Hi Guys,
I am trying to make a decision between those two (Zowie XL2566k or Acer XV252QF), I don't play fps games, only one fighting game, street fighter 5/6, I read that the zowie has more motion clarity but I am not sure if one of those has other specs that will be more helpful than the other in fighting games.
Any help would be really appreciated.
Many thanks
Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
Hi again, it looks my question may have been too specific and too niche, if nobody knows, can you guys at least tell me if the XL2566K is the better monitor over all?
Many thanks
Many thanks
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
I've had both monitors and I'm using XL2566K now because for me it's better. The pixel transitions are significantly faster which helps reduce motion blur, which the XV252QF had a significant amount of. Also, the DyAc+ feature at 360Hz helps even more, compared to the VRB=extreme at 390Hz that I was using with the XV252QF (I got accustomed to the lower brightness and now with XL2566K I am still using the same level of brightness, adjusted through the strobe phase width with blurbuster's strobe utility).
While XV252QF was probably the best competitive monitor so far, I think it's safe to say that XL2566K is the obvious winner now (I haven't tested PG27AQN though, and one 240Hz OLED from LG is released soon).
While XV252QF was probably the best competitive monitor so far, I think it's safe to say that XL2566K is the obvious winner now (I haven't tested PG27AQN though, and one 240Hz OLED from LG is released soon).
PG248QP - XL2566K - XV252Q F - PG259QN - XL2546K - Y27gq-25 - AG251FZ - LaCie Electron 22 Blue IV
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
For double the price I'm not buying the zowie. The difference is miniscule, and I play valorant, cs, apex etc... You state you are playing "1 fighting game" I would buy the AOPEN 25XV2Q (same as the Acer version)
All that said, both great monitors.
All that said, both great monitors.
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
Both the Acer and the Benq are great monitors but from my understanding Street Fighter 5 and 6 are respectively locked to 60 and 120fps so you should be aware of this if you plan to use Dyac or VRB:
If you want to make a custom resolution for 60 and 120hz to use with strobing you would be better off with a 240hz monitor that would give you enough VT headroom at lower refresh rates to achieve crosstalk-less motion blur reduction.
If you just want a high refresh rate monitor and forget about strobing, both monitors are fine, the XL2566K has better clarity but it has all the downsides of TN and it's a little bit overpriced, the Acer is great value but motion clarity is not as good.
If you want to make a custom resolution for 60 and 120hz to use with strobing you would be better off with a 240hz monitor that would give you enough VT headroom at lower refresh rates to achieve crosstalk-less motion blur reduction.
If you just want a high refresh rate monitor and forget about strobing, both monitors are fine, the XL2566K has better clarity but it has all the downsides of TN and it's a little bit overpriced, the Acer is great value but motion clarity is not as good.
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
*= currently owned
MONITOR: XL2566K custom VT: https://i.imgur.com/ylYkuLf.png
CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
GPU: 3080FE undervolted
RAM: https://i.imgur.com/iwmraZB.png
MOUSE: Endgame Gear OP1 8k
KEYBOARD: Wooting 60he
*= currently owned
MONITOR: XL2566K custom VT: https://i.imgur.com/ylYkuLf.png
CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
GPU: 3080FE undervolted
RAM: https://i.imgur.com/iwmraZB.png
MOUSE: Endgame Gear OP1 8k
KEYBOARD: Wooting 60he
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
Hi, thanks for confirming that the XL2566k was better for you, this really helps since u had both. motion blur is important and does impact the experience in fighting games.Inco^ wrote: ↑18 Dec 2022, 23:48I've had both monitors and I'm using XL2566K now because for me it's better. The pixel transitions are significantly faster which helps reduce motion blur, which the XV252QF had a significant amount of. Also, the DyAc+ feature at 360Hz helps even more, compared to the VRB=extreme at 390Hz that I was using with the XV252QF (I got accustomed to the lower brightness and now with XL2566K I am still using the same level of brightness, adjusted through the strobe phase width with blurbuster's strobe utility).
While XV252QF was probably the best competitive monitor so far, I think it's safe to say that XL2566K is the obvious winner now (I haven't tested PG27AQN though, and one 240Hz OLED from LG is released soon).
