Any consensus on 11 vs 10?

[ramonk]

I dont care about safety or support, if games i care drop it ill switch but does windows 10 have lower latency or not ? ive heard lots it does but in my countries language's communitry you cant know placebo from not. i tried searching but it didnt turn up any

[OostBlokBoys]

24H2 W11 is a hot fucking mess. However, support is ending for W10 soon. My advice would be to stick to W11 23H2

[Hyote]

I dont care about safety or support, if games i care drop it ill switch but does windows 10 have lower latency or not ? ive heard lots it does but in my countries language's communitry you cant know placebo from not. i tried searching but it didnt turn up any

Since I have personally stripped versions of both and I used them on and off for years I can confirm that 10 has indeed lower latency, but for some reason 11 can feel nicer and less stuttery in most games. However I still prefer 10 22H2 with all the latest updates.

[kyube]

I dont care about safety or support, if games i care drop it ill switch but does windows 10 have lower latency or not ? ive heard lots it does but in my countries language's communitry you cant know placebo from not. i tried searching but it didnt turn up any

It's difficult to give a general recommendation on which Windows release is better for an individual.
This paragraph might be beneficial for you: https://github.com/valleyofdoom/PC-Tuni ... ld-you-use

In general, since most users here seem to be CS2 players and they play faceit, you gotta stay on later Windows releases such as W10 22H2, W11 22H2 or W11 23H2
Considering the sheer amount of issues 24H2 reportedly has (although a bit exaggerated since most users don't do OS optimisations properly), it might be wise to stick to W11 23H2 instead of W10 22H2, especially considering that timer resolution got “fixed” (can be done with a registry edit) and the background polling rate change (helps high polling rate mice overhead)
23H2 also has better UI-editing support with tools such as ExplorerPatcher, so you can avoid the hideous UI choices they've done to cripple UX on W11.

Ideally, we'd stay on W7 for the least amount of OS overhead, but that comes with it's own complications such as:
- Lack of low IMOD rate (1ms, as opposed to 50µs of W10 drivers), unless one edits it with RWeverything & similar tools
- Lack of DX12 support (last W7 Nvidia driver is 472.12)
- Last GPU gen to support it is Ampere (only the earlier card releases, not the entire generation)
- Limited to 500Hz refresh rate displays (seems to be hard-limited, as per Chief)
- Software compatibility (most things still work, but there might be difficulties depending on use-case)
- Atrocious W7 experience on AMD (RDNA1 & RDNA2 drivers are very buggy, as per: https://old.reddit.com/r/windows7/comme ... ivers_for/)

I personally think Linux is not an option due to the severe translation layer CPU overhead which occurs, since most titles are optimised for Windows only.

There's much more nuance to this topic, especially if you have the expertise to do low-level driver & OS edits.
Maybe most of these things don't apply to you.

NVidia driver choice also matters, depending on Windows version (some drivers have more issues with the newer WDDM version of W11)
It might be wise to benchmark changes on your hardware using tools such as PresentMon and a in-game benchmark of choice which is repeatable.

Hope this helps.

[Misha1337]

I dont care about safety or support, if games i care drop it ill switch but does windows 10 have lower latency or not ? ive heard lots it does but in my countries language's communitry you cant know placebo from not. i tried searching but it didnt turn up any

It's difficult to give a general recommendation on which Windows release is better for an individual.
This paragraph might be beneficial for you: https://github.com/valleyofdoom/PC-Tuni ... ld-you-use

In general, since most users here seem to be CS2 players and they play faceit, you gotta stay on later Windows releases such as 22H2 or 23H2
Considering the sheer amount of issues 24H2 reportedly has (although a bit exaggerated since most users don't do OS optimisations properly), it might be wise to stick to W11 23H2 instead of W10 22H2, especially considering that timer resolution got “fixed” (can be done with a registry edit) and the background polling rate change (helps high polling rate mice overhead)

