The Mystery Behind Floaty Mouse, Low Hz Feeling and Ferrari Peeks

[cerns]

Hello everyone,

I've been dealing with this issue for almost 3 years now.

Some of the symptoms I'm experiencing are:

- Low Hz feeling
- Floaty mouse
- Ferrari peeks
- Heavy movement
- Desync

I can't remember every single symptom right now, but I'm sure most of you already know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm not here today looking for another solution or fix. Like most of you, I've tried almost everything imaginable, and unfortunately, nothing has worked.

What I actually want to discuss is not so much how to fix this issue, but **what causes it in the first place, or what could possibly be causing it.**

The reason I'm bringing this up is that everyone seems to focus on finding solutions, but those solutions are all related to completely different things. Some people blame electricity, others blame BIOS settings, Windows tweaks, or various other factors.

**Instead of hearing about more fixes, I'd really like to know why you think you're experiencing this issue. Even if it's just a theory or a guess, I'd love to hear it.**

In such a large forum, it's surprisingly difficult to find someone who claims to have solved this issue and can actually prove it. But at the same time, I find it hard to believe that not even a single person has managed to get rid of it completely.

When I first started researching this problem, my main suspicion was electricity. I spent a lot of time investigating it and tried dozens of different things. I even created a topic discussing whether electrical problems could somehow "infect" our PC components.

However, as I mentioned in that topic, I've started to think that maybe we should focus on something other than electricity.

The reason is that I've tested my PC in **3 different houses with 3 different ISPs**, and the issue followed me everywhere.

The only question I still have regarding electricity is whether electrical problems could somehow affect or permanently damage components in a way that causes the issue to persist.

Other than that, I don't really have any doubts left about electricity being the direct cause. One of those three houses was actually the place where I spent almost my entire gaming life, enjoying that perfectly smooth and responsive feeling we all remember. Yet when I went back there, I experienced the exact same issue.

After that, the only electricity-related theory I couldn't completely rule out was the so-called "infection" theory.

When I say that maybe we should start focusing on other things, please don't get me wrong. I honestly have no idea what else could be causing this either.

I simply wanted to hear your thoughts, theories, and experiences.

**Has anyone actually managed to identify the root cause of this issue rather than just finding a temporary fix? And more importantly, has anyone experienced the same problem across completely different PCs, houses, and internet connections?**

I believe that before we can truly solve this problem, we need to start exchanging ideas about what might actually be causing it.

Thank you all for your understanding.

[ablemor]

Hello, well there have been tons of threads like this, I think it's better to post there instead of opening a new one, you can't keep track of how many threads are created here every day.

As for the answer to your question, this is an electrical phenomenon, you need to get a spectrum analyzer to measure where the noise is the highest, and narrow down the scope. An average person won't be able to do this anyway, it requires some logic and knowledge, and many people don't even know the cause of the problem. Your cause could be completely different too.


I'm sure the 'floaty mouse' phenomenon is of electrical origin, but I'm also sure that if AMD or Intel took a closer look at the BIOS, this could be optimized at the BIOS level too, since there are tons of settings we don't know about, and I'm not talking about SCEWIN because that's just one thing... There are many setting toggles hidden from us that we can't access with anything.


Anyway, if you want to test cheaply, buy an older PC from before 2015, DDR2 or DDR3, and try playing on that, or try the PS2 port.

You could waste a ton of money here on nonsense, a UPS or EMI filter does nothing, everyone is acting smart here with things like Secure Boot and other gibberish, you basically shouldn't believe anyone here. Everyone should believe their own eyes, if someone writes that it got fixed for them, it's no guarantee it will work for you too. A universal solution doesn't exist yet. The Russians are also secretive on forums, it's a huge closed community, but if you want, you can check out what they are talking about.

[cerns]

Hello, well there have been tons of threads like this, I think it's better to post there instead of opening a new one, you can't keep track of how many threads are created here every day.

As for the answer to your question, this is an electrical phenomenon, you need to get a spectrum analyzer to measure where the noise is the highest, and narrow down the scope. An average person won't be able to do this anyway, it requires some logic and knowledge, and many people don't even know the cause of the problem. Your cause could be completely different too.


I'm sure the 'floaty mouse' phenomenon is of electrical origin, but I'm also sure that if AMD or Intel took a closer look at the BIOS, this could be optimized at the BIOS level too, since there are tons of settings we don't know about, and I'm not talking about SCEWIN because that's just one thing... There are many setting toggles hidden from us that we can't access with anything.


Anyway, if you want to test cheaply, buy an older PC from before 2015, DDR2 or DDR3, and try playing on that, or try the PS2 port.

You could waste a ton of money here on nonsense, a UPS or EMI filter does nothing, everyone is acting smart here with things like Secure Boot and other gibberish, you basically shouldn't believe anyone here. Everyone should believe their own eyes, if someone writes that it got fixed for them, it's no guarantee it will work for you too. A universal solution doesn't exist yet. The Russians are also secretive on forums, it's a huge closed community, but if you want, you can check out what they are talking about.

Thanks for your reply. I understand that there are already many threads about this issue, but I wanted to focus more on discussing the possible root causes rather than just looking for another fix.

I actually suspected electricity for a long time myself, and I still haven't completely ruled it out. However, after experiencing the same issue in three different houses with three different ISPs, I started wondering if there might be other factors involved as well.

I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts on the electrical side of this issue. Is there anything in particular that led you to believe electricity is the main cause? I'd really appreciate hearing more about your experiences or findings.

