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*edit* floaty mouse, desync etc

Post by blurbusterfan1234567 » 31 Jan 2026, 14:51

*EDIT* this post was originally diving into placebo and snake oil, however even if irrelevant, i said i would come back and do a proper post correcting my nonsense.

I have come to the conclusion it is all hardware related. No amount of altering windows/bios, tweaking, drivers is the solution, even if a difference is noticed, it is not correcting the real issue and never will. I am not in a position to throw money at my problems so I will continue as is and be content with what I have, it is what it is.

My hardware is asus prime z490-p, i5 10600k, f4-3200c16-16gtzrn, ventus 3x oc 3070 ti, thermaltake smart 750w psu.

One thing that gave me a consistent improvement was deep diving into my ram which I was oblivious prior. My RTL's were always decent but my IOL's never trained properly, they had a 10+ digit gap, even without using xmp. I never thought much of it and focused on everything else, assuming ram wouldnt have as big of a impact as it does. Sadly no matter how much research/guides I followed, I still dont have a ideal ram config, but after doing almost every timing manual to safe values, not going for peak performance but rather stability and consistency, I noticed it already felt better. Following that, I tried to manipulate the training for iol, as if i put any number in manually for rtl or iol, it wont boot. So I have to make the motherboard do it, the only way I could fix my IOL was enabling round trip latency training which was on auto by default, however that ruined my RTL but fixed my IOL. Then I set rtl init to try and bridge the gap between my 2 rtls that were 10+ digit lower than the rest, and i got it down to a 8 digit gap and im happy with that. The difference was night and day once I completed everything.

Anyway, one component can make such a impact, I'm sure others are the same way even if "indirectly" more so in a "hardware synergy" concept, which simply can't be fixed without throwing money at the issue. I even believe its part electrical related as well, everytime I turn on my pc when my room lights are on, they briefly flicker (brown out), also my psu makes a buzzing noise constantly, hard to describe and it happens even if my pc is turned off.

No real tweaking is needed if you solve issues at the core. My advice, do good research and pick good hardware combinations, not just individual high end components. There are many posts from people on various sites giving component lists etc, they make it easy, you just need money. :D

I remember many years ago, I had a high end z97 sli krait board with a i7 4790k, with ddr3 and it was like cl8 or cl9 all other timings were really low as well, that was the last time I had good experience, back then i didnt even know about doing tweaks/bios stuff either, as i didnt need to, everything felt soooo good and was 2nd nature, so the thought never came to mind. I wish i still had it, id use it over what I have now in a heart beat.

Sorry if this post is a nothing burger to some, or me spewing out stuff that has been said many times. Bye bye now :)
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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by Hyote » 01 Feb 2026, 04:21

I don't know but this brings up an interesting topic that I'm going to check out.

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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by Apexer15 » 01 Feb 2026, 09:06

So some people are thinking the issue is CPU related and it turns out it's GPU's?
This is like the 3rd topic that is trying to prove it as a GPU issue. Interesting.

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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by kimchi man » 01 Feb 2026, 11:43

This article really resonated with me. I especially liked the part about how, after reinstalling Windows, FHD resolution looked like 4K, and the mouse felt like a 1:1 correspondence, allowing for effortless, precise aiming. I've experienced it myself. Once you experience it, you either keep chasing it or quit the game. If you can't fix the problem, you'll lose interest in the game.

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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by playa » 01 Feb 2026, 22:55

The only reason you ever "Held your own" or thought that you are a "competitive player" was because you had it better than most. This problem is everything when it comes to gaming, it decides the result of each duel. If you got it good and you join a server where someone has it even better than you then your game automatically "slows down" and you start to "play shittier". I think of it as bubbles running around the server, when you've got the advantage your bubble is small, you seem to be running around faster, you're unhitable and barely even visible. And then the opposite is the big bubble where everyone can see you, you're stuck in mud, easily hitable etc. I've experienced both sides and it's literally everything, there's 0 skill involved.

I've also experienced the "4K super shiny windows" after reinstall and the 1:1 mouse movement. It literally looked like i had an aimbot on desktop lolz. I've been experimenting with it for a while now and i think i'm actually pretty close to getting something somewhat solid to show. I'm not very tech-savvy so my way is the good old trial and error. I'll come back here if i run into a dead end like most folks here. Otherwise i'll be on my way to pwning in games haha

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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by Hyote » 02 Feb 2026, 00:37

playa wrote: ↑
01 Feb 2026, 22:55
The only reason you ever "Held your own" or thought that you are a "competitive player" was because you had it better than most. This problem is everything when it comes to gaming, it decides the result of each duel. If you got it good and you join a server where someone has it even better than you then your game automatically "slows down" and you start to "play shittier". I think of it as bubbles running around the server, when you've got the advantage your bubble is small, you seem to be running around faster, you're unhitable and barely even visible. And then the opposite is the big bubble where everyone can see you, you're stuck in mud, easily hitable etc. I've experienced both sides and it's literally everything, there's 0 skill involved.

