anything i haven't tried ?

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krash
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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by krash » 18 Apr 2025, 12:43

kyube wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 09:10
krash wrote:
17 Apr 2025, 19:25
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these r the old rams im kinda lazy to stick the new ones in again since it's fine now after using 23h2 & 551.23 & old rams
i don't think process lasso has an issue since i'm just lowering certain things priority and removing foreground boosting from cs2
and i think i'll pass on buying anything for the laptop atm
disabling iGPU isn't an option i've tried it and had to reset bios
Thank you for posting.
It's great to see that your laptop doesn't apply any XMP, which can cause instabilities.
ProcessLasso's driver causes SW overhead, taking up CPU cycles unnecessarily.
You can do affinity changes without relying on ProcessLasso for that, resulting in gained performance.

However, what caught my attention is this:
krash wrote:
17 Apr 2025, 19:42
just test and revert avoid big regedit files or utility tweaks like exm if u want anything from them just open the .bat as a notepad and find it
avoid using XOS if you're running custom ISOs. my friend and I used to use XOS, but after trying other options, we realized how noticeably stuttery it was in comparison.
here are the versions we had issues with (and earlier ones too), just listing them here in case things get fixed in future updates.
XOS W11 - 012 - 23H2
XOS W11 - 012 - 24H2
ur never fixing "floaty mouse" just find a good ground you can get used to
i personally untick my "usb host controllers" in msi util and drag out or delete "xinput1_3.dll" from system32
i would be down to drop everything i kept on using but alot would ask for benchmarks and ignore if the game actually felt different
not everything that changes how ur game feels is better some turn out to make it worse but u just think "different = better"
Using a custom OS in general is detrimental to performance, not beneficial.
You can easily make your own installation by following the resources I've linked in my previous post (PC-tuning has a .reg file which you run after installing a stock Windows ISO)
"Floaty mouse" is very fixable. It's not a casper ghost hunting journey. It's a matter of proper HW & SW optimisation practices, which have substantiated, verifiable & repeatable testing data to back the claims up.

Deleting that specific file you've mentioned has no basis & proven benefits. I assume you've come across some anecdote that it helps and you've placebo'd yourself that it does something.
Disabling MSI-mode on your USB controller results in worse DPC/ISR driver performance, it's recommended to avoid doing so.

It seems to me that your issue might be rooted in SW optimisations. That is, you're applying "tweaks" which cause performance loss and not performance benefits.
I use Process lasso to exclude cs2 from foreground boosting can u tell me how to do that via registery ?

I'm using custom OS installs to skip some of the setup steps sure, I could do clean installs and manually tweak everything, but this method works just fine for me.

regarding the "floaty mouse" issue, that was just my personal experience. If others have managed to fix it, that's great to hear and would like to see a guide.

as for MSI mode, it behaved better for me when unticked, but I’ll test both on and off over a few sessions to think if i want the better benchmarks or behavior

removing that file just changed the mouse behavior in a way I personally preferred nothing more.

and there's not much u can do HW wise to this laptop everything bricks when u change bios

the stuff i apply aren't usually aimed towards performance or changing much it's usually really generic stuff
MouseSmoothingX&Y changes
M&K DataQueueSize
PreRenderedFrames
and anything that's just fine to change

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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by JimCarry » 18 Apr 2025, 19:51

Bobo wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 10:26
Go into the bios and max out the voltages for VCCIO and VCCSA. in my mobo they max out at 1.4 and 1.3.
brother i use to do this on my intel pc,but on amd is there such magik?

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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by JimCarry » 18 Apr 2025, 19:55

krash wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 12:43
kyube wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 09:10
krash wrote:
17 Apr 2025, 19:25
b1.pnga1.png
these r the old rams im kinda lazy to stick the new ones in again since it's fine now after using 23h2 & 551.23 & old rams
i don't think process lasso has an issue since i'm just lowering certain things priority and removing foreground boosting from cs2
and i think i'll pass on buying anything for the laptop atm
disabling iGPU isn't an option i've tried it and had to reset bios
Thank you for posting.
It's great to see that your laptop doesn't apply any XMP, which can cause instabilities.
ProcessLasso's driver causes SW overhead, taking up CPU cycles unnecessarily.
You can do affinity changes without relying on ProcessLasso for that, resulting in gained performance.

