CS2 at (budget) laptop in 2025 - a pure disaster
- Slender
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Re: CS2 at (budget) laptop in 2025 - a pure disaster
joseph, try to disable e-cores via msconfig or numproc
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joseph_from_pilsen
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Re: CS2 at (budget) laptop in 2025 - a pure disaster
This makes the things no better, the cs2 and system critical prpcesses dont use them as i have set it to not use it in process lasso.Without them the few background processes simply cant be delegated to e-cores and hog cpu more.
I also didnt find any difference with ecores enabled between the mode "performance core only" and " prefer performance cores" both giving very similar performance.
I also didnt find any difference with ecores enabled between the mode "performance core only" and " prefer performance cores" both giving very similar performance.
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joseph_from_pilsen
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Re: CS2 at (budget) laptop in 2025 - a pure disaster
So after 48 hours i turned the laptop on again and i noticed that valve released a performance hotfix. (few hours after i complained at reddit and mocked them as much as possible, coincidence? ) Now it runs better and even other gamers confirmed decent improvement. Of course, still not perfect but way better. The permanent red spikes are gone.
I made a short record how it runs now (from 3rd person view to get rid from annoying shadowplay input lag) https://youtu.be/81LdQOOskvc
Performance in FPS benchmark now:
Tuned - 4.8Ghz frequency, 0.12V undervolt, throttlestop used
[VProf] FPS: Avg=391.5, P1=173.5
Only lenovo vantage tuning - automatic frequency, 0.1V undervolt
[VProf] FPS: Avg=370.9, P1=156.5
Also difference between "prefer performance cores" and "performance cores only":
Performance cores only (e-cores enabled in process lasso but game should disable them on its own):
[VProf] FPS: Avg=391.1, P1=174.5
[VProf] FPS: Avg=389.7, P1=164.9
Prefer performance cores (e-cores enabled in process lasso):
[VProf] FPS: Avg=391.5, P1=173.5
[VProf] FPS: Avg=393.7, P1=166.9
Absolutelly no difference, margin of error.
I made a short record how it runs now (from 3rd person view to get rid from annoying shadowplay input lag) https://youtu.be/81LdQOOskvc
Performance in FPS benchmark now:
Tuned - 4.8Ghz frequency, 0.12V undervolt, throttlestop used
[VProf] FPS: Avg=391.5, P1=173.5
Only lenovo vantage tuning - automatic frequency, 0.1V undervolt
[VProf] FPS: Avg=370.9, P1=156.5
Also difference between "prefer performance cores" and "performance cores only":
Performance cores only (e-cores enabled in process lasso but game should disable them on its own):
[VProf] FPS: Avg=391.1, P1=174.5
[VProf] FPS: Avg=389.7, P1=164.9
Prefer performance cores (e-cores enabled in process lasso):
[VProf] FPS: Avg=391.5, P1=173.5
[VProf] FPS: Avg=393.7, P1=166.9
Absolutelly no difference, margin of error.
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BumFlannel
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Re: CS2 at (budget) laptop in 2025 - a pure disaster
themagic wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 09:44Finally someone noticed this too...and it's not even about map and graphics or details or skins...SKILLEN wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 09:34And this is for 3-4 min of deathmatch,after 5-6min fps drops even more( you can include AVG fps in the hud to confirm). People say its because bullet holes,they are probably right in some degree. Go for example 5vs5 dust2 ,uncap fps look at ceiling and see how many fps,after 5-10 rounds look again in the same spot and you will have lower fps and there are not bullet holes (because new round).
Also i can't make rivatuner hud to show in cs2 i have -allow_third_party_software in launch options and i add cs2.exe in the program ,but didn't work.
I can even confirm this decrease in FPS too and noticed it (happens mostly at respawns each rounds moments) or at halftime (mid match) and exact same happens in Valorant too...but the more you play the worse it then only gets for all the next Matches with this mystery FPS changes Ingame while everything seems to be default and same...like as example...you play map and after 1-2 hours you get exact same map again but FPS already like different and everything else by feelings and this shit is noticeable...don't know about many others and how they feel but there something going behind the scenes.
call me crazy and shizo but here a another good example from me...
1. You start Game.
2. Join Deathmatch.
3. Having crazy nice good Start and Run and already 10-15+ kills while all others just get there first 2 and 3 and 4 kills.
4. You get killed.
5. Respawn.
6. You get killed again.
7. Respawn.
8. And with each Respawn and Rekt it gets more absurder and you suddenly start to Suck and can't Hit nothing more and something start to feel very different from that point on...disadvantage and everything bad kicks in and triggered...
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This is my experience in cs2. 90% of the time it is horrible, I can't get my crosshair on target, enemies are inhuman fast peeking magnetic bullet firing never miss pros and it feels like the game is keeping me at 1kd artificially. No matter how fast I react or how well I aim, my shots just won't land.themagic wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 09:44Finally someone noticed this too...and it's not even about map and graphics or details or skins...SKILLEN wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 09:34And this is for 3-4 min of deathmatch,after 5-6min fps drops even more( you can include AVG fps in the hud to confirm). People say its because bullet holes,they are probably right in some degree. Go for example 5vs5 dust2 ,uncap fps look at ceiling and see how many fps,after 5-10 rounds look again in the same spot and you will have lower fps and there are not bullet holes (because new round).
Also i can't make rivatuner hud to show in cs2 i have -allow_third_party_software in launch options and i add cs2.exe in the program ,but didn't work.
I can even confirm this decrease in FPS too and noticed it (happens mostly at respawns each rounds moments) or at halftime (mid match) and exact same happens in Valorant too...but the more you play the worse it then only gets for all the next Matches with this mystery FPS changes Ingame while everything seems to be default and same...like as example...you play map and after 1-2 hours you get exact same map again but FPS already like different and everything else by feelings and this shit is noticeable...don't know about many others and how they feel but there something going behind the scenes.
call me crazy and shizo but here a another good example from me...
1. You start Game.
2. Join Deathmatch.
3. Having crazy nice good Start and Run and already 10-15+ kills while all others just get there first 2 and 3 and 4 kills.
4. You get killed.
5. Respawn.
6. You get killed again.
7. Respawn.