Ideally, we'd stay on W7 for the least amount of OS overhead, but that comes with it's own complications such as:
- Lack of low IMOD rate (1ms, as opposed to 50µs of W10 drivers), unless one edits it with RWeverything & similar tools
- Lack of DX12 support (last W7 Nvidia driver is 472.12)
- Last GPU gen to support it is Ampere (only the earlier card releases, not the entire generation)
- Limited to 500Hz refresh rate displays (seems to be hard-limited, as per Chief)
- Software compatibility (most things still work, but there might be difficulties depending on use-case)

I personally think Linux is not an option due to the severe translation CPU overhead which occurs, since most titles are optimised for Windows only.

There's much more nuance to this topic, especially if you have the expertise to do low-level driver & OS edits.
Maybe most of these things don't apply to you.

Hope this helps.

What is the timer resolution fix ?

[kyube]

What is the timer resolution fix ?

https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2020/ ... le-change/
Take a look at the github link I've linked in my previous post above, there is a discussion about it there with more sources if you're interested.

[JimCarry]

I dont care about safety or support, if games i care drop it ill switch but does windows 10 have lower latency or not ? ive heard lots it does but in my countries language's communitry you cant know placebo from not. i tried searching but it didnt turn up any

It's difficult to give a general recommendation on which Windows release is better for an individual.
This paragraph might be beneficial for you: https://github.com/valleyofdoom/PC-Tuni ... ld-you-use

In general, since most users here seem to be CS2 players and they play faceit, you gotta stay on later Windows releases such as W10 22H2, W11 22H2 or W11 23H2
Considering the sheer amount of issues 24H2 reportedly has (although a bit exaggerated since most users don't do OS optimisations properly), it might be wise to stick to W11 23H2 instead of W10 22H2, especially considering that timer resolution got “fixed” (can be done with a registry edit) and the background polling rate change (helps high polling rate mice overhead)
23H2 also has better UI-editing support with tools such as ExplorerPatcher, so you can avoid the hideous UI choices they've done to cripple UX on W11.

Ideally, we'd stay on W7 for the least amount of OS overhead, but that comes with it's own complications such as:
- Lack of low IMOD rate (1ms, as opposed to 50µs of W10 drivers), unless one edits it with RWeverything & similar tools
- Lack of DX12 support (last W7 Nvidia driver is 472.12)
- Last GPU gen to support it is Ampere (only the earlier card releases, not the entire generation)
- Limited to 500Hz refresh rate displays (seems to be hard-limited, as per Chief)
- Software compatibility (most things still work, but there might be difficulties depending on use-case)
- Atrocious W7 experience on AMD (RDNA1 & RDNA2 drivers are very buggy, as per: https://old.reddit.com/r/windows7/comme ... ivers_for/)

I personally think Linux is not an option due to the severe translation layer CPU overhead which occurs, since most titles are optimised for Windows only.

There's much more nuance to this topic, especially if you have the expertise to do low-level driver & OS edits.
Maybe most of these things don't apply to you.

NVidia driver choice also matters, depending on Windows version (some drivers have more issues with the newer WDDM version of W11)
It might be wise to benchmark changes on your hardware using tools such as PresentMon and a in-game benchmark of choice which is repeatable.

Hope this helps.

i dont get this most of the servers back in the day on csgo face it / volvo were hosted on linux,everyone is saying that linux is better for gaming,yet no one is making anti cheat for linux,can someone explain?

[drosku]

I dont care about safety or support, if games i care drop it ill switch but does windows 10 have lower latency or not ? ive heard lots it does but in my countries language's communitry you cant know placebo from not. i tried searching but it didnt turn up any

It's difficult to give a general recommendation on which Windows release is better for an individual.
This paragraph might be beneficial for you: https://github.com/valleyofdoom/PC-Tuni ... ld-you-use

In general, since most users here seem to be CS2 players and they play faceit, you gotta stay on later Windows releases such as W10 22H2, W11 22H2 or W11 23H2
Considering the sheer amount of issues 24H2 reportedly has (although a bit exaggerated since most users don't do OS optimisations properly), it might be wise to stick to W11 23H2 instead of W10 22H2, especially considering that timer resolution got “fixed” (can be done with a registry edit) and the background polling rate change (helps high polling rate mice overhead)
23H2 also has better UI-editing support with tools such as ExplorerPatcher, so you can avoid the hideous UI choices they've done to cripple UX on W11.