However, what caught my attention is this:
krash wrote:
17 Apr 2025, 19:42
just test and revert avoid big regedit files or utility tweaks like exm if u want anything from them just open the .bat as a notepad and find it
avoid using XOS if you're running custom ISOs. my friend and I used to use XOS, but after trying other options, we realized how noticeably stuttery it was in comparison.
here are the versions we had issues with (and earlier ones too), just listing them here in case things get fixed in future updates.
XOS W11 - 012 - 23H2
XOS W11 - 012 - 24H2
ur never fixing "floaty mouse" just find a good ground you can get used to
i personally untick my "usb host controllers" in msi util and drag out or delete "xinput1_3.dll" from system32
i would be down to drop everything i kept on using but alot would ask for benchmarks and ignore if the game actually felt different
not everything that changes how ur game feels is better some turn out to make it worse but u just think "different = better"
Using a custom OS in general is detrimental to performance, not beneficial.
You can easily make your own installation by following the resources I've linked in my previous post (PC-tuning has a .reg file which you run after installing a stock Windows ISO)
"Floaty mouse" is very fixable. It's not a casper ghost hunting journey. It's a matter of proper HW & SW optimisation practices, which have substantiated, verifiable & repeatable testing data to back the claims up.

Deleting that specific file you've mentioned has no basis & proven benefits. I assume you've come across some anecdote that it helps and you've placebo'd yourself that it does something.
Disabling MSI-mode on your USB controller results in worse DPC/ISR driver performance, it's recommended to avoid doing so.

It seems to me that your issue might be rooted in SW optimisations. That is, you're applying "tweaks" which cause performance loss and not performance benefits.
I use Process lasso to exclude cs2 from foreground boosting can u tell me how to do that via registery ?

I'm using custom OS installs to skip some of the setup steps sure, I could do clean installs and manually tweak everything, but this method works just fine for me.

regarding the "floaty mouse" issue, that was just my personal experience. If others have managed to fix it, that's great to hear and would like to see a guide.

as for MSI mode, it behaved better for me when unticked, but I’ll test both on and off over a few sessions to think if i want the better benchmarks or behavior

removing that file just changed the mouse behavior in a way I personally preferred nothing more.

and there's not much u can do HW wise to this laptop everything bricks when u change bios

the stuff i apply aren't usually aimed towards performance or changing much it's usually really generic stuff
MouseSmoothingX&Y changes
M&K DataQueueSize
PreRenderedFrames
and anything that's just fine to change
brother i will give one advice please listen to me,i have changed many mouses,zowie, razer, now i have op1 8k,please dont use "M&K DataQueueSize" go and delete them,restart pc play and come tell me please,if you still like it then f@ck it,change mouse dqs to 16 and keyboard do 3.this is how i use to play but i remove this tweak.

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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by Syykfk » 19 Apr 2025, 00:16

I am the same as you, but I am playing Valorant and I am deeply troubled by desync. However, I have found some useful solutions that can partially solve desync for me. I am sharing them with you here, please give me your feedback so that I can confirm if they are placebo.

1.Attempt BCD modification
bcdedit /set disabledynamictick no
bcdedit /set x2apicpolicy disable
bcdedit /set bootmenupolicy Legacy
bcdedit /set bootux Disabled
bcdedit /set quietboot yes
bcdedit /set usephysicaldestination no
bcdedit /set uselegacyapicmode yes
for:viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13284&p=110635&hil ... ck#p110635
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13775&p=107604&hil ... pe#p107604

2.Change to display zoom in the Nvidia control panel without selecting the option to override zoom modes set by games and programs

3.In MSI_util-v3, turn off the MSI mode of the network adapter and leave its limit blank
I have no input lag, currently mainly researching desync.

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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by JimCarry » 19 Apr 2025, 00:43

Syykfk wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 00:16
I am the same as you, but I am playing Valorant and I am deeply troubled by desync. However, I have found some useful solutions that can partially solve desync for me. I am sharing them with you here, please give me your feedback so that I can confirm if they are placebo.

1.Attempt BCD modification
bcdedit /set disabledynamictick no
bcdedit /set x2apicpolicy disable
bcdedit /set bootmenupolicy Legacy
bcdedit /set bootux Disabled
bcdedit /set quietboot yes
bcdedit /set usephysicaldestination no
bcdedit /set uselegacyapicmode yes
for:viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13284&p=110635&hil ... ck#p110635
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13775&p=107604&hil ... pe#p107604

2.Change to display zoom in the Nvidia control panel without selecting the option to override zoom modes set by games and programs

3.In MSI_util-v3, turn off the MSI mode of the network adapter and leave its limit blank
1.i dont use bcdedit on my win 10
2. i dont have nvdia
3. can you upload screen of yours ?
4.i dont play valorant
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krash
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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by krash » 19 Apr 2025, 04:23

JimCarry wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 19:55
brother i will give one advice please listen to me,i have changed many mouses,zowie, razer, now i have op1 8k,please dont use "M&K DataQueueSize" go and delete them,restart pc play and come tell me please,if you still like it then f@ck it,change mouse dqs to 16 and keyboard do 3.this is how i use to play but i remove this tweak.
I’ve been using both on 54 and it’s been working just fine for me. I’ll give 16 a try though.
What didn’t you like about it?

my clicks would be just better with it

If you play CS2, try going to a map that has something to emulate peeks. keep your mouse really close to the angle I’ve been landing more shots with it.
without it my bullets usually feel little delayed.