I've also experienced the "4K super shiny windows" after reinstall and the 1:1 mouse movement. It literally looked like i had an aimbot on desktop lolz. I've been experimenting with it for a while now and i think i'm actually pretty close to getting something somewhat solid to show. I'm not very tech-savvy so my way is the good old trial and error. I'll come back here if i run into a dead end like most folks here. Otherwise i'll be on my way to pwning in games haha
Love how many people here write big words with nothing to show for it.

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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by dervu » 02 Feb 2026, 05:10

Hyote wrote: ↑
02 Feb 2026, 00:37
playa wrote: ↑
01 Feb 2026, 22:55
The only reason you ever "Held your own" or thought that you are a "competitive player" was because you had it better than most. This problem is everything when it comes to gaming, it decides the result of each duel. If you got it good and you join a server where someone has it even better than you then your game automatically "slows down" and you start to "play shittier". I think of it as bubbles running around the server, when you've got the advantage your bubble is small, you seem to be running around faster, you're unhitable and barely even visible. And then the opposite is the big bubble where everyone can see you, you're stuck in mud, easily hitable etc. I've experienced both sides and it's literally everything, there's 0 skill involved.

I've also experienced the "4K super shiny windows" after reinstall and the 1:1 mouse movement. It literally looked like i had an aimbot on desktop lolz. I've been experimenting with it for a while now and i think i'm actually pretty close to getting something somewhat solid to show. I'm not very tech-savvy so my way is the good old trial and error. I'll come back here if i run into a dead end like most folks here. Otherwise i'll be on my way to pwning in games haha
Love how many people here write big words with nothing to show for it.
No wonder when they can't reproduce it consistently, then what is there to show?
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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by blurbusterfan1234567 » 02 Feb 2026, 05:19

Hyote wrote: ↑
01 Feb 2026, 04:21
I don't know but this brings up an interesting topic that I'm going to check out.
Not to glaze but I have read up on alot of your stuff! I'm not running anything these days but it was cool to test out your findings :D . I also seem to have further improved my mouse feeling, as well as reproduce the "4k" like effect aka everything just looks better more crisp, text is cleaner to read as well. I'm going to wait a few days see if it stays. I suspect hundreds of things ive tried in the past were all useless even if it did change my system feel, because i was always going to be held back since everything else was still out of whack, vbios being messed up, z490 bios settings being geared towards max power and not underclocking etc or 2nd monitor refresh rate mismatch/scaling issue or even primary monitor scaling issue, i run 1 monitor only now just to avoid the headache but the list goes on. Hopefully I have a good update coming within a week

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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by playa » 02 Feb 2026, 06:48

Sharing would only ruin it(what's in it for me?). I just came here to tell you the scale of this thing, even the decisions you make ingame are greatly affected by how your system runs your game, almost as if it steers you in the right directions(or wrong for that matter xd)

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Re: Vbios solving my issues (maybe? help :D plz )

Post by blurbusterfan1234567 » 02 Feb 2026, 06:59

playa wrote: ↑
02 Feb 2026, 06:48
Sharing would only ruin it(what's in it for me?). I just came here to tell you the scale of this thing, even the decisions you make ingame are greatly affected by how your system runs your game, almost as if it steers you in the right directions(or wrong for that matter xd)
crazy attitude to have, but okay! yea, so many factors at play which makes it even more maddening.
playa wrote: ↑
01 Feb 2026, 22:55
The only reason you ever "Held your own" or thought that you are a "competitive player" was because you had it better than most. This problem is everything when it comes to gaming, it decides the result of each duel. If you got it good and you join a server where someone has it even better than you then your game automatically "slows down" and you start to "play shittier". I think of it as bubbles running around the server, when you've got the advantage your bubble is small, you seem to be running around faster, you're unhitable and barely even visible. And then the opposite is the big bubble where everyone can see you, you're stuck in mud, easily hitable etc. I've experienced both sides and it's literally everything, there's 0 skill involved.

I've also experienced the "4K super shiny windows" after reinstall and the 1:1 mouse movement. It literally looked like i had an aimbot on desktop lolz. I've been experimenting with it for a while now and i think i'm actually pretty close to getting something somewhat solid to show. I'm not very tech-savvy so my way is the good old trial and error. I'll come back here if i run into a dead end like most folks here. Otherwise i'll be on my way to pwning in games haha
i hope you figure it out as well, i sort of regret making my post so early as I think that was just step 1, but at the end of the day we are all on the same journey here.

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