Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
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This subforum is for advanced users only. This separate area is for niche or unexpected lag issues such as electromagnetic interference (EMI, EMF, electrical, radiofrequency, etc). Interference of all kinds (wired, wireless, external, internal, environment, bad component) can cause error-correction (ECC) latencies like a bad modem connection, except internally in a circuit. ECC = retransmits = lag. Troubleshooting may require university degree. Your lag issue is likely not EMI.
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cursed-gamer
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Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
After many years of trying to find the cause of my input lag and desync, I can finally state with complete certainty that I have discovered the cause. I no longer see the need to search for the reason in the Internet and will instead focus solely on attempts to minimize the problem as much as possible. If anyone plays PUBG, they know that these issues are especially noticeable in this game, such as dying from a single AR bullet, being unable to react in any way and having a choppy screen despite a high refresh rate monitor and high fps.
During one of my sessions in PUBG, out of curiosity, I placed my bare feet on the metal base of my desk and what happened? "Almost" perfect smoothness and responsiveness. I put my feet back on the floor, and gradually, the image quality deteriorated. I placed my feet on the metal base again, and the image was smooth once more. I usually play 8v8 DM, and before I discovered this, I couldn’t get a KD above 1. I was constantly dying and felt helpless. But since I discovered this "trick", almost every match, I have the most kills, and everyone else seems to have much slower reaction times, allowing me to quickly eliminate my opponents. Even the old PUBG veterans no longer seem like such tough opponents. This has lasted for the past week, and I could truly feel the pleasure of playing. I changed my playstyle from being sweaty noob hiding in a corner to being confident, constantly pushing forward.
The same day I discovered this, I grounded my entire desk to the grounding pin in the socket, and I can say that the problem only occurs to a minimal extent now, because I can clearly see there’s still room for improvement. After a week of enjoyable gaming, everything returned to the old state and I thought it might have just been a coincidence. I would have believed that if I hadn’t noticed that the crocodile clip had fallen out of the socket. After plugging it back in, I was able to play like before, and in my opinion, this only confirms my theory that it might indeed be related to the body, which seems to easily accumulate positive charges.
I noticed that when I come home and insert my key into the lock, I see a small spark, regardless of what I’m wearing. I asked other household members if they experience anything like that, but they denied it. I read a bit in the Internet about how the body can accumulate electrical charges, and everything started to make sense. It seems that my skin has an unusually high tendency to collect positive electrical charges, and its properties might cause it to have high resistance, which also depends on skin moisture. In my specific case, this would make sense, as my skin is always exceptionally dry.
If you're electrically charged, electrons will try to find an outlet through anything you touch. Following this line of reasoning, if you're touching a mouse or a keyboard, charges could accumulate in them (or on the cable flowing to USB port) beyond the normal level. A long time ago, I read a story online about a player who couldn’t figure out why his console controller was malfunctioning while playing FIFA. He bought new controllers, but each one had the same issue. It turned out that the culprit was the carpet he was rubbing his feet on while playing. Rubbing his feet on the carpet charged him up so much electrically that it had an impact on the electronics he was holding in his hands, which makes perfectly sense. Unfortunately, I can’t find that post anymore, but it has stuck in my mind.
To summarize: in my specific case, it was never the fault of the equipment I was playing on, the Internet connection, or Windows fixing tweaks. From the very beginning, I was the factor causing the issues in games. This makes the most sense, as I was only able to play well on equipment that didn’t belong to me (apparently, I wasn’t able to charge it electrically fast enough to immediately notice that something was wrong).
Solution: try conducting a similar experiment yourselves, and I recommend playing in conditions where there is the least chance of rubbing against anything ungrounded also including your clothes, doesn't matter if cotton or polyester ones. Additionally, skin resistance can be lowered by moisturizing it, so try that as well and feel free to share your feedback.
During one of my sessions in PUBG, out of curiosity, I placed my bare feet on the metal base of my desk and what happened? "Almost" perfect smoothness and responsiveness. I put my feet back on the floor, and gradually, the image quality deteriorated. I placed my feet on the metal base again, and the image was smooth once more. I usually play 8v8 DM, and before I discovered this, I couldn’t get a KD above 1. I was constantly dying and felt helpless. But since I discovered this "trick", almost every match, I have the most kills, and everyone else seems to have much slower reaction times, allowing me to quickly eliminate my opponents. Even the old PUBG veterans no longer seem like such tough opponents. This has lasted for the past week, and I could truly feel the pleasure of playing. I changed my playstyle from being sweaty noob hiding in a corner to being confident, constantly pushing forward.
