[FIXED] Why 240fps on 360hz OLED monitor feels worse than 240fps on my other 240hz Oled monitor ?

[Akso]

Just switched from the Asus 240hz 1440p monitor to the AW2725DF 360hz OLED monitor from Alienware.

I try capping my FPS to 240 fps, thinking that with G-Sync it will butterfly smooth since I was dropping frames and having V-Sync ON.

It wasnt the case at all. It was jittery af. The game is Warzone 2 to be precised.
What was strange is if I use my Asus monitor, cap at 240fps too, it feels butterfly smooth.

Is it normal ?

[DeckOled]

I realized 2 things work really well with the AW2725DF so far…please note this is not testing just my subjective thoughts on playing CS2:

1) 360 hz set in windows and in game. gsync on in nvidia control panel, vsync on in nvidia control panel, no frame rate cap in game or in nvidia control panel. Made sure my frames are set to maximum in game. In game: made sure vsync was off and reflex +boost is on. Not sure if boost is needed as I’ve read mixed things regarding competitive shooters.

2) gsync off and vsync on in nvidia control panel. Capping frames to 240 in nvidia control panel and setting monitor to 240 hZ in windows and in game. This option is very smooth and consistent if you can’t hit 360 frames all the time.

I had a feeling at first option 2 would be better until I tried option 1 again and currently love it. Both are great though.

[DeckOled]

I realized 2 things work really well with the AW2725DF so far…please note this is not testing just my subjective thoughts on playing CS2:

1) 360 hz set in windows and in game. gsync on in nvidia control panel, vsync on in nvidia control panel, no frame rate cap in game or in nvidia control panel. Made sure my frames are set to maximum in game. In game: made sure vsync was off and reflex +boost is on. Not sure if boost is needed as I’ve read mixed things regarding competitive shooters.

2) gsync off and vsync on in nvidia control panel. Capping frames to 240 in nvidia control panel and setting monitor to 240 hZ in windows and in game. This option is very smooth and consistent if you can’t hit 360 frames all the time.

I had a feeling at first option 2 would be better until I tried option 1 again and currently love it. Both are great though.

[Chief Blur Buster]

Many monitors do not perform very well at under native refresh rate.

Alternate approaches:

1. It's better to use max Hz, and use GSYNC to have a "lower lag 240Hz" on a 360Hz.
GSYNC has fewer compromises if your uncapped framerate range is completely within your VRR range. Most lag complaints about GSYNC is framerate ranges that repeatedly go outside the VRR range. So new esports purchasers of VRR needs to purchase more refresh rate range than they need, so they don't have to cap, e.g. a 480Hz screen, since 100-200fps on a 480Hz VRR screen is delightlyfully much lower lag than 100-200fps on a 240Hz VRR.

2. If you need a fixed-Hz mode for any reason (motion blur reduction, etc), try using Quick Frame Transport tweaks, e.g. custom mode to do 240Hz refresh cycles transmitted over cable in 1/360sec. Utilities such as ToastyX CRU can achieve this.

[Akso]

Many monitors do not perform very well at under native refresh rate.

Alternate approaches:

1. It's better to use max Hz, and use GSYNC to have a "lower lag 240Hz" on a 360Hz.
GSYNC has fewer compromises if your uncapped framerate range is completely within your VRR range. Most lag complaints about GSYNC is framerate ranges that repeatedly go outside the VRR range. So new esports purchasers of VRR needs to purchase more refresh rate range than they need, so they don't have to cap, e.g. a 480Hz screen, since 100-200fps on a 480Hz VRR screen is delightlyfully much lower lag than 100-200fps on a 240Hz VRR.

2. If you need a fixed-Hz mode for any reason (motion blur reduction, etc), try using Quick Frame Transport tweaks, e.g. custom mode to do 240Hz refresh cycles transmitted over cable in 1/360sec. Utilities such as ToastyX CRU can achieve this.

I mean, when Im playing in Warzone, the game is running 200-250 fps but its juddery as hell. The input lag is a lot felt. Almost unplayable and makes me want to resell my 360hz OLED monitor.

Why everyone is advertising to buy this monitor when when you cant run it at below his native refresh rate (even with G-SYNC enable) it is a mess and unplayable ?
Ive had this issue with every single one of my monitor, makes game when running at refresh rate unplayable. Its only smooth when at 360 fps or near that number.

[Akso]

Many monitors do not perform very well at under native refresh rate.

Alternate approaches:

1. It's better to use max Hz, and use GSYNC to have a "lower lag 240Hz" on a 360Hz.
GSYNC has fewer compromises if your uncapped framerate range is completely within your VRR range. Most lag complaints about GSYNC is framerate ranges that repeatedly go outside the VRR range. So new esports purchasers of VRR needs to purchase more refresh rate range than they need, so they don't have to cap, e.g. a 480Hz screen, since 100-200fps on a 480Hz VRR screen is delightlyfully much lower lag than 100-200fps on a 240Hz VRR.

2. If you need a fixed-Hz mode for any reason (motion blur reduction, etc), try using Quick Frame Transport tweaks, e.g. custom mode to do 240Hz refresh cycles transmitted over cable in 1/360sec. Utilities such as ToastyX CRU can achieve this.

