UPDATE 2 | Fixed input lag and floaty mouse with UPS

[Yazeedtt]

I tried every software/bios tweaks from every website imaginable, from xmp ram timings to disabling HPET, to editing registry for mouse responsiveness, I also got a static public IP and set NAT to Full Cone from CGNAT. While all these slightly change input, the core issue of floaty aim that delays before coming to a complete stop + enemy ferrari peeking in every comp game eg. Valorant and CS2. Hell, even trying to draw circles on the desktop was impossible as it would be so delayed it would draw ovals after 3-4 circles.

This issue is so hard to diagnose since there are so many PC components combinations from motherboard to CPU to GPU to RAM to PSU. Even down to cases with different screws and such.

Now my fix to my own PC configuration was when my fans rgb started to act strange, some just stopped working and went dark. I was still trying to find a fix for input lag, mouse delay in games during this time and put buying new case fans to later priority. So what I did was I unplugged the ARGB 5v cables (In my case, I had 2 cables) from the motherboard. I got no more rgb but low and behold, floaty mouse, laggy delayed windows and inputs all gone. With modern pc's everyone has gone crazy with lights and rgb fans and it seems like with my particular pc, Z490 board has an issue with the 2 ARGB 5v cables. Well these cables are notoriously bad, comes loose easily and doesn't sit snug.

TLDR: My fix to input lag and delay was to unplug all my ARGB 5v cables from my motherboard. Hope you guys try this out, if it doesn't work you can just simply plug it back

It’s great that you managed to solve the problem, and I hope it doesn’t come back or that it was just a placebo effect. Personally, I don’t think this solution will help, because the problem is still happening on the ps5, which makes me rule out that cause.

[Yazeedtt]

imo theres zero chance its to do with your buildings wiring, i have the same issue in two different houses in the same town, im in the position to test a third house soon which is a bit further away. It seems to be that certain towns transformers just distribute the electricity in certain ways that make this issue appear, but in most other places it doesnt, i dont know the specific science behind it

I thought that at first too, but after doing research for multiple months I'm now 90% that the issue is indeed wiring and building related, not the grid. I mean if the grid would really be the cause, then the entire neighbourhoods of 20+ big apartment buildings on the same grid, with several thousands of people in just that area, would be affected, and there is no way there wouldn't be many reports and complaints about that and they would have to investigate and fix it.

Unfortunately, many people don’t notice the small details the way we do, so don’t rule out that the issue could be with the transformer and affecting the whole neighborhood. But only about 2–3% of people would notice it, and that’s not enough for it to be taken seriously. Only those who play at a high level will notice it, while for the rest, it will be enough that their devices are simply working.

[astroasis]

imo theres zero chance its to do with your buildings wiring, i have the same issue in two different houses in the same town, im in the position to test a third house soon which is a bit further away. It seems to be that certain towns transformers just distribute the electricity in certain ways that make this issue appear, but in most other places it doesnt, i dont know the specific science behind it

I thought that at first too, but after doing research for multiple months I'm now 90% that the issue is indeed wiring and building related, not the grid. I mean if the grid would really be the cause, then the entire neighbourhoods of 20+ big apartment buildings on the same grid, with several thousands of people in just that area, would be affected, and there is no way there wouldn't be many reports and complaints about that and they would have to investigate and fix it.

If i try a third house and the issue remains, i can safely say its nothing to do with the buildings, one was a detached home built in the 60s, one an apartment and the next will be semi detached home built in 2017. Also the fact remains that if I changed nothing in my setup or in my house in the year 2018 when the issue started, then the issue is coming from outside the home

[astroasis]

I tried every software/bios tweaks from every website imaginable, from xmp ram timings to disabling HPET, to editing registry for mouse responsiveness, I also got a static public IP and set NAT to Full Cone from CGNAT. While all these slightly change input, the core issue of floaty aim that delays before coming to a complete stop + enemy ferrari peeking in every comp game eg. Valorant and CS2. Hell, even trying to draw circles on the desktop was impossible as it would be so delayed it would draw ovals after 3-4 circles.

