hi, im sorry with this newb question. When I first got this pc set up I updated the drivers through windows. I saw something for the monitor and assumed that was enough. I have a Ben q Z model (the basic one) v2 firmware.
Also I saw something about intensity, single strobe, and area options. I cant seem to find those options.
I just want to make sure I have blur reduction working properly.
thank you guys so much
should i download the moonitor firmware?
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Falkentyne
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Re: should i download the moonitor firmware?
Which Z model exactly?
And "intensity" and "Area" (which correspond to strobe duty (persistence), and strobe phase (strobe crosstalk position), in the service menu, are ONLY for the 2430T, at the moment, which is a 'newer' 2420Z, but without NVidia 3d vision 2 (lightboost) but with extra color image settings (black equalizer 2.0, digital vibrance, etc). Intensity and Area can be adjusted in the OSD, while in the Z series, you have to go into the service menu to adjust these parameters (but you can use the windows blur busters utility also).
And "intensity" and "Area" (which correspond to strobe duty (persistence), and strobe phase (strobe crosstalk position), in the service menu, are ONLY for the 2430T, at the moment, which is a 'newer' 2420Z, but without NVidia 3d vision 2 (lightboost) but with extra color image settings (black equalizer 2.0, digital vibrance, etc). Intensity and Area can be adjusted in the OSD, while in the Z series, you have to go into the service menu to adjust these parameters (but you can use the windows blur busters utility also).
Re: should i download the moonitor firmware?
Really appreciate the super fast reply. I have the Xl2411Z. DO I have to the download the firmware in your opinion?Falkentyne wrote:Which Z model exactly?
And "intensity" and "Area" (which correspond to strobe duty (persistence), and strobe phase (strobe crosstalk position), in the service menu, are ONLY for the 2430T, at the moment, which is a 'newer' 2420Z, but without NVidia 3d vision 2 (lightboost) but with extra color image settings (black equalizer 2.0, digital vibrance, etc). Intensity and Area can be adjusted in the OSD, while in the Z series, you have to go into the service menu to adjust these parameters (but you can use the windows blur busters utility also).
I want to makre sure I have BR working properly. I have read some of your other posts here so I hopefully I can get this right.
RIght now I have the utility set at 2.0, Crosstalk 0, and also I tried your VT 1500 suggestion. I have the 1920x 1080 as the top detailed resolution w/ front porch 48/3, sync width 32/ 5. Sync polarity has plus sign for both horizontal and vertical. Contrast is 0
do I have to open the cru utlity everytime I boot the pc? I just used the restart-64.exe as you suggested
thanks alot
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Falkentyne
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Re: should i download the moonitor firmware?
If you are running at 100hz with a VT tweak, just check the OSD. If it says @60hz, then it's working (the way the screen works, and I did ask chief if he knows _why_), if the timings deviate too far from default timings for a resolution, the screen uses 60hz pulse widths (designed for strobing), with the backlight.
This has absolutely no effect if blur reduction is off, although using a VT tweak on a screen that does real time scanout is very similar to lightboost mode (which does accelerated scanout through LC panel hardware); it tends to degrade image quality somewhat. That's why if you use VT 1500 tweak, even if blur reduction is off (OR lightboost mode itself), you may notice horizontal "scanlines" (not the same as inversion artifacts) around the top half of the screen. It tends to be worse in Lightboost mode since lightboost pushes the panel even harder than a VT 1502 tweak.
You only need to download and flash the monitor firmware if you were using a version 1 FW. And you would know if you did, because the windows blur reduction utility would not work on 1.0 (and would tell you unsupported monitor)
The service menu gives you more freedom to adjust blur reduction settings than the windows utility. For example you can disable single strobe while still being able to adjust strobe pulse and strobe duty (the reason why any windows utility adjustment ENABLES single strobe is due to a strange bug in the firmware; if single strobe is enabled (besides forcing single strobe at 60-99hz refresh rate (100-144 hz refresh rate ALWAYS single strobes)), the strobe custom settings instantly get applied when blur reduction is toggled on from off through the OSD.
However if single strobe is disabled, if blur reduction is toggled on, it uses default settings instead of your custom settings (seems to be a "a throwback" to the V1 firmware which always used a unchangeable default setting), but as soon as EITHER brightness (!) is changed or strobe duty/phase is changed, it instantly activates the custom settings. (that's why if you enable blur reduction through a gamer/preset profile switch, it always uses your custom strobe settings even if single strobe is disabled, because presets also reset the brightness as well).
