LCD 600hz monitors

[Dalek]

Seems a bit pointless to buy given that OLED has just hit 500hz, but still, it's cool to see it now being a thing. 600hz should also be the sweet spot for video playback at 24, 25, 30, 50, 60FPS I think?

https://zowie.benq.eu/en-uk/monitor/xl2586x-plus.html
https://www.msi.com/blog/ces-2025-monit ... s-and-more
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?id=1725854517

[RonsonPL]

It's basically pointless. It matters much more if the panel is good, if the backlight is good, if low persistence mode (strobing) is good etc.
I'm pretty sure Asus 540MHz will be better than the chineese 750Hz monitor shown on CES.

Even TN panel is a bit too slow to really benefit from that.
And about the movies - nah. You don't need that much. You can manually set the refreshrates so even 120Hz monitor should have no issues with the 24fps content judder.

750Hz OLED, OK, that would be interesting, unless they use something ruining the OLEDs fast pixel response times. But 1080p TN panels with 600Hz is just a gimmick, maybe something a few PRO players could use to lower the motion-to-photon latency even more, but I think starting from around 500Hz, we reach the end of where regular people will ever notice the lower latency and better mouse rensponsiveness.
Fluidity won't change much from 480 to 750Hz and motion quality on LCD will remain a bit flawed, so basically it's not an interesting product. Unless it happens to have some other features worth having, but still 1080p is a bit low.
Asus 540Hz TN LCD is great in terms of motion quality, backlight strobing implementation and brightness, but you can't even use that brightness for CRT simulating shaders (I mean the pixel look, not the Chief's CRT's scaning emulator) cause it looks best at 4K and decent at 1440p but not good at 1080p.

Maybe if they started to make a lot more of those and dropped the price from 600-1000$ to 250$, then it would be a big thing to talk about.
I wonder if they will ever make 1440p TNs designed for motion quality. Using two CRT shaders, with both lowering the brightness, kinda ruin the image on anything but the brightest of the brightest displays, so that would be awesome to have, but I think the problem is that no LCD panel manufacturer will desing a 1440p TN panel correctly - for high volume. Cause for low volume of ridiculously expensive TN monitors, it will surely not make any financial sense to start a dedicated production line for those.
And that's too bad, cause there's no real reason to not have cheap, 500+Hz 1440p TN monitors on the market.
If 1080p 144Hz superfast TN panels were available for around 250$ a decade ago, surely driving 2x more pixels doesn't require electronics made entirely out of gold and diamonds.

[kyube]

No refresh rate increase is pointless, even if G2G response times are not within the refresh (scanout) window.
You still get the latency benefits, along with sample & hold clarity benefits of higher refresh rate.

I'm excited for the new 750Hz TN panels, as they seem to be new (not overclocked E-TN's)
It's a great point for someone that's on 360Hz to jump to, as 2x refresh rate upgrades are preferred.

I hope they stay clear of KSF/PFS backlights and stick to QD or standard WLED backlights, so that strobing implementations don't suffer from the noticable red fringing.

[Asssilem_00]

Which tech product are you most excited about at CES?

[Dalek]

Which tech product are you most excited about at CES?

500hz 1440p QD-OLEDs and the QD-OLED 4K 240hz with the new HDMI and DP spec. But QD-OLED is a dealbreaker for me because reflective screens are rage inducing to deal with. It would have been nice if there was a normal matte coating for one of the models. I would say the 5090 too but.. it's a 4090 TI with only a 30-35% performance increase.

[cs2threadalert]

my god, imagine the hardware you would need to stay solid at 600hz in a frametime intensive game like CS2. Might as well sell your house.

[petight]

Found this on the new AOC 600hz monitor which should be releasing in EU shortly. I wonder if this is the same tech as Dyac+. Looks promising, should be minimal crosstalk and ghosting if it is tuned correctly.

[kyube]

Found this on the new AOC 600hz monitor which should be releasing in EU shortly. I wonder if this is the same tech as Dyac+. Looks promising, should be minimal crosstalk and ghosting if it is tuned correctly.

This might be similar to ASUS' XG248QSG ELMB2 and Zowie's DyAc2 implementation of backlight strobing instead.
I hope they finally opt for a QD-based backlight.

[Discorz]

Always great to see improvements! We now got multiple new rolling edge-light options:

• Zowie DyAc 2
• Asus ELMB 2
• AOC MBR+
• Sony MBR (FALD)
• HKC DIC

[petight]

Oh sorry meant to say dyac2. Seems like all of the latest crop of high refresh TNs will be using this 10-zone backlight tech then.