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
In my region the AOPEN 25XV2Q costs as much as the acer 390hz, but is also much less reviewed.. i will need to do some research..
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
Hi, both SF5 and SF6 are locked at 60fps, (120fps is supported in 6, but only when moving around in selection screens and battle hubs before the actual games starts locked at 60).axaro1 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 06:11Both the Acer and the Benq are great monitors but from my understanding Street Fighter 5 and 6 are respectively locked to 60 and 120fps so you should be aware of this if you plan to use Dyac or VRB:
If you want to make a custom resolution for 60 and 120hz to use with strobing you would be better off with a 240hz monitor that would give you enough VT headroom at lower refresh rates to achieve crosstalk-less motion blur reduction.
If you just want a high refresh rate monitor and forget about strobing, both monitors are fine, the XL2566K has better clarity but it has all the downsides of TN and it's a little bit overpriced, the Acer is great value but motion clarity is not as good.
I Have no idea about how Using Dyac would impact a game locked at 60fps, this is worrying, I have a friend who is using the Alienware 360hz monitor and he said it's much faster and better than his old 60hz, he didn't encounter those issues, another Pro player I know is using the Acer 390hz.
Thanks for mentioning this issue, So basically I won't be able to use Dyac, and that's zowie's main advantage over the Acer nitro, it would then make no sense to pay an extra 250-300 euros, I should probably just get the Acer 390hz, without Dyac activated i found this comparison on youtube:
it looks like zowie is still a bit better even with Dyac off, but Is that a significant and impactful improvement in motion clarity and will it result in a better gaming experience?
Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
If game is locked to 60 then you need to look for 60 Hz 60 fps ufos for comparisons, these are at 360+. It's always a different story at low vs max refresh rate. Unfortunately games that are locked at low frame rate are also locked from improving sample-and-hold motion clarity.
When it comes to strobing you definitely want perfect Hz=FPS sync which can be tricky to achieve without compromises like latency or screen tearing. And for 60 fps strobing you'll need a monitor that supports 60Hz and currently only XG2431 can do that. But note that strobing is flickering, especially at such low frequencies. So make sure you can handle it before purchasing.
When it comes to strobing you definitely want perfect Hz=FPS sync which can be tricky to achieve without compromises like latency or screen tearing. And for 60 fps strobing you'll need a monitor that supports 60Hz and currently only XG2431 can do that. But note that strobing is flickering, especially at such low frequencies. So make sure you can handle it before purchasing.
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Re: Zowie XL2566K or Acer nitro XV252QF for Fighting games?
For fps games, switching from the XV252QF to the XL2566K made me perform slightly better.
I'm not sure about what matters for fighting games, I guess it is all about timings and animation clarity. We could argue that if the game is stuck at 60fps you'll see the same frame for 6 refreshes so the difference in response times might not be extremely noticeable because most transitions will already hit the target by the end of first refresh, I'd only consider the Zowie for games like Valorant/Overwatch/R6s/... unless you got money to burn.
I'll be honest, if I was you I'd probably go for the XG2431 due to its almost unique variable-scanrate panel (which makes 60hz latency comparable to 240hz latency) paired with 60hz single strobe capability, you'd get both low latency with no crosstalk and no fps<strobe rate artifacts which means that you could match CRT level of clarity with much lower lag, both the Acer and the Zowie seem extremely overkill but if you really want to go for a 300+hz monitor and sacrifice clarity for a few milliseconds of lag, then it's all about what you value:
better colors? Acer
better clarity? Zowie
XL2566K* | XV252QF* | LG C1* | HP OMEN X 25 | XL2546K | VG259QM | XG2402 | LS24F350[RIP]
*= currently owned
MONITOR: XL2566K custom VT: https://i.imgur.com/ylYkuLf.png
CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
GPU: 3080FE undervolted
RAM: https://i.imgur.com/iwmraZB.png
MOUSE: Endgame Gear OP1 8k
KEYBOARD: Wooting 60he
*= currently owned
MONITOR: XL2566K custom VT: https://i.imgur.com/ylYkuLf.png
CPU: 5800x3d 102mhz BCLK
GPU: 3080FE undervolted
RAM: https://i.imgur.com/iwmraZB.png
MOUSE: Endgame Gear OP1 8k
KEYBOARD: Wooting 60he