I'm also curious about the spectrum analyzer you mentioned. What kind of interference would we need to look for, and how could we tell whether it's related to the symptoms we're experiencing?

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. I'm just trying to understand this issue better and hopefully learn something from everyone's experiences.

[ablemor]

Yes, this is an electrical problem, I'm not an electrician, I don't have a degree or anything like that.

I am sure of it because I've replaced power supplies, motherboards, been on Intel platforms, nothing helped, I even had 10- and 12-layer motherboards and it did nothing. Once I tried a power supply with a Double Forward topology and the mouse immediately started behaving differently, although even this wasn't a 100% solution; I tried 2.4 GHz radiation, that also helped, I put a magnet on my PC case, that also helped, even though I measured everything with a multimeter and had grounding, everything looked perfect, I have an outlet tester, it showed 0.2V between neutral and ground.

Don't even buy USB EMI filters, that's a total waste of money, maybe buy a device that forces the device into FullSpeed instead of HighSpeed, that can also help a little bit, but that's not the main root cause anyway. My guess is the problem is between the monitor and the GPU. There was a time when I used a USB-C to HDMI adapter for my monitor and it got fixed, for example.

Currently, I work in this field, oh I forgot to mention, AMD officially notes that GPU memory can interfere with 2.4 GHz, as well as with RAM, yes, the memory, and not the core frequency, there are so many tiny details, they are just hidden from us. In a generally well-working house, there is probably a very strong grounding that is not tied to neutral.

Besides these, for example, the Y-capacitors on the power supply also matter, well anyway I won't list any further, I know a lot about this, I'll just say don't bother with reinstalling Windows 11, Secure Boot, and nonsense like that, pay attention to these, you shouldn't follow them.


There is a TinySA spectrum analyzer which is affordable for an average person, but I don't know how normal/reliable of a device it is, and I would immediately examine the DisplayPort or HDMI cable and nothing else. There is no point in examining the VRM anyway, plus I've tried a lot of frequencies since some motherboard manufacturers allow us to change the switching frequency, but it did almost nothing. By the way, if you take an AM radio, you can hear these things yourself too.

[cerns]

I've tried using different HDMI and DisplayPort cables as well. In fact, when I first switched to HDMI, everything suddenly felt incredibly smooth for the first minute or two, but then it quickly went back to how it was before.

That's actually what made me suspicious of HDMI and DP cables in the first place. I'm currently using a shielded DP 2.1 cable, but even that hasn't made any noticeable difference.

Still, as you mentioned, there does seem to be some kind of connection with the cables. Honestly, your theory makes a lot of sense to me, and I'm really curious about what could actually be disrupting the synchronization between the GPU and the monitor.

[ablemor]

Do you have a USB-C port on your motherboard? Get a USB-C to HDMI or USB-C to DP cable adapter and try it that way, does your monitor have a USB HUB? Plug in a 2.4 GHz emitting device like a dongle, or simply share 2.4 GHz from your phone or from your PC if it has built-in Wi-Fi, and try it out.

Yes, I think this is the main problem, there is another guy like this here on the forum, he blames the GPU, saying it's the VBIOS, which might be true, but we don't really have access to that, so I'm doing my research nicely. Oh, I forgot to say, ferrite beads and similar things don't help, at most a tiny bit if you know the frequency. Oh, and a tip... Use a monitor with an external power supply, not a built-in one!


With DisplayPort there is link training, which is why it might sometimes happen that the mouse feels better at times and worse at other times; if it's always bad, it could also mean that DisplayPort always settles on the exact same configuration. You could also try using an extremely short cable—maximum 0.5m instead of 1m, although this might not do anything.

[unexpected8]

Apologies, I’m using Google Translate.
We definitely need a thread to discuss this.
Personally, why do I suspect the electrical supply?
Because I’ve tested the setup in about four different houses, all to no avail. I even tried running the system solely on solar power—still no luck.
However, something strange happened: when I connected the PC case to a metal rod driven into the ground, the performance became excellent—no lag, and the screen colors looked truly vibrant. But an hour later, the problem returned. The odd thing is that any "fix" that works—even if only for a short while—never works a second time if you try to repeat it.
This points toward an issue with the electrical supply or grounding.
That said, I recall a reliable source mentioning that they once had an ASUS motherboard, and a BIOS update resolved the issue.
This is why I keep coming back to the idea that it might be an electrical issue, or perhaps related to voltage settings within the BIOS. So, you might be right—it’s possible that the manufacturers could resolve this.

[MK92]

The issue is high impedance of the wiring and "leaking" voltage drift between L and N, the PSU then fails to regulate the power for whatever reason even if the input power is still within allowed operating range and you get unstable +5V and +12V rails.

And just wait that the idiots would again move this thread to "other niche issues" sub-forum with "nO eLeCtRiCiTy tHrEaDs hErE" bullshit, even though 85% of problems that people have in this forum are directly or indirectly caused by power quality, not by windows software or bios or regedit or CMD settings or windows licence or whatever other bullshit people came up with.

[f1ndus]

Hello bro we are on the same line, but i am here already 9 years and no idea what causing it, also tested many many different locations not only with my setup but it happened on pure new setups in another countrys,citys.. like exactly same problem with same symptoms

[ablemor]

Actually, I understand if they move it, since there are types of input lag that aren't related to this, for example a bad driver or whatever. Maybe most people should know where to open the topic, it doesn't bother me.

But it's good to see that more people agree with this, and yes, this is EMI or RFI, grounding, and it can manifest in many places. Whoever falls for the Secure Boot, registry edit, and Windows problem deserves it... Let me whisper that I've tried Linux too.