2023 Esports Optimization Guide

[ahead]

He is right, you can't change csrss priority, under the system account either. I know the way how to change priority for csrss, but, this does not change input lag at all. dont waste the time guys.

[EchoGhost]

I have tested further, and it turns out that my NIC driver cannot be set to limit 1 or put into legacy mode. Whenever I disable MSI Mode on my NIC, my internet is completely off (Error Code 10). Did you ever have problems like this before?.

[Slender]

He is right, you can't change csrss priority, under the system account either. I know the way how to change priority for csrss, but, this does not change input lag at all. dont waste the time guys.

at all yes - but little better MT graphs.

[imprecise]

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Do I want these IRQ values negative for MSI mode? How do I achieve that

Press Apply and restart PC. I suspect realtek audio could be another device that works best in legacy but haven't tested this idea yet.

I have tested further, and it turns out that my NIC driver cannot be set to limit 1 or put into legacy mode. Whenever I disable MSI Mode on my NIC, my internet is completely off (Error Code 10). Did you ever have problems like this before?.

I looked up error code 10 and it's an indication the driver isn't working. It's possible your NIC does not support legacy mode, or the drivers might need to be reinstalled or rolled back. My NIC is only pci-e x1 speed and was "designed" into a board with all pci-e 3 and 4 components, so it makes sense for legacy mode to work better in this case. CSGO is also running on an 20+ year legacy engine, which could be another reason legacy settings could work better. Running 'ipconfig /flushdns' in command prompt as Admin helped restore connection when my drivers weren't working correctly.

[imprecise]

I found Legacy devices are listed as "PciExpressLegacyEndpoint" in MSI Utility under device type. I'm now testing only the 3 devices that have this designation as Legacy. NIC was not one, so I'm currently testing with it on MSI and will check back on it later. So far the results seem promising.

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Edit:
This did not work out well at all. Testing in CSGO FPS was dropping to 300s and 200s, and then the computer completely locked up. The NIC lag also returned, so I switched back to everything MSI and NIC legacy.

[axaro1]

I found a couple of settings that might improve mouse input with AM4 motherboards when using SCEWIN.
I highly recommend to use Amitxv fork since there are apparently people putting malicious scripts.

(https://github.com/amitxv/SCEWIN/tree/main).





These two are simple power saving stuff, there are multiple hidden layers of power saving once you expose all the values hidden by the UI.


^this one is very interesting, if you are forced to use C-States (like in the case of the 5800x3d, which is the only way to have 1-2 cores boost to 4550mhz, you can keep C-States ON while breaking of the c-states when the mouse detects an input.

Enabling this feature makes C0 residency double when using c-states with high polling rate mice.

Do you guys remember Buildzoid recommending to disable C-states with X570/B550 to fix the USB Dropout issue?

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7YvN8MKQg)

I 100% believe that enabling this setting is the long-awaited USB dropout fix for X570 owners who failed to fix this issue with the official "bios fix" from their manufacturers.

[imprecise]

Friendly reminder:

Check your settings again. I had 4 settings change that forced my PC to underperform, starting about 1 week ago. I think it's connected to a Windows update that installed at the end of August.

Gsync was on even though it was off in nvidia control panel and monitor OSD. This causes unplayable mouse movement for me.
Game mode turned on. This causes Windows to be micromanaging apps in the background, which causes a decrease in mouse fidelity.
HAGS turned on. This causes excessive 3D load spikes, leading to lag and a loud PC under light load.
Power profile reverting to balanced even after changing it manually and changing it in Process Lasso. This makes the computer always behind in competitive games -this really should be fixed by the game devs, makes no sense a 4-5ghz CPU can fall behind when a 2ghz CPU would maintain a better sync.

[trefe]

I found a couple of settings that might improve mouse input with AM4 motherboards when using SCEWIN.
I highly recommend to use Amitxv fork since there are apparently people putting malicious scripts.

(https://github.com/amitxv/SCEWIN/tree/main).





These two are simple power saving stuff, there are multiple hidden layers of power saving once you expose all the values hidden by the UI.


^this one is very interesting, if you are forced to use C-States (like in the case of the 5800x3d, which is the only way to have 1-2 cores boost to 4550mhz, you can keep C-States ON while breaking of the c-states when the mouse detects an input.

Enabling this feature makes C0 residency double when using c-states with high polling rate mice.

Do you guys remember Buildzoid recommending to disable C-states with X570/B550 to fix the USB Dropout issue?

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7YvN8MKQg)

I 100% believe that enabling this setting is the long-awaited USB dropout fix for X570 owners who failed to fix this issue with the official "bios fix" from their manufacturers.

Thanks!

It was a particularly useful tip for me, my mouse feels better (Apex Legends).
Maybe the slight sluggishness that characterized the enemy's target (my target) has improved.
As if, but it's only as if, it also smoothed the game a little (I don't use g-sync or RTSS, I use caps inside the game).

[SachsenPowl]

Game mode turned on. This causes Windows to be micromanaging apps in the background, which causes a decrease in mouse fidelity.
HAGS turned on. This causes excessive 3D load spikes, leading to lag and a loud PC under light load.

Do you have any benchmarks/proofs for these statements? On my testings all those settings to on seems to have NO impact on mouse-input but generally more fps (low fps %). But I have a highly stripped windows build, so no background apps to "micromanaging" and those spikes I also can not confirm on a Turing-card... Proof would be nice (:

[imprecise]

Game mode turned on. This causes Windows to be micromanaging apps in the background, which causes a decrease in mouse fidelity.
HAGS turned on. This causes excessive 3D load spikes, leading to lag and a loud PC under light load.

Do you have any benchmarks/proofs for these statements? On my testings all those settings to on seems to have NO impact on mouse-input but generally more fps (low fps %). But I have a highly stripped windows build, so no background apps to "micromanaging" and those spikes I also can not confirm on a Turing-card... Proof would be nice (:

These settings will vary by system. For HAGS, I think I meant copy load rather than 3D load, but don't have any screenshots of it periodically spiking from 0-80%. Game mode is advertised to monitor the PC for games running and prevent Windows Update from running in the background. The monitoring part is the issue for me, as any background apps using CPU, even less than 1%, can affect the mouse movement. I'm using an 8khz mouse, which likely brings this issue to the forefront in my system.