm pointing at.
TestUFO only tests a particular RGB range, which isn't representative of how it'd look like in-game.
They are "slow" in the UFO (G2G > refreshtime), but that doesn't scale onto every possible transition available.

I did see some promising data on response times for the ANTGAMER 750Hz panel from chinese youtubers, so I think response times have improved. Fingers crossed.

I haven't seen any OSRTT data for the 750Hz models with RGB 5/10 Offset yet.
They mostly do 10-90% G2G RT (VESA standard) for reviews, which hides the weak transitions easier.
Even OSRTT hides transitions