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Which monitor to choose in a budget of $700?

Post by omnamo » 17 Nov 2024, 05:04

Good day, I ask for help.
In 2017, I tried to buy 2 IPS, but I returned them, my eyes hurt from them and my head ached.
My body could only tolerate TN, I have not tried VA and OLED.

Now I am sitting on XG2401 144 Hz, I want a new monitor.
I myself have looked at XL2566K and inexpensive OLEDs, but what should I choose, advise?

I work with text and a browser, it is important for me that there are no problems in this, I read that some OLEDs have problems with fonts ....

I play Delta Force and all different games from single to multiplayer, I do not always get 360 fps, but I plan to take 5090 for fps, so you can choose 360 ​​Hz with a reserve for the future.

My config is 7800x3d + 3080 ti

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Re: Which monitor to choose in a budget of $700?

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 17 Nov 2024, 18:10

Try out OLED, at least from a source with money-back guarantee (if it creates eyestrain). Like Amazon.

It can go both ways; OLED reduced eyestrain over LCD for me in many cases (Albiet I had to do some text adjustment).

The ~$700 budget league now buys you a 240Hz+ OLED during Black Friday sales if you're USA-side. Highly recommended.

The alternate is trying out the XL2566 series or XL2586 series, since it's a TN replacing TN, in a "go with what you're familiar" approach.

Higher Hz still helps low frame rates.

You get much lower lag doing 100fps at 360Hz, than 100fps at 144Hz. It's definitely a feelable latency improvement in lagfeel during triple-digit frame rates once you're attuned to it. Your 100fps frame is "painted" faster onto the screen. That's the faster scanout (the way a monitor paints a cable refresh cycle onto the panel).

Obviously, casually, you will not always notice directly, but once you're playing it hard, a 5ms difference is a 20 pixel latency during 4000 pixels/sec flick turns and aimtrainer effects. The math is: 5(milliseconds) * 4000(pixels per second) / 1000(milliseconds per second) = 20 pixels (of lagbehind for a 5ms increased latency).

Consider 144Hz is 6.9ms refreshtime, and 480Hz is 2.1ms refreshtime. That's almost ~5ms difference in refreshtime!

Even at mere 200fps or 300fps, that's enough to miss a headshot of a 20-pixel-wide head from muscle memory. You may not notice the lag directly but it goes into "huh, I seem to be scoring better" versus "huh, I'm somehow missing my shots" effect -- that's where it definitely clearly gets really noticed.
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Re: Which monitor to choose in a budget of $700?

Post by omnamo » 18 Nov 2024, 02:00

Chief Blur Buster wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 18:10
Try out OLED, at least from a source with money-back guarantee (if it creates eyestrain). Like Amazon.

It can go both ways; OLED reduced eyestrain over LCD for me in many cases (Albiet I had to do some text adjustment).

The ~$700 budget league now buys you a 240Hz+ OLED during Black Friday sales if you're USA-side. Highly recommended.

The alternate is trying out the XL2566 series or XL2586 series, since it's a TN replacing TN, in a "go with what you're familiar" approach.

Higher Hz still helps low frame rates.

You get much lower lag doing 100fps at 360Hz, than 100fps at 144Hz. It's definitely a feelable latency improvement in lagfeel during triple-digit frame rates once you're attuned to it. Your 100fps frame is "painted" faster onto the screen. That's the faster scanout (the way a monitor paints a cable refresh cycle onto the panel).

Obviously, casually, you will not always notice directly, but once you're playing it hard, a 5ms difference is a 20 pixel latency during 4000 pixels/sec flick turns and aimtrainer effects. The math is: 5(milliseconds) * 4000(pixels per second) / 1000(milliseconds per second) = 20 pixels (of lagbehind for a 5ms increased latency).

Consider 144Hz is 6.9ms refreshtime, and 480Hz is 2.1ms refreshtime. That's almost ~5ms difference in refreshtime!

Even at mere 200fps or 300fps, that's enough to miss a headshot of a 20-pixel-wide head from muscle memory. You may not notice the lag directly but it goes into "huh, I seem to be scoring better" versus "huh, I'm somehow missing my shots" effect -- that's where it definitely clearly gets really noticed.
Thank you very much, I just thought that 360 hertz has no meaning, because my computer gives such only in ks and valorant, and it turns out it is useful.

I will try OLED according to your advice, I have chosen such models in my country

360hz
Samsung Odyssey OLED G6
Dell Alienware AW2725DF - more expensive, but if I really need to find the money.
MSI MPG 271QRX QD-OLED or MSI Mag 271QPX QD-OLED - complain about broken pixels, stripes in black scenes and tearing when VRR is enabled

240hz
ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG
Acer Predator X27Ubmiipruzx
ViеwSоniс VХ2781
Msi mag 271 qpx e2

Models at 240 hertz did not write, because I think if you have the opportunity is better to take 360 immediately.

Can you advise something from the proposed models, maybe there is a leader? Or tell the exact model of not expensive 360 hertz.

Also offered me Falqon q7 thunderbird - do you know something about this model? It is not expensive at all and they say good, but I am afraid to take it because of VA matrix and that it is China.

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If I decide to take the tn, what is the best model ?

XL2566K
XL2546X

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Re: Which monitor to choose in a budget of $700?

Post by Supermodel_Evelynn » 20 Nov 2024, 11:28

^ OLEDs are far superior to LCD no matter what the marketing jargon behind Zowie is, LCD is inferior to OLED in every way imaginable.

As an Added Bonus ASUS has a Glossy WOLED monitor the XG27AQDMG which is superior to every matte coating out there.

Once you see the clarity of Glossy you won't touch matte again.

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Re: Which monitor to choose in a budget of $700?

Post by Inco^ » 21 Nov 2024, 13:53

OLED is not always superior to LCD in my experience, see my post here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12946&p=109400#p109400
P̶G̶2̶7̶A̶Q̶D̶P̶ >> 480Hz OLED (1440p)
PG248QP >> 540Hz TN w/ strobing
XL2566K >> 360 Hz TN w/ strobing
XV252Q F >> 390Hz IPS w/ strobing
PG259QN >> 360Hz IPS
XL2546K >> 240Hz TN w/ strobing
Y27gq-25 >> 240Hz TN (1440p)
AG251FZ >> 240Hz TN
LaCie Electron 22 Blue IV >> high-end CRT (140kHz horizontal)

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Re: Which monitor to choose in a budget of $700?

Post by RealNC » 21 Nov 2024, 15:10

omnamo wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 05:04
Now I am sitting on XG2401 144 Hz, I want a new monitor.
I myself have looked at XL2566K and inexpensive OLEDs, but what should I choose, advise?
You can use this as a starting point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDhYvlkXGw
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