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Posted: **18 Dec 2019, 06:43**

I have a weird issue and i believe it is also the cause of my in game stuttering as well. Any time I do the frame rate test the status is happily sitting at READY*. However anytime that I move my mouse it goes straight to STUTTER WARNING.

I have tried a G Pro Wireless on 250 HZ polling rate and a Razer Deathadder without synapse installed so I imagine the polling rate is 500-1000.

I have an Acer KG251Q 24.5" Dbmiipx 240hz monitor and I've tried 240hz, 160hz (custom res set in radeon software) and 120hz all tested at 1920x1080. The monitor itself has 50, 59, 60, 85, 120 and 240 hz refresh rates by default.

CPU: Ryzen 3900x cooled with a 280mm AIO
GPU: Rx 5700xt (Also tried on a 1660 Super after clean DDU, same issue)
Ram: XPG 3600mhz 16gb
SSD: Samsung EVO 860??
MOBO: Asus Prime Pro x470
PSU: Seasonic GX 750W

This has followed through from my previous Win 10 install to a completely new, formatted SSD install of Win 10. I have also tried on a second monitor (BenQ 27" 144hz 1440p - name eludes me xl2730z or something like that), same issue there.

Any help would be immensely appreciated because the stuttering is getting to be insanely cumbersome the higher skill level I get in game.

Posted: **19 Dec 2019, 01:51**

tangoapex wrote: ↑
18 Dec 2019, 06:43
I have a weird issue and i believe it is also the cause of my in game stuttering as well. Any time I do the frame rate test the status is happily sitting at READY*. However anytime that I move my mouse it goes straight to STUTTER WARNING.

More than 99% of the time, stutters in TestUFO has nothing to do with stutters in your game.

Chrome and FireFox browser is known to have some stutter issues when you move mouse around during TestUFO, and we've found there is little to no co-relation to stutters in games. It's often a red herring to a wild goose chase, so search for a separate cause of your stutters in your game.

You don't want to use TestUFO to troubleshoot videogame stutters.

Blur Busters currently recommends the following to make mouse turns left/right as smooth as keyboard strafe left/right
(A) Ultra-smooth esports mouse pad
(B) Clean mouse pad
(C) High poll rate (no less than 1000Hz)
(D) Mouse that supports high speed at high DPI (like the new 12800dpi sensors)
(E) High DPI setting (1600dpi or 3200dpi or even 6400dpi)
(F) Very low In-game sensitivity

Technically when you adjust Low DPI (mouse utility) and High Sensitivity (game settings), your slow turns will be very steppy (step-step-step). If you re-balance to High DPI (mouse utility) and Low Sensitivity (game settings), your slow turns will be TestUFO-smooooooth just like keyboard strafe left/right (at least if you're using a recent mouse on ultraclean high-resolution mousepad with clean mousefeet). Only your hand steadiness will be your limiting factor in how smooth you can turn. Theoretically the DPI-vs-sensitivity rebalancing can lead to the same turnspeed (physical mouse inches per second translating to same amount of turn), just that your slowturns becomes smoother and less stuttery / steppy. This can be a big asset, especially if you used strobed operation (Which amplifies visibility of mouse microstutters).

If the de-stuttering is not good enough, try one of the low-latency methods of framerate=Hz matching. Use VSYNC ON temporarily to test the smoothness, then fix your lag by using one of the low-lag equivalents of VSYNC ON that is available. The VSYNC OFF advice is wonderful for low lag, but often wrecks stutters for stutter-sensitive individuals. Right Tool For The Right Job, I say!

Posted: **19 Dec 2019, 20:17**

Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑
19 Dec 2019, 01:51

tangoapex wrote: ↑
18 Dec 2019, 06:43
I have a weird issue and i believe it is also the cause of my in game stuttering as well. Any time I do the frame rate test the status is happily sitting at READY*. However anytime that I move my mouse it goes straight to STUTTER WARNING.
More than 99% of the time, stutters in TestUFO has nothing to do with stutters in your game.

Chrome and FireFox browser is known to have some stutter issues when you move mouse around during TestUFO, and we've found there is little to no co-relation to stutters in games. It's often a red herring to a wild goose chase, so search for a separate cause of your stutters in your game.

You don't want to use TestUFO to troubleshoot videogame stutters.

Blur Busters currently recommends the following to make mouse turns left/right as smooth as keyboard strafe left/right
(A) Ultra-smooth esports mouse pad
(B) Clean mouse pad
(C) High poll rate (no less than 1000Hz)
(D) Mouse that supports high speed at high DPI (like the new 12800dpi sensors)
(E) High DPI setting (1600dpi or 3200dpi or even 6400dpi)
(F) Very low In-game sensitivity

Technically when you adjust Low DPI (mouse utility) and High Sensitivity (game settings), your slow turns will be very steppy (step-step-step). If you re-balance to High DPI (mouse utility) and Low Sensitivity (game settings), your slow turns will be TestUFO-smooooooth just like keyboard strafe left/right (at least if you're using a recent mouse on ultraclean high-resolution mousepad with clean mousefeet). Only your hand steadiness will be your limiting factor in how smooth you can turn. Theoretically the DPI-vs-sensitivity rebalancing can lead to the same turnspeed (physical mouse inches per second translating to same amount of turn), just that your slowturns becomes smoother and less stuttery / steppy. This can be a big asset, especially if you used strobed operation (Which amplifies visibility of mouse microstutters).

If the de-stuttering is not good enough, try one of the low-latency methods of framerate=Hz matching. Use VSYNC ON temporarily to test the smoothness, then fix your lag by using one of the low-lag equivalents of VSYNC ON that is available. The VSYNC OFF advice is wonderful for low lag, but often wrecks stutters for stutter-sensitive individuals. Right Tool For The Right Job, I say!

Greatly appreciate you taking your time to answer this.

I have noticed that higher polling rates causes more red lines in the frame time or the weird graph test that is normally all low green spikes when not moving mouse. If I use a 250hz polling rate then it spikes rarely and seemingly not as hard. I've tried the whole moving mouse while in Chrome on my partners pc and the stutter warnings don't occur so that's why I figured it might have something to do with my stutters in game.

I have a semi recent gaming mousepad and very recently replaced my deathadder elite with a g pro wireless. The stutters occur on both however I might try another mousepad tonight when I'm home also.

I use 800dpi and 1 in game sens on apex legends and when I get home I might upload a slow motion vid of the stutters I get when moving mouse, would you suggest any automatic mouse moving programs to make the test not involve any human interaction?

I'd really love to get it fixed because even with the stutters I was one of the best wraith players in Australia and almost hit top 50 in the world for headshots on wraith, want to get back on that grind but the stuttering is just killing my motivation because it's out of my control

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