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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by Discorz » 17 Dec 2021, 08:44

Actually 3000+ pps speed is best for fast gaming demonstration, but at such high speeds capturing the ufo with camera accurately is very hard. That is one of the reasons why TestUFO is set to 960pps by default. I usually recommend doing pursuit camera at 960 so people could directly compare same speed results. And almost all pursuits you can find online are done at default speed.
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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by daviddave1 » 21 Dec 2021, 05:52

What do you guys think are the best settings? Overdrive and VRB both on extreme? Or Overdrive on Normal cause of overshoot? Anyone knows the difference between normal mode and overdrive mode on inputlag?
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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by lizardpeter » 22 Dec 2021, 00:35

daviddave1 wrote:
21 Dec 2021, 05:52
What do you guys think are the best settings? Overdrive and VRB both on extreme? Or Overdrive on Normal cause of overshoot? Anyone knows the difference between normal mode and overdrive mode on inputlag?
I can’t give you any objective measurements because I don’t have the tools to test with. What I personally use is overdrive on extreme and VRB off.
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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by paddyhhh » 22 Dec 2021, 13:40

RTSS cap on 386fps with freesync on is by far the best feeling I ever had for (competetive) cs go.
responsive und super smooth.
Better than ingame fps cap and AMD chill only goes up to 300fps.

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by daviddave1 » 23 Dec 2021, 09:05

VRB on 390 is super nice. not gonna turn that off. Im still \dubbin about the overdrive though..,.
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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by andrelip » 23 Dec 2021, 09:48

paddyhhh wrote:
22 Dec 2021, 13:40
RTSS cap on 386fps with freesync on is by far the best feeling I ever had for (competetive) cs go.
responsive und super smooth.
Better than ingame fps cap and AMD chill only goes up to 300fps.
Are they accepting RTSS in csgo? Faceit?

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by ditiy15447 » 23 Dec 2021, 21:39

Hekavan wrote:
05 Dec 2021, 06:56
Just bought this monitor and want to tell few issues for else to think about.

Im running amd system with 5600x and 6800xt.

My previous monitors are Asus pg279q 165hz 1440p(secondary), acer predator xn253qx 240hz 1080p.

I wanted to buy this acer xv252qf to test a 390hz monitor since im really competitive in games and I am playing apex almost every day on a high level. Also Im interested in tech so theres that also. I know 390hz is overkill on apex and fairly useless compared to my 240hz monitor which ive been using for gaming for a year now. I just havent been completely happy on the image clearness and quality on the xn253qx.

Straight from the start I was having issues on turning on the oc 390hz mode on since I have multiple monitors. Ultimately I was planning to use all three of them and start to use vertically the predator one. But seems like I cant get them working all together. If im not mistaken this is gpu limitation since the 6800xt has only two dp ports, one hdmi and one usb c.

390hz doesnt also work if asus pg279q has oc mode on which gives you the 165hz. So in the end I can only use asus oc off 144hz 1440p as a secondary and acer xv252qf oc on 390hz. Guess i need to sell my xn252qx if this new acer impress me enough.

Its a bit bummer to notice these issues right away but i guess its understandable with all the bandwith limitations and whatsoever.
But i just wanted to inform about this if someone else is planning to get high refresh rate monitors to use with multiple monitor setups.

The acer xv252qf hasnt impressed me yet in image quality, input lag and clearness performance wise but need to test more different settings. This thread had some good suggestions I still need to try out.
how good is it for apex in your experience? im currently torn between getting XL2546K or XG2431

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by StarWarsCoffee » 25 Dec 2021, 11:19

ditiy15447 wrote:
23 Dec 2021, 21:39
Hekavan wrote:
05 Dec 2021, 06:56
Just bought this monitor and want to tell few issues for else to think about.

Im running amd system with 5600x and 6800xt.

My previous monitors are Asus pg279q 165hz 1440p(secondary), acer predator xn253qx 240hz 1080p.