Ideally, we'd stay on W7 for the least amount of OS overhead, but that comes with it's own complications such as:
- Lack of low IMOD rate (1ms, as opposed to 50µs of W10 drivers), unless one edits it with RWeverything & similar tools
- Lack of DX12 support (last W7 Nvidia driver is 472.12)
- Last GPU gen to support it is Ampere (only the earlier card releases, not the entire generation)
- Limited to 500Hz refresh rate displays (seems to be hard-limited, as per Chief)
- Software compatibility (most things still work, but there might be difficulties depending on use-case)
- Atrocious W7 experience on AMD (RDNA1 & RDNA2 drivers are very buggy, as per: https://old.reddit.com/r/windows7/comme ... ivers_for/)

I personally think Linux is not an option due to the severe translation layer CPU overhead which occurs, since most titles are optimised for Windows only.

There's much more nuance to this topic, especially if you have the expertise to do low-level driver & OS edits.
Maybe most of these things don't apply to you.

NVidia driver choice also matters, depending on Windows version (some drivers have more issues with the newer WDDM version of W11)
It might be wise to benchmark changes on your hardware using tools such as PresentMon and a in-game benchmark of choice which is repeatable.

Hope this helps.

i dont get this most of the servers back in the day on csgo face it / volvo were hosted on linux,everyone is saying that linux is better for gaming,yet no one is making anti cheat for linux,can someone explain?

its 10000x easier to develop cheats on linux and way harder to make a GOOD anti cheat thats the whole reason here you go!

[JimCarry]

I dont care about safety or support, if games i care drop it ill switch but does windows 10 have lower latency or not ? ive heard lots it does but in my countries language's communitry you cant know placebo from not. i tried searching but it didnt turn up any

It's difficult to give a general recommendation on which Windows release is better for an individual.
This paragraph might be beneficial for you: https://github.com/valleyofdoom/PC-Tuni ... ld-you-use

In general, since most users here seem to be CS2 players and they play faceit, you gotta stay on later Windows releases such as W10 22H2, W11 22H2 or W11 23H2
Considering the sheer amount of issues 24H2 reportedly has (although a bit exaggerated since most users don't do OS optimisations properly), it might be wise to stick to W11 23H2 instead of W10 22H2, especially considering that timer resolution got “fixed” (can be done with a registry edit) and the background polling rate change (helps high polling rate mice overhead)
23H2 also has better UI-editing support with tools such as ExplorerPatcher, so you can avoid the hideous UI choices they've done to cripple UX on W11.

Ideally, we'd stay on W7 for the least amount of OS overhead, but that comes with it's own complications such as:
- Lack of low IMOD rate (1ms, as opposed to 50µs of W10 drivers), unless one edits it with RWeverything & similar tools
- Lack of DX12 support (last W7 Nvidia driver is 472.12)
- Last GPU gen to support it is Ampere (only the earlier card releases, not the entire generation)
- Limited to 500Hz refresh rate displays (seems to be hard-limited, as per Chief)
- Software compatibility (most things still work, but there might be difficulties depending on use-case)
- Atrocious W7 experience on AMD (RDNA1 & RDNA2 drivers are very buggy, as per: https://old.reddit.com/r/windows7/comme ... ivers_for/)

I personally think Linux is not an option due to the severe translation layer CPU overhead which occurs, since most titles are optimised for Windows only.

