Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF

[lizardpeter]

I just got my monitor. Overall, I think it’s a solid improvement from my AW2518H. Display lag feels lower and the higher refresh rate is noticeable. However, is it strange that black frame insertion feels almost the exact same on or off? Is it because the refresh rate is already so high? I mean, I can see a slight difference on the UFO test, but it really doesn’t feel better or worse with it on or off in game.

[Discorz]

I have exactly the same experience. I don't benefit much from blur reduction.
https://blurbusters.com/the-stroboscopi ... -displays/

[Notty_PT]

I got the HP omen x 25f too. Xv252qf feels more responsive, looks smoother, and my overall stats in either comp PC gaming and ps5 are better. Like someone stated, if u played on a daily basis for over a month on the Acer, going back to 240hz feels like an absolute downgrade. To explain it a bit, with the Acer
I get the same results when Im playing relaxed vs full try hard hyper focused mode on the x 25f. You see clearly faster around corners, input lag feels like non existent compared to my omen, and im just straight beaming kids and making shots that was before really hard to do. (And I only play competitive games with 390+ fps, vbr and freesync off and overdrive extreme plus viper 8khz to fully get the max out of this screen).Dno about the monitor Notty is talking about, but i would not rule out that there are faulty units being sold. Flickering problems etc. Also for me input lag is way more important than a bit of "blur". And both these things are really subjective and differs per person. Enough pros who tried strobing, or any vbr tech and still turned it off eventually.

Thats because you are coming from a medíocre and old 240hz panel. Ofc the nitro is better

I am still waiting for the first guy on the Internet that uses AOC 24G2Z or ViewSonic XG2431 and says the nitro is better

Compared to old 240hz panels? Ofc... dude, at some point on this forum some of us actually went back to144hz/165hz monitors back in 2018/2019, when 240hz panels werent as matured

[1000WATT]

I use xg258q in fps and rhythm games. For everything else, the QE55Q80TA. When comparing xg258q vs 24G2Z. How are you doing with "aim hero lightning gun"? Is there progress?
The "aim hero lightning gun" has been a crucial test for me lately. Everything else ceased to matter.

[michaelcycle00]

I got the HP omen x 25f too. Xv252qf feels more responsive, looks smoother, and my overall stats in either comp PC gaming and ps5 are better. Like someone stated, if u played on a daily basis for over a month on the Acer, going back to 240hz feels like an absolute downgrade. To explain it a bit, with the Acer
I get the same results when Im playing relaxed vs full try hard hyper focused mode on the x 25f. You see clearly faster around corners, input lag feels like non existent compared to my omen, and im just straight beaming kids and making shots that was before really hard to do. (And I only play competitive games with 390+ fps, vbr and freesync off and overdrive extreme plus viper 8khz to fully get the max out of this screen).Dno about the monitor Notty is talking about, but i would not rule out that there are faulty units being sold. Flickering problems etc. Also for me input lag is way more important than a bit of "blur". And both these things are really subjective and differs per person. Enough pros who tried strobing, or any vbr tech and still turned it off eventually.

Thats because you are coming from a medíocre and old 240hz panel. Ofc the nitro is better

I am still waiting for the first guy on the Internet that uses AOC 24G2Z or ViewSonic XG2431 and says the nitro is better

Compared to old 240hz panels? Ofc... dude, at some point on this forum some of us actually went back to144hz/165hz monitors back in 2018/2019, when 240hz panels werent as matured

The YouTuber “totallydubbedHD” has tried both the AOC 24G2ZU and the Acer Nitro 390hz. I asked him what he thought was better and he said input lag and response time wise they performed identically, but that he did feel 390hz to be a bit more fluid. Go to page 38 in this thread if you wanna see what he said, I posted the screenshot there. I’m actually leaning towards the nitro a bit more now. I haven’t seen anyone else say the pixel response time of it isn’t fast enough and everyone says it’s super smooth and post clips of hitting lightning-quick 180 degree shots and stuff where the pixel response time would hinder them if it wasn’t fast enough and it seems that’s clearly not the case even coming from someone who has tried these matured 240hz panels as well as the Nitro.

[CJRS]

I doubt a 240hz monitor, raw without any vbr or variable refresh rate technique is more responsive and fluid than the Acer on 390hz with 390+ fps.

The 2546k is also considered latest TN panel, and people are obviously noticing a diff in favor of the Acer.

Maybe it is better in terms of ghosting, motion blur straight out of the box, sharper image on ufo tests etc. But like I said, if u prefer sharpness over input lag or vice versa, this is all subjective.

