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burner
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RSS ?

Post by burner » 13 Feb 2025, 17:28

Hi. I am not that tech knowledgeable even tho i have been around PCs since i was 5. Around 30 days ago i got addicted, quite literally addicted to everything relating input lag & latency. The lower the number on latency mon(even tho as i understand its not that accurate when it comes to measuring real time ISR/DPC Latency?) and better the feel in game the better. In these last 30 days i have bricked the OS maybe 10? to 15? times. All by blindly applying tweaks and trying to fix, hoping it would provide me a miracle 0 ms response time, hand to eye coordination , etc.. Of course didnt work.. After those 15 times i have gotten serious about being responsible and right now i have a dual boot of a copy of my current OS just in case i can revert if i need to. Im currently running a KernelOS windows 11 version which is pretty stripped in my oppinion, most of the things have been turned off or removed completely.. After i installed the OS what i have done is : Melodys tweaker configured for best latency, Melodys win 11 basic optimizer, ancels batch: everything except network tweaks, followed trough whole Amiitxvs guide, djdallmans guide, boredom, basically all the "most known"? tweaks and stuff. I didnt touch the network at all except for few things in the before mentione guides, like setting my game on QoS and turning off NetBIOS over TCP/IP(even tho im on a wifi card and it says i should keep it on). Reason i didnt want to touch network and mess with things like TCP optimizer or some batches that "fix" bufferbloat and stuff is because in the 15 times i have bricked my OS every single time i couldnt get my internet to work as normal even after resetting the network fully via cmd.

I just have 1 question. Im playing a very old game thats based on UDP protocol(TCP optimizations wont help?) and how is it possible that after applying this regedit tweak my game has LITERALLY been feeling EXACTLY as i want it to feel? I hope you understand what i mean by EXACTLY but i mean, LITERALLY, if my brain wants to go to X position, the cursor WILL go to X position. The feeling is like instead of enemies seeing me first and its them reacting to me and them getting the first or the last shot off first, ITS ME who reacts first and LATENCY IS SO MUCH MORE reduced, the shots just connect. The hits just register, literally feels like a game should feel..

I never post online, first time ever i posted on a forum, i always lurk, never comment. I found this regedit tweak on this forum on this thread: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13717&start=20, posted my @MatrixQW The reason im so fukin mind blown is beacuse i have tried this exact tweak(or tweaks?) in the past and also tweaked around and played with it, it never worked, especially the EXACT settings as mentioned below. I would get timeouts and packet loss would jump as high as 15 or 20 and every few minutes i would disconnect, completely unplayable experience but... All of a sudden it works? Why?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001]
"*IPChecksumOffloadIPv4"="3"
"*MaxRssProcessors"="3"
"*NumRssQueues"="1"
"*RSS"="1"
"*RssBaseProcNumber"="3"
"*RssMaxProcNumber"="3"
"*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv4"="3"
"*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv6"="0"
"*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv4"="3"
"*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv6"="0"
"*RssProfile"="4"
"*NumaNodeId"="0"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*IPChecksumOffloadIPv4]
"ParamDesc"="IPv4 Checksum Offload"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*IPChecksumOffloadIPv4\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*NumRssQueues]
"ParamDesc"="Maximum Number of RSS Queues"
"default"="1"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*NumRssQueues\Enum]
"1"="1 Queue"
"2"="2 Queues"
"4"="4 Queues"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*RSS]
"ParamDesc"="Receive Side Scaling"
"default"="1"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*RSS\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv4]
"ParamDesc"="TCP Checksum Offload (IPv4)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv4\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv6]
"ParamDesc"="TCP Checksum Offload (IPv6)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv6\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv4]
"ParamDesc"="UDP Checksum Offload (IPv4)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv4\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv6]
"ParamDesc"="UDP Checksum Offload (IPv6)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv6\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

Hyote
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Re: RSS ?

Post by Hyote » 14 Feb 2025, 16:21

Not to take away from your success but I think I can add to this topic because I've been bricking Windows for a few years now and usually do it every day or every week if I want to focus on stability. Even with an extremely bogged down version there is no magic tweak to make it feel actually good. They all add up and whatever is causing input lag across all devices still remains. As for these settings, I have no idea, going to check later. Also I recommend staying off custom builds because obviously you can't surely know their contents and not applying scripts and tweaking tools as there can be conflicting settings. For the actual lowest latency: NTLite stripped os (optionally)
most things from AMITXV guide
SCEWIN or custom BIOS
disable everything like EventLog, CMD, Regedit, Task Manager
run as few services as you can which can be game specific (15-20)
These last 3 I mentioned are in the unsafe category but you really need to take everything apart for the best results.

burner
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Joined: 27 Jan 2025, 21:34

Re: RSS ?

Post by burner » 16 Feb 2025, 08:53

Hyote wrote:
14 Feb 2025, 16:21
Not to take away from your success but I think I can add to this topic because I've been bricking Windows for a few years now and usually do it every day or every week if I want to focus on stability. Even with an extremely bogged down version there is no magic tweak to make it feel actually good. They all add up and whatever is causing input lag across all devices still remains. As for these settings, I have no idea, going to check later. Also I recommend staying off custom builds because obviously you can't surely know their contents and not applying scripts and tweaking tools as there can be conflicting settings. For the actual lowest latency: NTLite stripped os (optionally)
most things from AMITXV guide
SCEWIN or custom BIOS
disable everything like EventLog, CMD, Regedit, Task Manager
run as few services as you can which can be game specific (15-20)
These last 3 I mentioned are in the unsafe category but you really need to take everything apart for the best results.
Im pretty happy with it honestly, I would OC the CPU & GPU & would do custom bios settings but cant since the APU.. Sucks but im happy with it. On my main PC of course.. I pushed this laptop to its limits im pretty sure

If moderator can allow me to post picture, i would post

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Re: RSS ?

