important test | need your help

Separate area for niche lag issues including unexpected causes and/or electromagnetic interference (ECC = retransmits = lag). Interference (EMI, EMF) of all kinds (wired, wireless, external, internal, environment, bad component) can cause error-correction latencies like a bad modem connection. Troubleshooting may require university degree. Your lag issue is likely not EMI. Please read this before entering sub-forum.
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Re: important test | need your help

Post by internetexplorer4 » 01 Aug 2024, 18:47

Everythingblows wrote: ↑
30 Jul 2024, 23:52
this is mine lol. tried it a few times. the best one was after i did neck exercises
tyyy

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by internetexplorer4 » 01 Aug 2024, 18:51

DarkBlue` wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 12:00
Mine look like this.
What would you say Gentelmen? How bad is this on a scale 1-10?
tyyy, its looking pretty bad but tbh I thought this would be way more uncommon, so maybe thats actually common

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by internetexplorer4 » 01 Aug 2024, 19:05

Slender wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 18:21
emi / body not affect on mousetester graph. Im sure 1 billion %.
tyyy, you mean that the graph itself does not reflect our issues like input lag or floaty mouse, right? I was already aware of that before I start looking for people's tests. one of the first things I did when I saw that my graph was a mess, it was lowering my mouse polling rate to 125hz, as I did that I saw my graph was looking a lot better, however, it didn't change my input lag or floaty mouse at all.

so in fact, this graph has nothing to do with input lag, floaty mouse, desync etc. if the graph being bad is really because of the interference, then it is just another symptom, which I thought it could be, thats why I made this post. I found too strange that I was getting the same exact graph regardless the pc, mouse or place. now that I saw many people are getting the same kind of graph I might change my perception about it, but I still think it might be the case

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by Slender » 01 Aug 2024, 19:10

internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 19:05
Slender wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 18:21
emi / body not affect on mousetester graph. Im sure 1 billion %.
tyyy, you mean that the graph itself does not reflect our issues like input lag or floaty mouse, right? I was already aware of that before I start looking for people's tests. one of the first things I did when I saw that my graph was a mess, it was lowering my mouse polling rate to 125hz, as I did that I saw my graph was looking a lot better, however, it didn't change my input lag or floaty mouse at all.

so in fact, this graph has nothing to do with input lag, floaty mouse, desync etc. if the graph being bad is really because of the interference, then it is just another symptom, which I thought it could be, thats why I made this post. I found too strange that I was getting the same exact graph regardless the pc, mouse or place. now that I saw many people are getting the same kind of graph I might change my perception about it, but I still think it might be the case
if you get perfect delta like on my graph (1998hz-2002hz) you get better mouse control, smooth, stable, etc. It feel just better and you need that only if your fix "main" issue.
but if your mouse is "stopping" or "lagging", or drop freq to 500hz, that soft will show it.
for me i get perfect graph but it not fix. (that just good configure bios/os). You can stabilize it, but you need fix that judder image first.

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by internetexplorer4 » 01 Aug 2024, 20:35

Slender wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 19:10
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 19:05
Slender wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 18:21
emi / body not affect on mousetester graph. Im sure 1 billion %.
tyyy, you mean that the graph itself does not reflect our issues like input lag or floaty mouse, right? I was already aware of that before I start looking for people's tests. one of the first things I did when I saw that my graph was a mess, it was lowering my mouse polling rate to 125hz, as I did that I saw my graph was looking a lot better, however, it didn't change my input lag or floaty mouse at all.

so in fact, this graph has nothing to do with input lag, floaty mouse, desync etc. if the graph being bad is really because of the interference, then it is just another symptom, which I thought it could be, thats why I made this post. I found too strange that I was getting the same exact graph regardless the pc, mouse or place. now that I saw many people are getting the same kind of graph I might change my perception about it, but I still think it might be the case
if you get perfect delta like on my graph (1998hz-2002hz) you get better mouse control, smooth, stable, etc. It feel just better and you need that only if your fix "main" issue.
but if your mouse is "stopping" or "lagging", or drop freq to 500hz, that soft will show it.
for me i get perfect graph but it not fix. (that just good configure bios/os). You can stabilize it, but you need fix that judder image first.
I see, it would be interest if someone with a good graph like you, or even just an ok graph, could test on different pcs. imagine if you test on different pcs, bad pcs, and get the same good results, then we would know this is probably something