Basically, if the monitor is double strobing (it only double strobes at 60-99 hz (unconfirmed..it might be 60-89 hz), you can't use strobe adjustments. If it's single strobing (it ALWAYS single strobes at 100-144hz) it's supposed to ALWAYS use ur custom adjustments. But if single strobe is disabled, it won't recall your custom adjustments if blur reduction is toggled on unless a change is made to brightness or phase/duty.
I do not know if this strange bug was fixed in the 2430T (which still has single strobe on/off in the service menu). I DO know that 50 hz single strobe is still "missing" from the firmware in the 2430T and can damage the backlight (50hz double strobe is fine)--not like you would ever want to use 50hz single strobe anyway, but if you ever accidentally entered a 50hz mode with single strobe on, you would not want to leave the monitor in that state (backlight becomes massively voltage overdriven, luminance out of spec, because strobing is not turning on as it should).
This has absolutely no effect if blur reduction is off, although using a VT tweak on a screen that does real time scanout is very similar to lightboost mode (which does accelerated scanout through LC panel hardware); it tends to degrade image quality somewhat. That's why if you use VT 1500 tweak, even if blur reduction is off (OR lightboost mode itself), you may notice horizontal "scanlines" (not the same as inversion artifacts) around the top half of the screen. It tends to be worse in Lightboost mode since lightboost pushes the panel even harder than a VT 1502 tweak.
You only need to download and flash the monitor firmware if you were using a version 1 FW. And you would know if you did, because the windows blur reduction utility would not work on 1.0 (and would tell you unsupported monitor)
The service menu gives you more freedom to adjust blur reduction settings than the windows utility. For example you can disable single strobe while still being able to adjust strobe pulse and strobe duty (the reason why any windows utility adjustment ENABLES single strobe is due to a strange bug in the firmware; if single strobe is enabled (besides forcing single strobe at 60-99hz refresh rate (100-144 hz refresh rate ALWAYS single strobes)), the strobe custom settings instantly get applied when blur reduction is toggled on from off through the OSD.
However if single strobe is disabled, if blur reduction is toggled on, it uses default settings instead of your custom settings (seems to be a "a throwback" to the V1 firmware which always used a unchangeable default setting), but as soon as EITHER brightness (!) is changed or strobe duty/phase is changed, it instantly activates the custom settings. (that's why if you enable blur reduction through a gamer/preset profile switch, it always uses your custom strobe settings even if single strobe is disabled, because presets also reset the brightness as well).
Basically, if the monitor is double strobing (it only double strobes at 60-99 hz (unconfirmed..it might be 60-89 hz), you can't use strobe adjustments. If it's single strobing (it ALWAYS single strobes at 100-144hz) it's supposed to ALWAYS use ur custom adjustments. But if single strobe is disabled, it won't recall your custom adjustments if blur reduction is toggled on unless a change is made to brightness or phase/duty.
I do not know if this strange bug was fixed in the 2430T (which still has single strobe on/off in the service menu). I DO know that 50 hz single strobe is still "missing" from the firmware in the 2430T and can damage the backlight (50hz double strobe is fine)--not like you would ever want to use 50hz single strobe anyway, but if you ever accidentally entered a 50hz mode with single strobe on, you would not want to leave the monitor in that state (backlight becomes massively voltage overdriven, luminance out of spec, because strobing is not turning on as it should).
Re: should i download the moonitor firmware?
Again, thanks for all this info
Is there a difference between 100 hz and 120? I assumed 120 was better
Also you said check to see if it says 60 hz in the osd, what is that exactly? I know it stands for on screen display but is it those options that pop up when you press the buttons? To adjust the settings
And I can't find the option for single strobe. I have an ati r9 290 card and the xl2411z monitor has v2 firmware. Can't seem to find the service menu
Thanks again and happy new years
Is there a difference between 100 hz and 120? I assumed 120 was better
Also you said check to see if it says 60 hz in the osd, what is that exactly? I know it stands for on screen display but is it those options that pop up when you press the buttons? To adjust the settings
And I can't find the option for single strobe. I have an ati r9 290 card and the xl2411z monitor has v2 firmware. Can't seem to find the service menu
Thanks again and happy new years
