Hello all.
This forum was quite helpful in my quest for competitive gaming, low input lag, high FPS, and smoothness in the past. I've decided to drop my own compiled research for anyone interested, as knowledge is best shared!
This project started out with a couple of friends after we got tired of subpar, random, and poor performances out of PC games. We went through a ton of information on the internet to arrive at settings that work fairly well. I've tested 20+ games at this point and all of them run smoothly and without any complaints (with objective FPS/latency data through CapFrameX). There is minimal noticeable input lag on my system, everything feels ultra responsive/instant, and gaming is a lot more fun. Whereas prior to this - it was a stuttering mess and felt delayed.
https://tinyurl.com/sweatypcguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILu ... xYJgQ4sxDM (non-shortened link)
Parts of the guide are game-specific for the games I play (Unreal Tournament 4/Aimlab/Kovaaks) and can be ignored, but the rest of the information should have value to everyone. It's also oriented around Nvidia GPU + Intel CPU since this is what our PCs have, and therefore could be tested.
Benchmarks for frametimes 0-10ms graph various games: https://imgur.com/a/UmQoM2D
Benchmarks for various games/Latencymon: https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
Part 2: https://imgur.com/a/NznZCkg
HF, and let me know if there's any feedback/questions!
Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
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Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
Last edited by yeesecretalias on 20 Mar 2023, 03:42, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
Zero input lag! That's incredible you managed to achieve this. How may I ask we're you able to eliminate the 2ms of input lag from your 390hz monitor? I read through your guide that you posted, but it doesn't cover this aspect to get to 0 input lag.
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Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
Bad wording, I'll rephrase that to "minimal noticeable input lag" .
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Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
Thanks for sharing
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Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
Zero input lag is not possible by physics laws
Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
Huh? Post #1 disappeared that had the optimization guide. I wonder what happened.
Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
The OP edited their post(s), and since they are a new member, their first few posts require manual moderation (including edits), thus it went back into the queue until I just approved it again.
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Displays: ASUS PG27AQN, LG 48C4 VR: Beyond, Quest 3, Reverb G2, Index OS: Windows 11 Pro Case: Fractal Design Torrent PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000 MB: ASUS Z790 Hero CPU: Intel i9-13900k w/Noctua NH-U12A GPU: GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC RAM: 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 DDR5 6400MHz CL32 SSDs: 2TB WD_BLACK SN850 (OS), 4TB WD_BLACK SN850X (Games) Keyboards: Wooting 60HE, Logitech G915 TKL Mice: Razer Viper Mini SE, Razer Viper 8kHz Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Katana V2 (speakers/amp/DAC), AFUL Performer 8 (IEMs)
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Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
Edited previously to remove misinformation due to poor choice of wording. Lmk if there's anything else, it's hard to get large quantities of information right on the first try .
Some objective stats of various games, their FPS / estimated input lag & latencymon data.
https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
If anyone has any suggestions for tests or games, I can run them.
Some objective stats of various games, their FPS / estimated input lag & latencymon data.
https://imgur.com/a/eN67YYJ
If anyone has any suggestions for tests or games, I can run them.
i7-13700k @ 5.7GHz, GeForce RTX™ 3070 GAMING OC 8G (rev. 2.0) - Gigabyte, MSI PRO Z690-A DDR5, 32GB DDR5-6000, Samsung NVMe M.2 980 1TB, Acer Nitro XV252QF @ 390hz, Razer Viper 8k @ 8khz, Artisan Hayate Otsu Soft XL / Artisan Shidenkai, AtlasOS 1803
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Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
you seriously use useplatformtick yes + 0.5ms timer in 2023??
and msi afterberner adds dpc latency on lastest nvidia drivers, use reg tweak for lock freq.
anyway, thanks for this.
and msi afterberner adds dpc latency on lastest nvidia drivers, use reg tweak for lock freq.
anyway, thanks for this.
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Re: Sweaty Optimization Guide (Low Input Lag/High FPS/Competitive Gaming)
No difference on my system between afterburner on/off. I tested many times with longer time frames than 6-7 minutes, but this is sufficient. There are few things that actually affect DPC latency (drivers/timers/powerplan and power saving features/bad apps).
I have found no reg tweaks that actually lock the frequency correctly.
After applying them, they still bounce around like crazy if you check any info tool, but if you have a link that worked for you I'd love it.
Also the reason why I use timer tool is because 1803 is the last OS with a specific timer system (and overall lower latency than newer windows OS versions), and setting the timer res works nicely especially for older games. There is way too much debate on the net regarding timers and thousands of different opinions/system variation regarding it, so just use whatever runs best on your config.
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