Post by RealNC » 16 Feb 2025, 10:09

burner wrote:
16 Feb 2025, 08:53
If moderator can allow me to post picture, i would post
You need at least 4 posts before you're able to post links. But I think you can attach images to posts instead of linking.
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Re: RSS ?

Post by burner » 16 Feb 2025, 15:57

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Re: RSS ?

Post by howcani » 30 Mar 2025, 11:08

burner wrote:
13 Feb 2025, 17:28

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001]
This location could be not correct cause for me 0001 is driver "wan miniport (ikev2)" you can check in DriverDesc string file, usually it's 0009 for some people, if you put these registry keys not in nic then you could just get placebo

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Re: RSS ?

Post by JimCarry » 30 Mar 2025, 17:49

burner wrote:
13 Feb 2025, 17:28
Hi. I am not that tech knowledgeable even tho i have been around PCs since i was 5. Around 30 days ago i got addicted, quite literally addicted to everything relating input lag & latency. The lower the number on latency mon(even tho as i understand its not that accurate when it comes to measuring real time ISR/DPC Latency?) and better the feel in game the better. In these last 30 days i have bricked the OS maybe 10? to 15? times. All by blindly applying tweaks and trying to fix, hoping it would provide me a miracle 0 ms response time, hand to eye coordination , etc.. Of course didnt work.. After those 15 times i have gotten serious about being responsible and right now i have a dual boot of a copy of my current OS just in case i can revert if i need to. Im currently running a KernelOS windows 11 version which is pretty stripped in my oppinion, most of the things have been turned off or removed completely.. After i installed the OS what i have done is : Melodys tweaker configured for best latency, Melodys win 11 basic optimizer, ancels batch: everything except network tweaks, followed trough whole Amiitxvs guide, djdallmans guide, boredom, basically all the "most known"? tweaks and stuff. I didnt touch the network at all except for few things in the before mentione guides, like setting my game on QoS and turning off NetBIOS over TCP/IP(even tho im on a wifi card and it says i should keep it on). Reason i didnt want to touch network and mess with things like TCP optimizer or some batches that "fix" bufferbloat and stuff is because in the 15 times i have bricked my OS every single time i couldnt get my internet to work as normal even after resetting the network fully via cmd.

I just have 1 question. Im playing a very old game thats based on UDP protocol(TCP optimizations wont help?) and how is it possible that after applying this regedit tweak my game has LITERALLY been feeling EXACTLY as i want it to feel? I hope you understand what i mean by EXACTLY but i mean, LITERALLY, if my brain wants to go to X position, the cursor WILL go to X position. The feeling is like instead of enemies seeing me first and its them reacting to me and them getting the first or the last shot off first, ITS ME who reacts first and LATENCY IS SO MUCH MORE reduced, the shots just connect. The hits just register, literally feels like a game should feel..

I never post online, first time ever i posted on a forum, i always lurk, never comment. I found this regedit tweak on this forum on this thread: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13717&start=20, posted my @MatrixQW The reason im so fukin mind blown is beacuse i have tried this exact tweak(or tweaks?) in the past and also tweaked around and played with it, it never worked, especially the EXACT settings as mentioned below. I would get timeouts and packet loss would jump as high as 15 or 20 and every few minutes i would disconnect, completely unplayable experience but... All of a sudden it works? Why?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001]
"*IPChecksumOffloadIPv4"="3"
"*MaxRssProcessors"="3"
"*NumRssQueues"="1"
"*RSS"="1"
"*RssBaseProcNumber"="3"
"*RssMaxProcNumber"="3"
"*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv4"="3"
"*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv6"="0"
"*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv4"="3"
"*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv6"="0"
"*RssProfile"="4"
"*NumaNodeId"="0"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*IPChecksumOffloadIPv4]
"ParamDesc"="IPv4 Checksum Offload"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*IPChecksumOffloadIPv4\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*NumRssQueues]
"ParamDesc"="Maximum Number of RSS Queues"
"default"="1"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*NumRssQueues\Enum]
"1"="1 Queue"
"2"="2 Queues"
"4"="4 Queues"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*RSS]
"ParamDesc"="Receive Side Scaling"
"default"="1"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*RSS\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv4]
"ParamDesc"="TCP Checksum Offload (IPv4)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv4\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv6]
"ParamDesc"="TCP Checksum Offload (IPv6)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*TCPChecksumOffloadIPv6\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv4]
"ParamDesc"="UDP Checksum Offload (IPv4)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv4\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv6]
"ParamDesc"="UDP Checksum Offload (IPv6)"
"default"="3"
"type"="enum"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\Ndi\params\*UDPChecksumOffloadIPv6\enum]
"0"="Disabled"
"1"="Tx Enabled"
"2"="Rx Enabled"
"3"="Rx & Tx Enabled"
so you just turn rss on ? because i think in the source you are showing he is just export his reg to a guy with a intel nic that does not have rss?

hazzahodgson
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Re: RSS ?

Post by hazzahodgson » 31 Mar 2025, 14:24

try using a usb internet dongle plugged into a usb port routed directly to cpu and with its isolated core affinity. your mind will be blown

Watchdog
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Re: RSS ?

Post by Watchdog » 01 May 2025, 01:20

What's your receive buffers and transmit buffers? You can check it on your adapter settings with "configure" for client for microsoft networks or on a regedit below named "ReceiveBuffers" and "TransmitBuffers".

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001

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