I wanted to buy this acer xv252qf to test a 390hz monitor since im really competitive in games and I am playing apex almost every day on a high level. Also Im interested in tech so theres that also. I know 390hz is overkill on apex and fairly useless compared to my 240hz monitor which ive been using for gaming for a year now. I just havent been completely happy on the image clearness and quality on the xn253qx.

Straight from the start I was having issues on turning on the oc 390hz mode on since I have multiple monitors. Ultimately I was planning to use all three of them and start to use vertically the predator one. But seems like I cant get them working all together. If im not mistaken this is gpu limitation since the 6800xt has only two dp ports, one hdmi and one usb c.

390hz doesnt also work if asus pg279q has oc mode on which gives you the 165hz. So in the end I can only use asus oc off 144hz 1440p as a secondary and acer xv252qf oc on 390hz. Guess i need to sell my xn252qx if this new acer impress me enough.

Its a bit bummer to notice these issues right away but i guess its understandable with all the bandwith limitations and whatsoever.
But i just wanted to inform about this if someone else is planning to get high refresh rate monitors to use with multiple monitor setups.

The acer xv252qf hasnt impressed me yet in image quality, input lag and clearness performance wise but need to test more different settings. This thread had some good suggestions I still need to try out.
how good is it for apex in your experience? im currently torn between getting XL2546K or XG2431
*after a little more time with the AW2521H I’ve amended my post below*

Just my $0.02 as I extensively tried both the XG2431 and XL2546K side by side in Apex for about a week. Both are good and both have their ups and downs.

The XG2431 had slightly better motion blur reduction on the UFO test than the XL2546K, but I slightly preferred the way the XL2546K looked and felt in game. The XG2431 had noticeable stuttering or double images at times when using strobing where I never noticed it with the XL2546K. The two higher settings on the XG2431 are rather unusable too with the amount of brightness loss where the XL2546K loses no brightness. However, I didn’t notice any increase in clarity past the Normal PureXP+ setting so the lack of brightness ended up being a non issue.

The XG2431 has too low of gamma and I could never tweak the settings just right to get it looking the way I wanted. This will be a very personal thing though. The XL2546K is way more customizable to whatever you need. The XL2546K had better colors and better image than the XG2431 (to me), but suffered from pretty bad ghosting/smearing when scrolling through text, which made it pretty unusable for me as I use my same setup for working and gaming. The XG2431 has a slightly higher PPI but it’s really not noticeable.

If you are only going to use the monitor for gaming and nothing else I would say go with the XL2546K. If you’re going to use the monitor for multiple uses then the XG2431 might be a better option. DyAc+ makes a noticeable reduction to motion blur without sacrificing any brightness and the monitor still is very customizable. The XG2431 is cheaper, still has excellent strobing, but is not as customizable and has worse colors for gaming.

Right now I’m testing the 360hz AW2521H as I think I am sensitive to strobing because the XG2431 specifically gave me a lot of eye fatigue and slight headaches. The XL2546K did not give me any fatigue. However, after testing I really am not sure that 360hz is worth it, especially in Apex where there’s a 300fps hard cap. It feels slightly more responsive than the XG2431 and XL2546K but honestly that’s probably just placebo. The motion clarity is super average on the monitor as well and you’re just not really getting any benefit from the higher Hz. I haven’t tried 240hz strobing on the AW2521H but not sure why I would. If I’m going to use this monitor like that then I might as well go back to the XG2431 or something.

That said the colors, image quality, and quality control on AW monitors always seems a step above the rest somehow.

After all this testing and gaming back at 1080p for a while I am more curious to try 1440p 240-270hz now. I’m not sure the 1080p monitors have felt as fast as I thought they might nor have they “wowed” me as much as I thought they would.

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by lyrill » 26 Dec 2021, 14:47

StarWarsCoffee wrote:
25 Dec 2021, 11:19
The XG2431’s strobing caused me noticeable eye fatigue and headaches where I didn’t get any on the XL2546K. Overall though I don’t think I care for strobing much as it’s not revolutionary at 240hz and it always adds a bit of input lag. However, I might be somebody who is more sensitive to strobing overall.

