Benq XL2430T Settings

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OOPUZ
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by OOPUZ » 14 Aug 2015, 12:56

Hey guys,

I bought this monitor yesterday and randomly bumped in while googling for settings. I have never had a monitor capable of these VT Tweaks and strobe utility kind of editing and I have not been able to find a step by step guide now that I want to try it on my new monitor. I dont seem to be able to enter the service menu to adjust if my monitor is single strobed or double :roll: probably failing it someway.

Also like I said, it would be nice to have a step by step guide since my head is all messed up with this tech talk and all the numbers. Im afraid i'll break my monitor :lol:

So could anyone be so nice to dedicate some amount of their time to make a step by step guide on what to do to make this tweak and settings work on a XL2430T so I cant evo it? Would appreciate it a shit ton :lol: I play pretty much only CS:GO, it is my main game :geek:

Falconk27
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falconk27 » 14 Aug 2015, 13:36

Yeah... I'm kinda running into the same problems unfortunately. I googled vertical total tweaks, but I still can't seem to figure out what they are. I got toasty running, and apparently it was running stock 60hz and didn't have a 144hz profile, unless I'm doing something completely wrong. It's running at 120 now with nvidia control panel/toasty. Other than that I put in your settings for the color profile, but it's super dark with blur reduction. So last question does force using blur busters work with this monitor? Or will I be breaking something if I do?

Falkentyne
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falkentyne » 14 Aug 2015, 14:00

Just check the Benq section. There's plenty of posts and a lot of step by step guides that have been written that will get you going. I spent a lot of time writing things and I really don't want to spend 15 minutes doing it again when it's there (it's rather tedious). You just have to take some time to read up.

As far as the service menu, there are two of them (and this should be in a sticky):

Strobe settings/primary service menu: Power off, hold Menu (button #4 going from top to bottom) for 5 seconds, press power+menu then release power and then release menu.

Burn-in (factory menu): Button 3+4 for 5 seconds while powered off, press power on while holding button 3-4 down, release power, release buttons.

On the XL2411Z, button #4 is button #2 apparently (middle button+button 2 should still unlock the burn-in menu).

Regarding the strobe phase setting:
Default strobe phase from the factory is optimized for lowest input lag (+1 frame ahead). This is strobe phase 100. This was designed to function similarly to the Lightboost accelerated scanout type pattern, which has the top of the screen with the lowest/no crosstalk, but since benq blur reduction does NOT use accelerated scanout, this comes at expense of a LOT of strobe crosstalk (the entire strobe pulse between frames/screen pixel transitions, etc) at the bottom. Lightboost uses accelerated scanout, which pushes almost all of the strobe crosstalk off the screen from the bottom.

Vertical Total tweaks (E.g. VT 1500/VT 1502 (both 100 and 120hz; VT 1500 on XL2720Z for 120hz, both for 100hz)/VT 1498 (125hz), VT 1501 (85hz) emulate accelerated scanout by increasing the screen vertical blanking period, so the panel has more time to complete pixel transitions (within the strobe pulse), which is actually sort of a scaler trick, where the monitor scaler is tricked (by a higher vertical total) into working with a larger "Virtual" screen panel height (e.g. VT 1500 as far as crosstalk is concerned, is like the screen is working with a 1440p vertical size instead of a 1080p size). You can find this out (I don't know if this will work or show up in the XL2430T) but in V4 firmware for XL2411Z/XL2420Z/XL2720Z), using a VT 1500 tweak and entering the BURN IN menu shows the vertical screen size (height) as 1440p instead of 1080p. Without a VT Tweak it shows 1080 (e.g. 1920x1080). With a VT Tweak, it shows 1280x1440 (not sure why the horizontal is changed). This horizontal size again affects the monitor SCALER...native resolution is unaffected, besides crosstalk for blur reduction being reduced, BUT the horizontal size being shrunk like this causes the monitor OSD (picture advanced->display mode) not to scale correctly, and the "aspect" setting becomes available at 1920x1080 when it should be greyed out(sort of obvious...the scaler thinks it's working at 1280x1440).

This applies to the Z monitors-again I do NOT know how this affects the XL2430T. The VT tweaks STILL reduce strobe crosstalk by the same % as the Z series--about 25% at VT 1500 (which is the same pixel increase you get from going from 1080 to 1440 vertically) so you have to test the OSD scaling options yourself.

Anyway: The strobe phase settings were optimized for lowest input lag (strobe phase 100). The default in XL2430T (which is called "Area" in the OSD and strobe phase in the service menu) may be different defaults, but WITHOUT a VT Tweak, strobe phase 100 has lowest input lag but horrible crosstalk at the bottom of the screen.

Strobe phase 0 (instead of 100) raises input lag by exactly ONE frame (but improves crosstalk at the bottom but depending on strobe DUTY, adds a little at the top (which increases as strobe duty (persistence/intensity (OSD) is increased). at 60hz that's 16ms of added input lag. 8.3ms at 120hz and 6.9ms at 144 hz.

(apparently in the XL2430T, strobe DUTY values are REVERSED from the XL2420Z), so Intensity 0 is brightest screen while intensity 25 is dimmest screen. I do NOT know if intensity 0= strobe duty 0 or strobe duty 25, however.