The same day I discovered this, I grounded my entire desk to the grounding pin in the socket, and I can say that the problem only occurs to a minimal extent now, because I can clearly see there’s still room for improvement. After a week of enjoyable gaming, everything returned to the old state and I thought it might have just been a coincidence. I would have believed that if I hadn’t noticed that the crocodile clip had fallen out of the socket. After plugging it back in, I was able to play like before, and in my opinion, this only confirms my theory that it might indeed be related to the body, which seems to easily accumulate positive charges.
I noticed that when I come home and insert my key into the lock, I see a small spark, regardless of what I’m wearing. I asked other household members if they experience anything like that, but they denied it. I read a bit in the Internet about how the body can accumulate electrical charges, and everything started to make sense. It seems that my skin has an unusually high tendency to collect positive electrical charges, and its properties might cause it to have high resistance, which also depends on skin moisture. In my specific case, this would make sense, as my skin is always exceptionally dry.
If you're electrically charged, electrons will try to find an outlet through anything you touch. Following this line of reasoning, if you're touching a mouse or a keyboard, charges could accumulate in them (or on the cable flowing to USB port) beyond the normal level. A long time ago, I read a story online about a player who couldn’t figure out why his console controller was malfunctioning while playing FIFA. He bought new controllers, but each one had the same issue. It turned out that the culprit was the carpet he was rubbing his feet on while playing. Rubbing his feet on the carpet charged him up so much electrically that it had an impact on the electronics he was holding in his hands, which makes perfectly sense. Unfortunately, I can’t find that post anymore, but it has stuck in my mind.
To summarize: in my specific case, it was never the fault of the equipment I was playing on, the Internet connection, or Windows fixing tweaks. From the very beginning, I was the factor causing the issues in games. This makes the most sense, as I was only able to play well on equipment that didn’t belong to me (apparently, I wasn’t able to charge it electrically fast enough to immediately notice that something was wrong).
Solution: try conducting a similar experiment yourselves, and I recommend playing in conditions where there is the least chance of rubbing against anything ungrounded also including your clothes, doesn't matter if cotton or polyester ones. Additionally, skin resistance can be lowered by moisturizing it, so try that as well and feel free to share your feedback.
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DangerAhead710
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Re: Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
Can u please share a photo of your total desk along with how it is connected?
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cursed-gamer
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Re: Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
Honestly there is nothing to share, ordinary copper wire taped to the metal stand of my desk and crocodile clip on the other side of the wire clamped on the grounding pin in the socket.DangerAhead710 wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 14:41Can u please share a photo of your total desk along with how it is connected?
Re: Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
As it was stated in another post, air purifiers help with exactly this. This was a good read btw, I enjoyed it.
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cursed-gamer
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InputLagger
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Re: Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
I know that feeling from friends pc while playing csgo dm. Everyone and everything sooo delayed and slow, so I can see every enemy opponent peek from corners pixel by pixel on 60 hz monitor with ages of time to react for. Unlike my "1 frame for react" shit "gaming" experiencecursed-gamer wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 13:18But since I discovered this "trick", almost every match, I have the most kills, and everyone else seems to have much slower reaction times, allowing me to quickly eliminate my opponents. Even the old PUBG veterans no longer seem like such tough opponents. This has lasted for the past week, and I could truly feel the pleasure of playing.
Re: Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
the metal table leg collects interference from the wiring in your wall, then this rfi enters your PC through the wood. When you touch your foot to the metal part of your PC, and your metal keyboard / PC case, you galvanically connect the metal table base and the PC case.
the solution to this remains the same: you need to connect the ground at one point. Because if you ground the table, all the rfi dirt from the table going into your PC.
1) Connect pc/monitor to socet without ground.
2) Connect PC case to table metal leg.
3) Connect metal table leg to ground contract(or neutral)
This will ground your entire installation at one point.
BUT THAT NOT A FIX BECAUSE THAT IS EXTERNAL RFI, YOU CANT REMOVE INTERNAL EMI WITH THAT METHOD.
wt3121 help you with that.
the solution to this remains the same: you need to connect the ground at one point. Because if you ground the table, all the rfi dirt from the table going into your PC.
1) Connect pc/monitor to socet without ground.
2) Connect PC case to table metal leg.
3) Connect metal table leg to ground contract(or neutral)
This will ground your entire installation at one point.
BUT THAT NOT A FIX BECAUSE THAT IS EXTERNAL RFI, YOU CANT REMOVE INTERNAL EMI WITH THAT METHOD.
wt3121 help you with that.
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cursed-gamer
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Re: Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
that is fact.
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cursed-gamer
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Re: Final desync/hitreg fix with truly unexpected cause
Yeah that is fact man, I have interference from the wiring in every place I play, what are the odds? I can bet that you don't have any idea how to use basic measuring instruments in electricity, not to mention the oscillator. Everything you write about is just your guess. You have zero proofs about your theories, so be so kind and stop writing nonsense in my topic.