8. And with each Respawn and Rekt it gets more absurder and you suddenly start to Suck and can't Hit nothing more and something start to feel very different from that point on...disadvantage and everything bad kicks in and triggered...
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Then sometimes, my shots will land perfectly. I usually notice this if I havnt played in a while. I'll jump into deathmatch and destroy people. Be getting like 10kd in the first minute or so then even out to like 3 or 4 kd. This usually ends up with me getting vote kicked, or at least attempted to be, from the server when the game is like this.
Then it kicks in again. I'm dieing in an instant to full running enemies, no time to react, spawning between 2 or 3 enemies or enemies spawning right next to me or on the path I just cleared behind me with very low volume spawn sounds. I'll hit 1kd or very close to it after being battered down by complete bullshit from the same enemies, in the same match, on the same server, and then my encounter start to feel artificially distributed to be 50/50. I'll be able to easily kill 3 or 4 people in a row then I'll die 3 or 4 times in a row to absolute bullshit cos my reg sucks, spawns, fast peeks etc and it will keep like this finishing the game almost exactly 1kd. The amount I play DM and press tab and my kd is 1.00 almost feels paranormal.
Then in the next match on the same server, against mostly the same enemies on the same map I struggle to even break 0.5kd and have to work really hard to try to get 1kd. It will be like this for the rest of the session.
When it comes to competitive modes the game is 99.99% like the bad experience in DM. On csstats my kd had been exactly 1.00kd rounded, actual like 1.00x since forever until recent when now it's changed a little to 0.98x. my competitive matches are a terrible experience. 50% of the time I'm struggling to break 0.5 kd and finish at the bottom of the board with 50 to 55 adr and the other 50% I'll get over 1kd and 60 to 70 adr, still bottom of the board 80% of the time, 20% of the time middle or second to bottom.
Enemies DO NOT MISS ME. Across the map where spread is enough to completely fuck accuracy, let along coupled with recoil and targets being tiny, I will receive all consecutive hits from a spray, get multi dinked with pistols or smgs or non lethal headshot rifles, or 1 shot killed by ak, deagle, etc. dont get me started on the deagle. Every enemy spams it at all ranges and hits their shots with ease. It legitimately feels like bullets are magnetized to me while mine are repulsed from the target. In the same situations. Even if my enemy is stationary and unaware of me, watching a different angle and at a quarter of the ranges I get easily killed from I can try to tap them with the ak with lots of time between taps to make sure I'm fully accurate and miss 5 to 10 clean 1 taps at the center pixel of the head, even when crouching, just for them to finally react, turn and kill me instantly with headshots, even with the same weapon and obviously the same range.
I only solo queue now. My team mates will say I'm not reacting to enemies and just looking at them when on my screen I see their leg and Instantly die. I'll then spectate my team mates and their encounters last ages in comparisons. There are actually trades or gunfire, whiffing, screwing up spray control, multiple peeks, the enemies miss them all the time. Each encounter last ages while the same enemies in my encounters are ALL running headshot I stand reaction machines with insane accuracy at long range while moving.
I've had friends who I played the game with for thousands of hours outright say they don't want to queue with me anymore because Everytime they do their gameplay experience is horrible. It's as if they Inherited my shitty gameplay experience just from queueing with me. This has happened on at least 3 occasions with different friends and I fully understood their issue. For them they could go and queue without me and have a good experience where I couldn't escape my experience. It's why I only solo queue no, I have no desire to play with friends or make new friends because I end up just being a detriment to the whole experience and it's embarrassing.
I invited a friend to play CSgo once. He had never played a CS game in his life. He was destroying everyone with ease while I was just dieing to the same old instant death peeks with no time to react. He was talking about how he doesn't understand/like how the recoil works cos the bullets don't go to the crosshair. He didn't understand a single mechanic in the game so he defaulted to just tapping every single weapon he used. Pistols, smgs, every rifle, Negev, everything. And enemies were just peeking and seemingly standing their allowing him to tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap their heads without shooting back. It was ridiculous to witness. He finished top of the board with like 2kd and I finished bottom of the board with like 0.5kd.
I've played multiplayer PC shooters for 23 years. I have high mechanical skill. I am in the top 1% in things like aimlab for aim. Top 0.001% for reaction times with 130ms on a good day, 150ms on my worst days while drunk and had little sleep, yet every single person I come across in CS reacts faster and out aims me which never used to be a thing until it started happening literally overnight in 2015.
I can turn off all damage prediction, go through my gameplay recordings and count the frames between seeing the first pixel of the enemy and seeing first server Confirmed blood splatter and calculate say, an average time to damage of between 400 and 500ms yet leetify is telling me I had an average of 800ms TTD for that match. Even in matches where leetify reports my TTD to be 400 to 500ms, the best in the match and better than the majority of enemies by far, I was still dieing instantly to every enemy, including the one with almost a full second TTD. I can also have the highest aim rating. So lowest TTD, highest spotted accuracy, highest spray accuracy, lowest crosshair placement angle, highest counter strafe accuracy, all suggesting I'm reacting and aiming properly and have the best mechanical skill of the match. Yet I'm STILL bottom of the board with low kd and low adr and lowest actual accuracy (landed shots) of the match. Half the actual accuracy of the next worst accuracy player in the match who had half of my actual mechanic and aim stats.
I now have 10k hours in CS since the launch of CSGO. I didn't have any issues for about the first half of that play time. They started overnight about 10 years ago. I've spent £20,000 on hardware, switched ISPs multiple times, switched to ftth. No matter what I do the issues persist.
- themagic
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Re: CS2 at (budget) laptop in 2025 - a pure disaster
just watch and check this here...
I just picked a random stream from valorant which live at this moment. idk who that streamer dude is and i dont even care what rank he is but i see things that are never normal...
here a screen where his teammate already 22-6 around 5-3 round...
@3,66666KD

