Need advice finding monitor for particular use case
Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 07:49
I'm trying to find the perfect monitor for a particular setup, I'm running dual PC's, a Game PC and a Stream PC, using a HDMI 2.0 capture card, so HDMI from Game PC > Stream PC (pass-through) > Monitor.
The dilemma is that I love my G-Sync TN panel monitor (Asus PG27VQ) but since ill be forced to run HDMI instead of DisplayPort, I'll lose G-Sync, which is fine but if I can find a monitor with some kind of blur reduction technique, that's the next best thing right?
Most G-Sync monitor's have ULMB, So I would probably be able keep my PG27VQ and just change the inputs whenever I wanted to stream, but it's HDMI port is v1.4, in fact every G-Sync monitor I've ever seen has HDMI v1.4! Why did they decide to do this? technical limitation? Lots FreeSync and FreeSync 2 monitors have HDMI 2.0
Now that you can use FreeSync monitors with G-Sync I thought I had some hope with purchasing any HDMI 2.0 FreeSync monitor and be able to still use G-Sync, but according to an Nvidia rep, G-Sync still only works via DisplayPort
So, with all that in mind, I'm looking for a 27" (maybe 32") 2560x1440, 120hz or higher, probably TN panel (unless I can be convinced into VA), HDMI 2.0, some kind of Blur Reduction, ideally 1800R Curve but not necessary monitor
I have tried the BenQ ZOWIE XL2735 with DyAc, which was nice blur reduction but the colour and contrast of that monitor was really bad, and I've only ever owned TN panels so it must be bad, my other TN's are far better, especially my main PG27VQ, I also didnt like the thick bezels on the ZOWIE too much so I sold it
I have seen these monitors so far:
[*] Cloning main monitor connected via DisplayPort to a HDMI output into capture card (no pass-through)
This causes really bad tearing in the cloned feed, a work-around is using Nvidia's "Fast" sync in control panel and running games as high FPS as possible, not a fan of Fast sync.
[*] NewTek NDI network based desktop stream over gigabit ethernet (no capture card method)
I haven't been able to get this to work smoothly for me, sometimes stable but usually lots of stuttering, very unreliable, and I've tried OBS on both machines with the NDI plug-in and also trying NDI Tools Scan Converter and Virtual Camera (Don't need OBS on Game PC, or OBS plug-in on Stream PC)
[*] Nvidias NVENC 50,000bitrate stream over gigabit network (another no capture card method)
I have tried a couple of methods for this, setting up an Nginx server on Stream PC and configuring OBS on the Game PC to "stream" to that server. And I've tried a UDP "recording" method to the Stream PC's IP address directly, Either way, this has been the most stable method for me, but it has a 3-4 second delay between Game PC and Stream PC, as long as I send the audio feed with the video feed it will be in sync, however I prefer to have a webcam and talk on Discord on the Stream PC which do not have 3-4 sec delay so it's not ideal.
Seems like the best way for me is to pass-through the capture card to a monitor using HDMI 2.0 but I need recommendations, thanks heaps in advance to anyone who can help, and also anyone who runs a dual PC streaming setup, reply with your method as I'm generally interested in how people are going about it. Cheers
The dilemma is that I love my G-Sync TN panel monitor (Asus PG27VQ) but since ill be forced to run HDMI instead of DisplayPort, I'll lose G-Sync, which is fine but if I can find a monitor with some kind of blur reduction technique, that's the next best thing right?
Most G-Sync monitor's have ULMB, So I would probably be able keep my PG27VQ and just change the inputs whenever I wanted to stream, but it's HDMI port is v1.4, in fact every G-Sync monitor I've ever seen has HDMI v1.4! Why did they decide to do this? technical limitation? Lots FreeSync and FreeSync 2 monitors have HDMI 2.0
Now that you can use FreeSync monitors with G-Sync I thought I had some hope with purchasing any HDMI 2.0 FreeSync monitor and be able to still use G-Sync, but according to an Nvidia rep, G-Sync still only works via DisplayPort
So, with all that in mind, I'm looking for a 27" (maybe 32") 2560x1440, 120hz or higher, probably TN panel (unless I can be convinced into VA), HDMI 2.0, some kind of Blur Reduction, ideally 1800R Curve but not necessary monitor
I have tried the BenQ ZOWIE XL2735 with DyAc, which was nice blur reduction but the colour and contrast of that monitor was really bad, and I've only ever owned TN panels so it must be bad, my other TN's are far better, especially my main PG27VQ, I also didnt like the thick bezels on the ZOWIE too much so I sold it
I have seen these monitors so far:
- Agon AG273QCX (27", 2560x1440, 144hz, 1ms MPRT, VA panel, 1800R curve, no blur reduction?)
Agon AG322QC4 (32", 2560x1440, 144hz, 4ms GtG, VA panel, 1800R curve, no blur reduction?)
Asus XG32VQR (32", 2560x1440, 144hz, 4ms GtG, VA panel, 1800R curve, no blur reduction?)
MSI MAG271CQR (27", 2560x1440, 144hz, 1ms MPRT, VA panel, 1800R curve, no blur reduction?)
[*] Cloning main monitor connected via DisplayPort to a HDMI output into capture card (no pass-through)
This causes really bad tearing in the cloned feed, a work-around is using Nvidia's "Fast" sync in control panel and running games as high FPS as possible, not a fan of Fast sync.
[*] NewTek NDI network based desktop stream over gigabit ethernet (no capture card method)
I haven't been able to get this to work smoothly for me, sometimes stable but usually lots of stuttering, very unreliable, and I've tried OBS on both machines with the NDI plug-in and also trying NDI Tools Scan Converter and Virtual Camera (Don't need OBS on Game PC, or OBS plug-in on Stream PC)
[*] Nvidias NVENC 50,000bitrate stream over gigabit network (another no capture card method)
I have tried a couple of methods for this, setting up an Nginx server on Stream PC and configuring OBS on the Game PC to "stream" to that server. And I've tried a UDP "recording" method to the Stream PC's IP address directly, Either way, this has been the most stable method for me, but it has a 3-4 second delay between Game PC and Stream PC, as long as I send the audio feed with the video feed it will be in sync, however I prefer to have a webcam and talk on Discord on the Stream PC which do not have 3-4 sec delay so it's not ideal.
Seems like the best way for me is to pass-through the capture card to a monitor using HDMI 2.0 but I need recommendations, thanks heaps in advance to anyone who can help, and also anyone who runs a dual PC streaming setup, reply with your method as I'm generally interested in how people are going about it. Cheers