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by Yagami » 02 Aug 2024, 20:53

Could you explain if my values are good? I was previously using a more recent BIOS version for my motherboard (3404) and it looked similar to your image. Now, I downgraded to version 2803, and the result looks like this (same BIOS settings):

1st test:
Image

2nd test:
Image

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by Slender » 03 Aug 2024, 15:49

internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 19:05
Slender wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 18:21
emi / body not affect on mousetester graph. Im sure 1 billion %.
tyyy, you mean that the graph itself does not reflect our issues like input lag or floaty mouse, right? I was already aware of that before I start looking for people's tests. one of the first things I did when I saw that my graph was a mess, it was lowering my mouse polling rate to 125hz, as I did that I saw my graph was looking a lot better, however, it didn't change my input lag or floaty mouse at all.

so in fact, this graph has nothing to do with input lag, floaty mouse, desync etc. if the graph being bad is really because of the interference, then it is just another symptom, which I thought it could be, thats why I made this post. I found too strange that I was getting the same exact graph regardless the pc, mouse or place. now that I saw many people are getting the same kind of graph I might change my perception about it, but I still think it might be the case
if you set 125hz and you see graph is more stable, it shows cpu can't good initialize your usb controller.
but on this graph can affect all gpu / nic / sata / nvme (any driver).
fix your mouse freq only if your fix your input lag issue.

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by internetexplorer4 » 03 Aug 2024, 21:48

Slender wrote: ↑
03 Aug 2024, 15:49
internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 19:05
Slender wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 18:21
emi / body not affect on mousetester graph. Im sure 1 billion %.
tyyy, you mean that the graph itself does not reflect our issues like input lag or floaty mouse, right? I was already aware of that before I start looking for people's tests. one of the first things I did when I saw that my graph was a mess, it was lowering my mouse polling rate to 125hz, as I did that I saw my graph was looking a lot better, however, it didn't change my input lag or floaty mouse at all.

so in fact, this graph has nothing to do with input lag, floaty mouse, desync etc. if the graph being bad is really because of the interference, then it is just another symptom, which I thought it could be, thats why I made this post. I found too strange that I was getting the same exact graph regardless the pc, mouse or place. now that I saw many people are getting the same kind of graph I might change my perception about it, but I still think it might be the case
if you set 125hz and you see graph is more stable, it shows cpu can't good initialize your usb controller.
but on this graph can affect all gpu / nic / sata / nvme (any driver).
fix your mouse freq only if your fix your input lag issue.

yeah, I was not trying to fix the graph, I quitted trying any configs or tweaks after I realize how huge my interference was, and when something kinda works, it fixes like 5%, so its not worth trying for me, my post was with the intention to get information for further tests that I might do, tests which could prove the body interference without having to be gameplay videos

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by internetexplorer4 » 03 Aug 2024, 21:53

Yagami wrote: ↑
02 Aug 2024, 20:53
Could you explain if my values are good? I was previously using a more recent BIOS version for my motherboard (3404) and it looked similar to your image. Now, I downgraded to version 2803, and the result looks like this (same BIOS settings):

1st test:
Image

2nd test:
Image
you need to zoom it for we actually see how it is, you can do it with the scroll of the mouse, if you have good or bad graphs it won't change your gameplay apparently, but if you have a good graph, it would be interesting trying on different pcs if you have the chance, so we can see if maybe this graph is related to some symptom of the interference

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Re: important test | need your help

Post by DarkBlue` » 04 Aug 2024, 17:09

internetexplorer4 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 18:51
DarkBlue` wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2024, 12:00
Mine look like this.
What would you say Gentelmen? How bad is this on a scale 1-10?
tyyy, its looking pretty bad but tbh I thought this would be way more uncommon, so maybe thats actually common
I didn't mention that i do have the EMI/EMF problem, or whatever we call it.And it's pretty strong and unstable(definetely above average).That's why i joined this forum in the first place.

I assumed that all people replying here have the mentioned problem present lol.
Anyway, I'm going to take my setup to my parents place soon , and test if there is any difference there regarding all the interference stuff.I'm expecting the Mousetester graph to be much healthier.
I'll make sure to let you know about my observations.

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