This issue is so hard to diagnose since there are so many PC components combinations from motherboard to CPU to GPU to RAM to PSU. Even down to cases with different screws and such.

Now my fix to my own PC configuration was when my fans rgb started to act strange, some just stopped working and went dark. I was still trying to find a fix for input lag, mouse delay in games during this time and put buying new case fans to later priority. So what I did was I unplugged the ARGB 5v cables (In my case, I had 2 cables) from the motherboard. I got no more rgb but low and behold, floaty mouse, laggy delayed windows and inputs all gone. With modern pc's everyone has gone crazy with lights and rgb fans and it seems like with my particular pc, Z490 board has an issue with the 2 ARGB 5v cables. Well these cables are notoriously bad, comes loose easily and doesn't sit snug.

TLDR: My fix to input lag and delay was to unplug all my ARGB 5v cables from my motherboard. Hope you guys try this out, if it doesn't work you can just simply plug it back

It’s great that you managed to solve the problem, and I hope it doesn’t come back or that it was just a placebo effect. Personally, I don’t think this solution will help, because the problem is still happening on the ps5, which makes me rule out that cause.

yeah it happens to me also with my laptop plugged into the TV, picture quality starts blurry then gets clearer late at night, also wiggling wires and turning on appliances like a washing machine changes how responsive my pc is

[Yazeedtt]

I just received an EMF meter, and it gave me some interesting results. I’ll document them and share them with you, most likely through a link on YouTube.

[f1ndus]

Fluctuations, too low voltage, impedance, harmonics, floaty shared neutral carrying your neighbour's voltages...this all goes under "dirty electricity", it is never classic "EMI" causing problems, if your problem would be EMI, then a single ferrite choke would make all problems disappear.

EMI would only affect monitors (like visible image and color distortion, flickering, those visible lines "traveling" through monitor etc.) and audio equipment (buzzing, hissing, crackling etc.). It CANNOT cause problems with frame pacing, frame choppiness, refresh rate inconsistency, internal Windows compositor timing etc., which we perceive as a feeling like it's below 60hz refresh rate, floaty mouse, choppiness and lagging of everything...this is caused by neutral wires and nothing else.

You can’t be so sure about that. I’ve been looking for a solution since around 2017–2018. I was even a professional CS player for a while very few people have done as many tests as I have.

I’ve played at tens of LAN tournaments, including in different countries. I’ve even rented apartments multiple times for several months just to focus on playing. I have an incredible number of contacts with people like me who have the same problem, including well-known and influential people.

Maybe it’s not an EMI issue no one can know that 100% for sure. Hundreds of people have already tried the highest-quality UPS units, various filters, power conditioners, and so on.

The shared neutral in our village means a PEN conductor. Every house here has three phases plus one PEN conductor, which means we don’t have a separate neutral. [ So grounding and separeting neutral wire from yellow-green wire is huge PROFIT ]

I personally did a complete electrical reconstruction at home a few years ago—new wiring, completely new circuit breakers—but it ended in disappointment. I gave up at my place and never tried to create my own grounding system or switch to a TN-C-S system.

And what you’re saying that the computer itself cannot cause this kind of issue to persist even in a different location where the problem doesn’t exist is not true. Maybe you need some more years of searching and testing to realize that this problem isn’t something you can just get rid of easily.

[MK92]

Fluctuations, too low voltage, impedance, harmonics, floaty shared neutral carrying your neighbour's voltages...this all goes under "dirty electricity", it is never classic "EMI" causing problems, if your problem would be EMI, then a single ferrite choke would make all problems disappear.

EMI would only affect monitors (like visible image and color distortion, flickering, those visible lines "traveling" through monitor etc.) and audio equipment (buzzing, hissing, crackling etc.). It CANNOT cause problems with frame pacing, frame choppiness, refresh rate inconsistency, internal Windows compositor timing etc., which we perceive as a feeling like it's below 60hz refresh rate, floaty mouse, choppiness and lagging of everything...this is caused by neutral wires and nothing else.

You can’t be so sure about that. I’ve been looking for a solution since around 2017–2018. I was even a professional CS player for a while very few people have done as many tests as I have.

