Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

[Notty_PT]

I really have problems in cs go to spot enemies compared to XL2540. Models do not stand out from backround somehow.
Everything so dark and colorless. Maybe the Zowie was the other extreme and I need to adapt?
Playing/aiming feels really good and I would like to keep the acer.
Can someone share settings for competetive cs go only?
Thanks

actual settings:
colors: warm
gamma 2.2
max brightness on+increased in driver
OD normal
OC on
VRB off
Blackboost on
Saturation increased in driver

You are getting affected by the crappy non ideal pixel response time of these AUO ips 360hz panels. I don´t know a single pro player that made the switch to this monitor. That says a lot. In fact, even OptimumTech youtuber (wich a lot of guys here like), went back to 270hz, as he stated on his Acer 270hz monitor review "this thing is fast, this thing is not slower than the 390hz".

Me, personally, I will wait for the TN 360hz monitors coming soon. For such high refresh rates we need something faster, and not borderline experiences that get awful experiences on certain colour transitions.

Sorry if I sound a bit mad/salty, but honestly I can´t have a better mood talking about 360hz monitors, after trying almost all of them and sending all of them back (pure hassle). These products are very expensive, I felt it was a total ripoff

[lizardpeter]

You are getting affected by the crappy non ideal pixel response time of these AUO ips 360hz panels. I don´t know a single pro player that made the switch to this monitor.

I would love faster response times too. However, one of the most used monitors by "pro" players is the Zowie 240 HZ XL2546K TN monitor. This AUO 360 Hz (390 Hz) panel has faster response times as measured by both RTINGs and Hardware Unboxed. Not to mention the better latency figures (by multiple milliseconds) and the massive 150 Hz increase (in the case of this monitor). I totally get where you're coming from and agree with you that we absolutely need faster response times though. I'd instantly upgrade to a new 480 Hz TN panel or some kind of OLED screen if they had some options.

[Notty_PT]

Rtings? Benq is measured without dyac, wich is what caters to use that monitor

If you go on Rtings search filter and put response times values, then order from low to high, you Will see even 165hz monitors beating 360hz monitors. They are far from the top units response time wise, with oled being on top obviously. Then TN.

Specially on dark colours transitions.

Plus remember, a 500hz with 4ms response time Will always seem slower than a 250hz with 4ms response time. The further the panel response time is from its "time for New pixel", the clearer it Will appear to your eles

I am sure all of the pros/streamers Will migrate to 360hz monitors when the TN panels are out

We can argue about input lag, but fr33thy measured Acer Nitro to be the same as Alienware 360hz monitor. Wich, acordding to rtings has same input lag as asus vg279qm 280hz monitor. I doubt the input lag difference is that big, altho I must say those reviewers use Ldat and Im not a fan. I prefer rtings methodology

[mkdp]

I really have problems in cs go to spot enemies compared to XL2540. Models do not stand out from backround somehow.
Everything so dark and colorless. Maybe the Zowie was the other extreme and I need to adapt?
Playing/aiming feels really good and I would like to keep the acer.
Can someone share settings for competetive cs go only?
Thanks

actual settings:
colors: warm
gamma 2.2
max brightness on+increased in driver
OD normal
OC on
VRB off
Blackboost on
Saturation increased in driver

Make sure to have the black boost on full 10/10. Zowie has a lot better black equalizer than this one. Even at maximum it does not match even the lowest setting on Zowie. Shame.

[nolikeee]

after 2 mounth im back on asus xg27aqm 270hz its faster (imput lag) on max overdrive then acer 390hz. im playing csgo only.

[lizardpeter]

We can argue about input lag, but fr33thy measured Acer Nitro to be the same as Alienware 360hz monitor.

I’m pretty such his testing was flawed. If you listen closely, he measured the latency at only 360 Hz. That’s why he got about the same (but still faster) result as the AW monitor. At 390 Hz, Optimum Tech measured it at almost a full ms faster than the ASUS 360 Hz (which is already faster than the AW).

[lizardpeter]

after 2 mounth im back on asus xg27aqm 270hz its faster (imput lag) on max overdrive then acer 390hz. im playing csgo only.

Do you have any numbers?

[adam_rtings]

lmaooo HP X24c 23.6" 16:9 Curved 144 Hz FreeSync VA Gaming Monitor is winning on votes for rtings. surely another vote manipulation scandal going on, right?

What's interesting about this monitor? Seems very odd. With 200€ msrp it's not even very interesting as a value proposition. 24" 1080P VA 144Hz 4ms.

someone is just manipulating votes to their crappy monitor they want reviewed, rtings voting system is very easy to mess with apparently

We already flagged this internally, we're looking into it.

[Discorz]

after 2 mounth im back on asus xg27aqm 270hz its faster (imput lag) on max overdrive then acer 390hz. im playing csgo only.

That is possible but im sure its not due to monitor it self. If u use a-sync and limit fps 390 could be harder to push than 270... different gpu utilization.

If we assume processing lag is the same as other 360hz monitor and it very likely is than it can not be slower.

I still cant believe some people play at max overdrive. Too much overhoot can make you play worse.

[Notty_PT]

I rarely use max overdrive settings too, but I did on the 360hz/390hz monitors, because I always felt something more was needed to pixel response time. So ended up using max values, except for Asus wich is unplayable at max settings.

I try not to be too picky, otherwise we enter on a rabbit hole, but when ghosting affects me constantly, I can´t stop noticing it. That was my big problem with 360hz

As for input lag, yes, they aren´t clearly optimized yet. Let´s take a look at Asus VG279QM for example. It´s a 280hz monitor with 1,7ms input lag according to rtings, right?

Then Asus 360hz PG is 1,6ms...
Alienware 360hz model is 1,7ms (same as the 280hz one)
The Acer and MSI models are even slower (2ms to 2,2ms)

You know something is wrong when you have 80 more refreshes (280 vs 360) and input lag doesn´t decrease.

Ofc we are talking about very responsive monitors anyway. Is just that mental thing of a 280hz unit being as fast or faster than a 360hz one. Imagine what a proper 360hz(390hz monitor can do, maybe 1,2ms, wich at that point would allow us to mix Strobing and FreeSync with a very little lag penalty.

Fingers crossed for the TN 360hz models

And after 360hz, I will not bother with IPS anymore, even if I wait for years. For 480hz I will only accept OLED or TN, because everything else will be a mess (as it is on 360hz IPS right now)