I’m not really a mouse hopper I stick with my ULX. but I do like how the clicks feel on the GX Speed Mode with OP1 8k.

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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by krash » 19 Apr 2025, 04:25

Syykfk wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 00:16
I am the same as you, but I am playing Valorant and I am deeply troubled by desync. However, I have found some useful solutions that can partially solve desync for me. I am sharing them with you here, please give me your feedback so that I can confirm if they are placebo.

1.Attempt BCD modification
bcdedit /set disabledynamictick no
bcdedit /set x2apicpolicy disable
bcdedit /set bootmenupolicy Legacy
bcdedit /set bootux Disabled
bcdedit /set quietboot yes
bcdedit /set usephysicaldestination no
bcdedit /set uselegacyapicmode yes
for:viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13284&p=110635&hil ... ck#p110635
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13775&p=107604&hil ... pe#p107604

2.Change to display zoom in the Nvidia control panel without selecting the option to override zoom modes set by games and programs

3.In MSI_util-v3, turn off the MSI mode of the network adapter and leave its limit blank
i think i have most of those already applied

and when i played valorant everything was already slow whats ur desync about, bullets ? i don't have a problem in that department (hitreg)

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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by JimCarry » 19 Apr 2025, 14:47

krash wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 04:23
JimCarry wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 19:55
brother i will give one advice please listen to me,i have changed many mouses,zowie, razer, now i have op1 8k,please dont use "M&K DataQueueSize" go and delete them,restart pc play and come tell me please,if you still like it then f@ck it,change mouse dqs to 16 and keyboard do 3.this is how i use to play but i remove this tweak.
I’ve been using both on 54 and it’s been working just fine for me. I’ll give 16 a try though.
What didn’t you like about it?

my clicks would be just better with it

If you play CS2, try going to a map that has something to emulate peeks. keep your mouse really close to the angle I’ve been landing more shots with it.
without it my bullets usually feel little delayed.

I’m not really a mouse hopper I stick with my ULX. but I do like how the clicks feel on the GX Speed Mode with OP1 8k.
yes the mouse feel better with these tweaks but when you are using them there is fps drops,so even my avg is 560 fps,and i use even lower values then you 49 times,still i remove it,many people tell me that once i show them this tweak they did beat their aim record,or the mouse feels instant and smooth,also first time i use it there is night and day diffrence but still remove it,i dont know what ULX is but i also use the op1 8k with the gx speed mode on,my cs acc is probably older then you but its your choise,at least if you gonna use them do mouse 16hexa and keyboard 3hexa 3 deci

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Re: anything i haven't tried ?

Post by Misha1337 » 26 Apr 2025, 18:56

dermodemon wrote:
16 Apr 2025, 09:08
krash wrote:
16 Apr 2025, 08:51
Long story short, I’ve fixed my input lag, but now I’m dealing with something worse "desync/backtrack". My friends can shoot enemies that are already gone on my screen or not on my screen *not a common occurrence*. I don’t really feel like recording or uploading clips of it happening ˡᵃᶻʸ, but I’m down to test any "magical" regedit or tweak that might help as long as it’s not just a bunch of unrelated stuff thrown together.

15 ms
my friends are 30 - 40 ms
avg ping on the server is 50 not rare to find 10ish range players

game: cs2

things i tried

-any netsh edits like
Enable/Disable RSS *stayed on enable*
global autotuninglevel=disable/normal*slightly favouring normal*

-tried changing bcdedit *some complained about hitreg getting worse on a setting that i found my hits were more accurate maybe people were bad at spraying*

-gpedit.msc stuff
QoS Packet Scheduler set timer resolution to 0 *made people way faster than usual some peeks i don't see the players*

-nic stuff
realtek drivers from my motherboard
realtek drivers with netadaptercx *motherboard one was causing me less jitters*

-msi util v3
unticking my realtek & gpu *kept both on, keeping one on/off was a little odd*

-disabled UPnP

-dscp 46 bla bla bla

the only thing that made my game somewhat decent is using 1 tick buffer from cs settings *try this and give feedback maybe?*

anything that could stabilize or fix jitters just write it i guess
i tried many different network cards. but the best for me is TP-Link UE300 USB dongle. I literally can hold angles now. But let windows install the drivers and disable any energy saving features

I can only find the one that is using USB C connect not the A one TP-Link UE300C will it work the same ?

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