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future 240fps monitors
Posted: 06 Apr 2019, 18:23
by 24fpsmasterrace
Hello. I am csgo professional from Europe. I look at 240hz monitors and all get shady reviews in certain areas like especially with strobing at 240hz. From what I can see the best choice for csgo would be zowie xl2546 (please correct if wrong) however at a price of 35000 rubles it is not cheap. So i want to know if i buy know will i regret it when new 240hz replacement is announced in 2 month time.
Do we have anything set for the next 12 months or so.

Re: future 240fps monitors
Posted: 06 Apr 2019, 18:32
by Chief Blur Buster
Firstly, CS:GO being a high frame rate game, definitely benefits from 240Hz. Most machines now can spray frame rates that makes 240Hz worth it in CS:GO. On average, there's a confirmed competitive advantage by multiple parties if you keep up those frames. So there's no hooey about 240Hz, it might not help perfectly 100% of everyone, but it helps a great deal many.
Yes, there's teething problems of some early 240Hz monitors (e.g. frame skipping bugs, bad overdrive) but you can easily avoid the worst of that now by limiting yourself to known-good options, or doing workarounds (e.g. enabling FreeSync to fix bad overdrive on certain models).
Next, if you want strobing, the XL2546 definitely has the lowest lag strobing (it can be perceptually lagless).
If strobing doesn't matter then keep in mind there are a huge variety of 240Hz monitors that can take up the bill, from things like the
Dell Alienware 240Hz's, the
Viewsonic XG2530 240Hz, and others -- that may be sometimes half the price in your particular country. The
Zowie XL2546 is great in one of the better strobed 240Hz options (strobed lag-wise and flexibility-wise) but it certainly is a huge premium in some countries. It all depends on your priorities, if you need GSYNC or FreeSync or not, if you need strobing or not, etc.
What GPU do you have? What monitor are you upgrading from?
Re: future 240fps monitors
Posted: 06 Apr 2019, 18:59
by 24fpsmasterrace
Hello and thank you for the fast reply. I am not sure about strobing but it is a feature I am curious to use.
I notice a lot of pros will use the XL2546 which is why i consider it mainly but it may be sponsored i guess.
Gpu is 1060 6gb and current monitor is a an AOC G2590VXQ 75hz monitor. I think gpu should be ok but the monitor needs to be upgraded.
Also what about future monitors? Is there any comment you are allowed to make?

Re: future 240fps monitors
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:01
by Chief Blur Buster
A lot of esports venues definitely use the XL2546, and you rather train towards the venue equipment where possible. (e.g. allowed to turn on/off DyAc, etc). The widely accepted thinking is to train towards the equipment you'll be forced to play on. Since you're often not allowed to bring your own computer and you have to play on the competition equipment at the esports arena. So that's definitely an excellent consideration.
That said, if you're training towards other monitors such as a at NVIDIA GSYNC sponsored venue, then the XL2546 might not be a perfectly symmetric to that training, as you ideally want to train with similar settings to the settings you'll be forced to play with. (Settings-change policy varies a bit -- depending on where you are in the world and which venue, sometimes you're allowed to tweak and sometimes not)
That said, XL2546 is a very popular esports 240Hz monitor and has come highly recommended by many. And you, can indeed turn on/off DyAc as needed for the appropriate situations.
Some esports atheletes will tell you to turn off DyAc or strobing. But it's a parrot advice that assumes there's ruinious input lag which there isn't always (240Hz DyAc has MUCH less input lag than ULMB). However, importantly, it's simply better to understand when to use it and when not to use it. If you train with DyAc OFF and then you're forced to play at a venue with DyAc ON, you'll definitely wish you pre-trained with DyAc ON. And also, some games and some game tactics can benefit from blur reduction despite it near-negligible increase in lag though it's more common in crosshairsless games -- check out
HOWTO Using ULMB Beautifully or Competitively -- to understand the benefits and limitations of blur reduction including ULMB, DyAc, ELMB, etc. It just often boils to a matter of preference & the venue you are training for.
1060 is perfectly fine for CS:GO 240Hz.
Re: future 240fps monitors
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 07:57
by REMOV_CELER
Hello, if you don't mind 27 inches, the LG 27GK750F seems to be around 27 to 30 thousand rubles in Russla, and its input lag is very comparable to other 240Hz monitors, as long, as you use the "Original" picture scaling mode.
Motion clarity is excellent in CS:GO at 240Hz, even without strobing -> fully comparable to my old 115kHz, 160Hz fast phosphor CRT. Colors are decent out of the box, I'd say it's above average for TN panels after some very light tweaking. I'll get a DP1.4 cable soon, atm Large VT tweaks can't be applied due to a limit with my GPU and its cable (miniDP), so I didn't test the Large VT tweak, but except for the double image it was quite great, too.