I’ve played at tens of LAN tournaments, including in different countries. I’ve even rented apartments multiple times for several months just to focus on playing. I have an incredible number of contacts with people like me who have the same problem, including well-known and influential people.

Maybe it’s not an EMI issue no one can know that 100% for sure. Hundreds of people have already tried the highest-quality UPS units, various filters, power conditioners, and so on.

The shared neutral in our village means a PEN conductor. Every house here has three phases plus one PEN conductor, which means we don’t have a separate neutral. [ So grounding and separeting neutral wire from yellow-green wire is huge PROFIT ]

I personally did a complete electrical reconstruction at home a few years ago—new wiring, completely new circuit breakers—but it ended in disappointment. I gave up at my place and never tried to create my own grounding system or switch to a TN-C-S system.

And what you’re saying that the computer itself cannot cause this kind of issue to persist even in a different location where the problem doesn’t exist is not true. Maybe you need some more years of searching and testing to realize that this problem isn’t something you can just get rid of easily.

And what exactly were your problems? Only weird and delayed mouse behaviour, opponents seeing you before you see them? And all of this happening ONLY in counter-strike? I don't know who even started connecting your kind of problems to electricity years ago, because the problem is obviously network related if you have no other problems than that.

For us with actual electricity problems, we also have major problems in desktop, web browsing, video watching, speakers, single-player games, even in BIOS etc...if you don't have any other problems and the only problem is that very badly optimized game, then start looking into some advanced network issues instead - which are probably on ISP or server side anyway, so its not like it can be fixed.

[f1ndus]

Fluctuations, too low voltage, impedance, harmonics, floaty shared neutral carrying your neighbour's voltages...this all goes under "dirty electricity", it is never classic "EMI" causing problems, if your problem would be EMI, then a single ferrite choke would make all problems disappear.

EMI would only affect monitors (like visible image and color distortion, flickering, those visible lines "traveling" through monitor etc.) and audio equipment (buzzing, hissing, crackling etc.). It CANNOT cause problems with frame pacing, frame choppiness, refresh rate inconsistency, internal Windows compositor timing etc., which we perceive as a feeling like it's below 60hz refresh rate, floaty mouse, choppiness and lagging of everything...this is caused by neutral wires and nothing else.

You can’t be so sure about that. I’ve been looking for a solution since around 2017–2018. I was even a professional CS player for a while very few people have done as many tests as I have.

I’ve played at tens of LAN tournaments, including in different countries. I’ve even rented apartments multiple times for several months just to focus on playing. I have an incredible number of contacts with people like me who have the same problem, including well-known and influential people.

Maybe it’s not an EMI issue no one can know that 100% for sure. Hundreds of people have already tried the highest-quality UPS units, various filters, power conditioners, and so on.

The shared neutral in our village means a PEN conductor. Every house here has three phases plus one PEN conductor, which means we don’t have a separate neutral. [ So grounding and separeting neutral wire from yellow-green wire is huge PROFIT ]

I personally did a complete electrical reconstruction at home a few years ago—new wiring, completely new circuit breakers—but it ended in disappointment. I gave up at my place and never tried to create my own grounding system or switch to a TN-C-S system.

And what you’re saying that the computer itself cannot cause this kind of issue to persist even in a different location where the problem doesn’t exist is not true. Maybe you need some more years of searching and testing to realize that this problem isn’t something you can just get rid of easily.

And what exactly were your problems? Only weird and delayed mouse behaviour, opponents seeing you before you see them? And all of this happening ONLY in counter-strike? I don't know who even started connecting your kind of problems to electricity years ago, because the problem is obviously network related if you have no other problems than that.

For us with actual electricity problems, we also have major problems in desktop, web browsing, video watching, speakers, single-player games, even in BIOS etc...if you don't have any other problems and the only problem is that very badly optimized game, then start looking into some advanced network issues instead - which are probably on ISP or server side anyway, so its not like it can be fixed.

lol bro you are kind a newbie

[gjk]

Still working for you OP?

[jterri]

Still working for you OP?

Yup, he hasn’t been on the forum since February, he is out enjoying his game now