Right now I’m testing the 360hz AW2521H as I got two on sale for $350 a piece. I think 360hz is noticeable in Apex (I’m always at the 300fps cap with my 3080ti) and this monitor has an insanely low response time which does feel snappier than both the XG2431 and the XL2546K. I also like that I’m able to use it just out of the box and don’t need to fiddle with strobing settings and all that. I also can use this monitor for 10+ hours and get no eye fatigue or headaches which tells me either (A) strobing does something negative to me and/or (B) something with the XG2431 panel causes me fatigue.
strobing is indeed not ideal on current tech is what I gather from the feedback of people, in terms of whether everything is still backwards since crt(I wasn't around, can't speak from 1st hand)

And tbo again it being IPS and HDR capable is not appealing to people who don't watch a bit of the content on the side of gaming/already have 4k content monitor on the side, or even as a main (because work etc)

so I guess the point is what's next? people are selling 360hz monitors for less than 300 dollar MSRP now equiv, and u can get it as cheap as 230ish here.

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Re: Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

Post by bluefrisky » 27 Dec 2021, 00:52

Notty_PT wrote:
22 Sep 2021, 15:54
Zace wrote:
21 Sep 2021, 07:11
Notty_PT wrote:
21 Sep 2021, 06:31
forcedreg wrote:
20 Sep 2021, 10:23

So you're discounting his hard input lag data because of his preferences regarding blur reduction? All the while stating "390 hz has more input lag than 360 hz" as a fact even though it's literally based on your "feel" that no one here seems to share. Sound.
Afaik he didnt compare 360hz input lag to 390hz

Plus he is using Ldat wich everyone on this monitor scene knows is flawed

I only care about rtings input lag numbers because their methodology is the most accurate one and better translates to actually feel

And yes, I do not care about a reviewer that:

- accepts to play 144hz input lag levels on a 240hz strobed
- uses Ldat to measure input lag
- uses games like Valorant or Apex Legends to measure his aim

I mean, he is a casual. I rather take my own opinions and Quake players opinions.

Plus, you should not feel offended about someone else opinion. I have this monitor in front of me right now. I do not like it, I think it gets completly smashed by AOC 24G2Z or any other model using a matured 23,8' 240hz/270hz panel from Innolux. They are better than any 360hz model right now.

Let it mature and maybe things change.

360hz/390hz are not good enough right now Just like the first 240hz monitors weren't.

Plus imo the jump from 240hz should be 480hz

These are all my opinions, not the universal truth. If you like the monitor and you are doing well on your battle royale or overwatch type of game, great!! Most important thing is having fun with your devices. That is why we buy them right? :)
Your not sponsored by AOC by any chance?
Oh, Just because I like their particular model? Sure.. I was also sponsored by viewsonic 4 years ago when I heavily recomended xg2401...

I Just like matured panels, they have the best pixel response time and lowest input lag for the refresh rate.

Every 360hz monitor is rubbish, Acer nitro too. It is my opinion and trust me, I am not the only one.
This monitor has been confirmed to have the lowest input lag out of any monitor, multiple times. Not only that but it has the highest refresh rate recorded, and a pretty good pixel response time, one that can keep up with 360-390hz. It is also $350 at micro center, making it a no-brainer over any other e-sports monitor on the market, unless you really want DYAC levels of motion clarity and don't care about anything else. From my own testing, this monitor at 390Hz/390FPS constant with VRB on extreme feels a few levels better than the zowie at 240Hz/FPS with DYAC+ on. I can feel the smoother frames, lower input lag, and motion clarity is about equal simply because of the higher refresh rate and more than serviceable VRB setting. It's also cheaper and the colors on it are better than the Zowie.

You really just come off as a hater for the sake of being a hater, without having any data to backup your little feelings.

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