I mean, when Im playing in Warzone, the game is running 200-250 fps but its juddery as hell. The input lag is a lot felt. Almost unplayable and makes me want to resell my 360hz OLED monitor.

Why everyone is advertising to buy this monitor when when you cant run it at below his native refresh rate (even with G-SYNC enable) it is a mess and unplayable ?
Ive had this issue with every single one of my monitor, makes game when running at refresh rate unplayable. Its only smooth when at 360 fps or near that number.

After some testing on with the Animation Timing Deviation graph, Ive found out that Armoury Crate (Asus RGB Software) and L-Connect 3 (Lian-li RGB software) were causing stuter on the graph. Ive found out that after disabling all of their processes in the Task Manager.

Now. playing at 200 fps is butterfly smooth.

How in hell are RGB software able to do that ? Can someone explain to me ? Im about to resell all of my RGB thingy...

[Chief Blur Buster]

After some testing on with the Animation Timing Deviation graph, Ive found out that Armoury Crate (Asus RGB Software) and L-Connect 3 (Lian-li RGB software) were causing stuter on the graph. Ive found out that after disabling all of their processes in the Task Manager.

Now. playing at 200 fps is butterfly smooth.

How in hell are RGB software able to do that ? Can someone explain to me ? Im about to resell all of my RGB thingy...

RGB software is sometimes a stutter-plague at >240Hz

It can be designed efficiently (Some RGB software has no perceptible latency) but different RGB software unfortunately adds a lot of latencies, jitters, and stutters.

[Valleykid]

Hi I know it’s a late reply but I’m getting this monitor for a really good deal second hand and wanted to know if I wanted to cap to 240hz in windows to play warzone which I can get a locked 240 fps easily, will this cause any input lag because the monitor (aw2725df) is native 360hz? I looked at rtings but they don’t test 240hz unfortunately.

[Falkentyne]

After some testing on with the Animation Timing Deviation graph, Ive found out that Armoury Crate (Asus RGB Software) and L-Connect 3 (Lian-li RGB software) were causing stuter on the graph. Ive found out that after disabling all of their processes in the Task Manager.

Now. playing at 200 fps is butterfly smooth.

How in hell are RGB software able to do that ? Can someone explain to me ? Im about to resell all of my RGB thingy...

RGB software is sometimes a stutter-plague at >240Hz

It can be designed efficiently (Some RGB software has no perceptible latency) but different RGB software unfortunately adds a lot of latencies, jitters, and stutters.

Asus Armory Crate is the worst known bugfest bloatware existing on the entire planet.

[hart]

ehh I thought it was mental about this because I sold my old 240hz asus pg27aqdm time ago because I wasn't happy with the HDR performance, but I felt exactly the same

when I received the 240hz, I was like O M F G on games, and I was coming from an LG IPS 144hz 27GL850B. Days ago when I received the 360 months later, I was like "meh", I thought that maybe it was my problem because I already felt before the WOW effect so it wasn't something new for me, even if I used that LG 144hz in between monitors for some months. I was this days trying to get some time to make tests and I came here by chance, I wasn't even looking at the forum but looking another thing on google about gsync and wtf, ended here again lol

For me, what I've been able to play which is not much for the moment, it feels like it has stutter half of the time on games like hunt showdown (the main I am playing right now after receiving it) and nothing is as smooth as it was. I was gonna even format the system and start from scratch after not being able to deliver that previous smoothness with some DDU driver uninstall and AMD 3D cache drivers, etc. I was thinking also about blaming the game for a bad patch in between or even the 3 meter DP cable (which doesn't make sense but I still look at everything)

I need to do much more tests, but the feel that the 240hz was incredibly buttery smooth vs the 144hz and not this, I have it for the moment.

I do not have gsync enabled for any monitor as I feel the oled flickering a lot and drive me nuts, so it have no use for me, nor I had it on the previous AQDM where even games like LOL or Noita had an insane flicker with any kind of VRR, the computer is the same, a 7800x3d + 4090, same OS w10, and I do not have any type of RGB thing, nor bloatware, my computer is pretty clean, even if I install something like razer drivers, the first thing I do is booting "autostarts" and then forbidding the system to auto-enable those services without me doing it manually, and when I am going to run any game, I use a script to kill all of my productivity software, even things like thunderbird, dexpot or displayfusion, and stop services so the system doesn't have anything that I didn't approve running on the background while I game.

UFO tests, look completely fine, the games I've tried, not the same feel. I tried some fast things like limiting the fps to 345 with rivatuner, a bit below 3% of the max refresh rate, not limiting it at all, even lowering the 4.000 hz polling rate from the mouse to 1000+motionsync just in case it was giving the CPU some problems and testing the mouse with mousetester to be sure the polling was fine and not unstable, etc.

I still need to lose a bunch of hours making test to be sure that it's (as it should 999.999 times out of 1.000.000) a personal problem from my system or games and not the monitor, but I just wanted to chime in to say that just after receiving it, I shared that kind of perception.