When using a VT tweak, strobe phase 100 will shut off the backlight. You will need to lower the Area (phase) setting until you reach the point where the backlight turns on, and corresponds "backwards" to strobe duty 001 (REGARDLESS of what the existing duty is...), then lower the strobe phase until you get the persistence you want. (I explained this clearly in another post before).

For 125hz @ 1498 VT: Strobe phase 047=strobe duty 001 (048 strobe phase shuts off the backlight).
120hz @ 1500 VT: strobe phase 050=strobe duty 001 (051 shuts off the backlight).
100hz @ 1502 VT: strobe phase 059=duty 001 (060 shuts off the backlight).
91 hz@ 1502 VT (I think it's strobe phase 067).
85hz @ 1501 VT (I forgot? (069?)

As masterotaku said, with a VT tweak, increasing strobe phase past a certain point DECREASES the strobe duty until you reach the points I gave you above, where going past it turns off the backlight, because the persistence can't drop anymore).

So for absolute lowest input lag, you want to keep those values in mind.
(note if the backlight turns off, and you cant see anything, you can just turn off blur reduction).

Falconk27
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falconk27 » 15 Aug 2015, 14:04

Thanks for writing this up! I've looked up the VT tweak numbers, and I think I have them set correctly
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. I installed cyber's icc profile (I think, it's in the window display icc settings) and used his settings for calibration. (some of the things like overscan are greyed out though). It's looking better on the primary game mode. Also, not using DP with the 970 helped a lot. Apparently it doesn't like DP.

The strobe thing still gets me though. I have the service menu set to
strobe duty 12
strobe phase 000
and the normal menu Blur reduction set to intensity 12 and area 0.
here are some of the alien invasion tests
http://i.imgur.com/6R1L2wv
http://imgur.com/II1vIj7

How do those look to you? It seems like there is a lot of ghosting, my phone camera wont focus on full screen but, the top row is generally out of sync with the bottom. Thanks for your help

Falkentyne
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falkentyne » 15 Aug 2015, 14:14

Looks fine to me! There will be some strobe crosstalk at the edges of the screen. This is unavoidable simply due to how panel refreshes work. It's fine with VT 1500.

drakefive55
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by drakefive55 » 21 Aug 2015, 11:59

On the benq website their is v2 software available for this monitor - How do I know what version mine has and how do I upgrade it

Falkentyne
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by Falkentyne » 21 Aug 2015, 14:33

There is not any firmware for xl2430T.

drakefive55
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by drakefive55 » 21 Aug 2015, 14:38

I just can't seem to get a good looking image on this monitor no matter what settings I use (I haven't used any of the VT tweaks settings or anything) I had the XL2411Z before this and I'm sure that monitor had better colors but it uses the same panel .....

drakefive55
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by drakefive55 » 22 Aug 2015, 08:06

CybeRFernandes wrote:** Updated at 13/08/2015 **

So, after almost a week tweaking and configuring out the BenQ XL2430T, i managed to get a balanced mix of settings i'm sharing with all you guys. The BBR tool wasn't needed at all since this monitor brings up the new Motion Blur Reduction which comes with Intensity and Area settings on the OSD (same as Strobe Duty and Strobe Phase) that take care of job. I've created a custom resolution of 1080p @ 120Hz with VT1500. Hope to help other XL2430T owners and I'll be looking for your opinions and sugestions :)

VT Tweak: 1500
Refresh Rate: 120Hz
BenQ Service Menu: Single Strobe ON
ICC Profile: http://www.displaylag.com/icc-profiles/ ... 0Final.icm

Gamer Profile 1 (Regular Usage):

1920x1080
Blur Reduction: ON
Intensity: 16
Area: 40
Black eQualizer: 0
Color Vibrance: 9
Low Blue Light: 0
Instant Mode: ON
Auto Game Mode: OFF
Picture Mode: Standard
Brightness: 90
Contrast: 50
Sharpness: 6
Gamma: Gamma 5
Color Temperature: User Define (R:98, G:100, B:99)
AMA: High
Dynamic Contrast: 0
Senseye Demo: OFF
Display Mode: Full
HDMI RGB PC Range: RGB (0~255)
Overscan: OFF

Gamer Profile 2 (Counter Strike: Global Offensive):

1920x1080
Blur Reduction: ON
Intensity: 16
Area: 40
Black eQualizer: 0
Color Vibrance: 18
Low Blue Light: 0
Instant Mode: ON
Auto Game Mode: OFF
Picture Mode: Standard
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 50
Sharpness: 6
Gamma: Gamma 5
Color Temperature: User Define (R:99, G:100, B:99)
AMA: High
Dynamic Contrast: 0
Senseye Demo: OFF
Display Mode: Full
HDMI RGB PC Range: RGB (0~255)
Overscan: OFF
I've just followed this guide making sure to set up a custom resolution for the VT and turning single strobe on in the service menu. What do you get by doing the VT tweak? It seems to make the monitor brighter? Also I'm not sure what turning single strobe to on does but I did it anyway - My monitor seems to look a lot better with your settings

Do you use the CSGO settings for all games or do you use the regular usage profile for games

drakefive55
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Re: Benq XL2430T Settings

Post by drakefive55 » 22 Aug 2015, 08:38

Also can some one tell me why when I switch profiles and go to http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php I'm only able to see the first box.....

Is this monitor broken ..... Seems to work fine when on 'standard' mode - What's the point of the profiles if it messes up the colors when you change them

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