There's much more nuance to this topic, especially if you have the expertise to do low-level driver & OS edits.
Maybe most of these things don't apply to you.

NVidia driver choice also matters, depending on Windows version (some drivers have more issues with the newer WDDM version of W11)
It might be wise to benchmark changes on your hardware using tools such as PresentMon and a in-game benchmark of choice which is repeatable.

Hope this helps.

i dont get this most of the servers back in the day on csgo face it / volvo were hosted on linux,everyone is saying that linux is better for gaming,yet no one is making anti cheat for linux,can someone explain?

its 10000x easier to develop cheats on linux and way harder to make a GOOD anti cheat thats the whole reason here you go!

my account on steam is from 2008 i play cs from 99 even then there was cheaters, and now there is cheaters in every game how bad can it be? and i dont talk about mm premier even in face it its full of cheaters not spinbots like in mm but still,i play since the era of icewrold rats etc,even back there there was cheats,i dont see how can it be worse.

[drosku]

It's difficult to give a general recommendation on which Windows release is better for an individual.
This paragraph might be beneficial for you: https://github.com/valleyofdoom/PC-Tuni ... ld-you-use

In general, since most users here seem to be CS2 players and they play faceit, you gotta stay on later Windows releases such as W10 22H2, W11 22H2 or W11 23H2
Considering the sheer amount of issues 24H2 reportedly has (although a bit exaggerated since most users don't do OS optimisations properly), it might be wise to stick to W11 23H2 instead of W10 22H2, especially considering that timer resolution got “fixed” (can be done with a registry edit) and the background polling rate change (helps high polling rate mice overhead)
23H2 also has better UI-editing support with tools such as ExplorerPatcher, so you can avoid the hideous UI choices they've done to cripple UX on W11.

Ideally, we'd stay on W7 for the least amount of OS overhead, but that comes with it's own complications such as:
- Lack of low IMOD rate (1ms, as opposed to 50µs of W10 drivers), unless one edits it with RWeverything & similar tools
- Lack of DX12 support (last W7 Nvidia driver is 472.12)
- Last GPU gen to support it is Ampere (only the earlier card releases, not the entire generation)
- Limited to 500Hz refresh rate displays (seems to be hard-limited, as per Chief)
- Software compatibility (most things still work, but there might be difficulties depending on use-case)
- Atrocious W7 experience on AMD (RDNA1 & RDNA2 drivers are very buggy, as per: https://old.reddit.com/r/windows7/comme ... ivers_for/)

I personally think Linux is not an option due to the severe translation layer CPU overhead which occurs, since most titles are optimised for Windows only.

There's much more nuance to this topic, especially if you have the expertise to do low-level driver & OS edits.
Maybe most of these things don't apply to you.

NVidia driver choice also matters, depending on Windows version (some drivers have more issues with the newer WDDM version of W11)
It might be wise to benchmark changes on your hardware using tools such as PresentMon and a in-game benchmark of choice which is repeatable.

Hope this helps.

i dont get this most of the servers back in the day on csgo face it / volvo were hosted on linux,everyone is saying that linux is better for gaming,yet no one is making anti cheat for linux,can someone explain?

its 10000x easier to develop cheats on linux and way harder to make a GOOD anti cheat thats the whole reason here you go!

my account on steam is from 2008 i play cs from 99 even then there was cheaters, and now there is cheaters in every game how bad can it be? and i dont talk about mm premier even in face it its full of cheaters not spinbots like in mm but still,i play since the era of icewrold rats etc,even back there there was cheats,i dont see how can it be worse.

no like for the “good” anticheats i mean deep kernel level lol they can still be bypassed on windows with not that much trouble but linux gives u total freedom all these secure boot tpm etc on windows is just “protection” and scanning that anticheat rely on a surface level
just cheating will be even more prevelent on linux i mean normal cs works on linux but faceit,val nah they need full acces+safety guards from windows but in reality even i play radiant/im3 lobbies on val i get rr refund every couple of days