[lizardpeter]

I’m actually leaning towards the Nitro a bit more now.

I can tell you from my limited experience with it that it's really fast. On the UFO test at 1920 pixels per second, there's almost no visible ghosting at all. However, this is with my own settings and the known contrast reduction trick. I have the overdrive on extreme, the brightness at 100, max brightness on, black boost at 10, and contrast at 0 (increase this if you need it to be brighter).

I am alternatively trying overdrive on extreme, the brightness at 100, max brightness on, black boost at 10, contrast at 10, and BFI on extreme.

They are both very solid options. I am not sure which I like more. I will have to do some testing.

[lizardpeter]

I have exactly the same experience. I don't benefit much from blur reduction.
https://blurbusters.com/the-stroboscopi ... -displays/

What is strange is that I noticed BFI clearly making a difference on my AW2518H (I only tried it a few times for testing) even though it only ran at 144 Hz with BFI on and 240 Hz with it off. I feel like maybe the refresh rate of this monitor and its speed make the BFI less important.

[lyrill]

On paper this monitor looks great

But... never forget acer monitors always have higher input lag than their competitors

For example, asus pg259qn 1,6ms
Acer Predator 360hz 2,2ms -> similar to 240hz monitors

Paying 550€ for a 360hz/390hz monitor that is as fast as a good 240hz and slower than 280hz, no go to me.

Just before someone says "you cant notice", oh boy I do notice and why would I pay 600€ for a non matured product

That applies to 360hz monitors in general tbh

VG279QM is better imo, minus the fact it has 27 inches, not optimal for shooters imo

Great to see you back Notty. Also, there’s a guy here who was one of the first people to get this monitor back in like February I believe and did all proper testing (his username is lyrill, you can find him on page 22 of this thread). That aside, I’ve heard nothing but good things about this monitor from users who have upgraded from their 240hz including XL2546K users. And I don’t see how a 0.6ms difference in input lag could be perceived by a human but who knows.

haha ty no need for the shoutout if people noticed they know ;p

[lyrill]

On paper this monitor looks great

But... never forget acer monitors always have higher input lag than their competitors

For example, asus pg259qn 1,6ms
Acer Predator 360hz 2,2ms -> similar to 240hz monitors

Paying 550€ for a 360hz/390hz monitor that is as fast as a good 240hz and slower than 280hz, no go to me.

Just before someone says "you cant notice", oh boy I do notice and why would I pay 600€ for a non matured product

That applies to 360hz monitors in general tbh

VG279QM is better imo, minus the fact it has 27 inches, not optimal for shooters imo

Great to see you back Notty. Also, there’s a guy here who was one of the first people to get this monitor back in like February I believe and did all proper testing (his username is lyrill, you can find him on page 22 of this thread). That aside, I’ve heard nothing but good things about this monitor from users who have upgraded from their 240hz including XL2546K users. And I don’t see how a 0.6ms difference in input lag could be perceived by a human but who knows.

Hi

You can notice 0,6ms

I remember noticing 0,3ms differences between the top tier 240hz and 144hz monitors.

Fez years ago I said on this forum that I hoped rtings one day reviewed Asus VG245H 60hz monitor, because I had a feeling it was the fastest I ever tested (back in the day I played e-sports titles on console). After they reviewed it... bang.. fastest 60hz monitor ever (8,7ms)

I always noticed how Viewasonic xg2402 was fastest 144hz monitor (you can still find old threads with me praising it). Bang, rtings shown it was almost as fast as 240hz panels in that time

Trust me, you can feel input lag, the lowest the better

There is no other way. Generally speaking, the lowest input lag, the better, the higher refresh rate, the better. All as long as it results on better motion clarity and mouse input.

I am from the Internet era where 30fps was good for everyone, then our eyes couldnt see past 60fps. Then the "144hz to 240hz is useless and not noticeable". Been there

I refuse to pay 550€ for a 390hz monitor that is slower than 240hz models. But thats me

people who live in the gulag had to get with in order to survive, but when choices are available and you don't have all the time in the world to experience it all and compare, or experient on practicing your endurance with crap gear to boost your raw skill and potential, nobody would intentionally pick the worst one

these things are all overpriced electronics garbage in the end. I paid for it cus it was cheaper than the 360hz ones, simple as that. It was no surprise to me that the price dropped domestically and internationally(release dates I don't exactly know or care to pinpoint again), demands were just really low or none existent, they still kinda were after the price dropped (did someone say price came back to :normal:?)