and here a screen where they lose this same match and his pro teammate who was crazy at the start only improved to 33 kills and die 19 times by the end @1,73KD and suddenly forget how to aim and hitreg at mid match...

i think no more words and comment or anything need to say to this more and just look at that face and emotion of that streamer...
i think i captured perfect moment of it
here link to stream...sadly dont know how to post with timestamp but you can scroll back aand watch that one match from start and how everything developed in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mtOvYW3bdk
edit: i just figure out that he radiant rank and i dont rly know how he get there and dont rly care but his matches dont look very different from silver ranks and even bronze streamers and gameplay mechanic wise and stats and everything...
https://imgur.com/a/tmDET0P
just pay attention to this all and compare with silver players that hardstuck forever and you will notice how everything is exact same bullshit but just at different rank pool and matchmaking happening.
but this streamer and similar "fake PRO players" probably gonna tell to others and teach them in chat and on reddit forums...that TRAINING and AIM matters and that everyone below is just a noob that cant play a shooter game with his TWO LEFT HANDS and just need to improve and git gud better and take a good sleep...so he can rank up even faster his EGO eeeeh i mean ELO
that how stupid and imbecile this world is in 2025 year and was already before and nothing changed about it.
many people lost there brain completely by this date...
i always believed that online players are smart in brain but it seems that many of them just NPC without commen sense.

you all can smell and see and feel the game sense and unparalleled skill and strategic thinking when watching this match and many similar ones
i can't see it...but it probably must be somewhere.....maybe im just blind and dont understand this rare "game sense" and "skills"
I just picked a random stream from valorant which live at this moment. idk who that streamer dude is and i dont even care what rank he is but i see things that are never normal...
here a screen where his teammate already 22-6 around 5-3 round...

and here a screen where they lose this same match and his pro teammate who was crazy at the start only improved to 33 kills and die 19 times by the end @1,73KD and suddenly forget how to aim and hitreg at mid match...

i think no more words and comment or anything need to say to this more and just look at that face and emotion of that streamer...
here link to stream...sadly dont know how to post with timestamp but you can scroll back aand watch that one match from start and how everything developed in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mtOvYW3bdk
edit: i just figure out that he radiant rank and i dont rly know how he get there and dont rly care but his matches dont look very different from silver ranks and even bronze streamers and gameplay mechanic wise and stats and everything...
https://imgur.com/a/tmDET0P
just pay attention to this all and compare with silver players that hardstuck forever and you will notice how everything is exact same bullshit but just at different rank pool and matchmaking happening.
but this streamer and similar "fake PRO players" probably gonna tell to others and teach them in chat and on reddit forums...that TRAINING and AIM matters and that everyone below is just a noob that cant play a shooter game with his TWO LEFT HANDS and just need to improve and git gud better and take a good sleep...so he can rank up even faster his EGO eeeeh i mean ELO
that how stupid and imbecile this world is in 2025 year and was already before and nothing changed about it.
many people lost there brain completely by this date...
i always believed that online players are smart in brain but it seems that many of them just NPC without commen sense.

you all can smell and see and feel the game sense and unparalleled skill and strategic thinking when watching this match and many similar ones
i can't see it...but it probably must be somewhere.....maybe im just blind and dont understand this rare "game sense" and "skills"
