BenQ Zowie XL2546S vs MSI Optix MAG251RX : Final Choice

[PirateNinjaInPijamas]

I'm sorry but I need to ask how is the 2546s the best tn ? Is there any reviews that can compare to other top tn's or am I missing something ? Cause I am interested in this monitor too. Thanks.

[vlkfree]

I'm sorry but I need to ask how is the 2546s the best tn ? Is there any reviews that can compare to other top tn's or am I missing something ? Cause I am interested in this monitor too. Thanks.

Nope it's just an assumption

the 2546 is in the top tier list, i think the 2546s will be the same
it's why i preorder it quickly before the sold out

i bought the msi too, because i think it's the better ips (but now with the test, i am not sure )
and i have the acer 240hz fast ips actually (i will refund it in few days)

[PirateNinjaInPijamas]

Waiting for your opinion then ! Neither of the 2 monitors are available in my country yet , and I will definitely try the Msi ! But I'm not sure about the 2546s. I think the omen x25f is very good to be beaten. Way better motion handling than my previous aw2518h, and the 2546 for all i've read (never owned ) never had a top motion handling except for dyac , which I'm not interested at all. Have fun testing your new monitors !

[jnashville]

U guys do realize there's zero difference in in game performance. 240hz mitigate the small g2g advantage the benq has to the point where it's impossible to tell the difference in performance.

What is noticeable are
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1. Bad viewing angles. U stand? Color shift. U recline your chair? Color shift.
2. Inaccurate colorz. Expect washed out tint and bad color uniformity
3. Even if u are facing the monitor directly forward, bcuz the corners are at an angle relative to your eyes, u will see distortion . Which means the corners may look black, or brown, or green, or they are non existent (black hole effect)
4. Useless outside of gaming. Dont bother watching movies or browsing the internet bcuz the whole color issues will come into effect. Its as if a unicorn barfed out colors and not in a good way like a typical oversaturated ips woild look.


Im not bashing TN, but bcuz there are ips panels that can do the same job, why buy one? Preference maybe? Or the placebo effect knowing u have a TN, that u can confidently play ur best bcuz u have a "TN". Who knows

Get the MSI, do ureally have to come here and have us tell u this?

What a bunch of nonsense. I'd go point by point over why you're wrong but why bother? You keep guerilla marketing IPS as if it's some brand new technology none of us has ever experienced. Those g2g differences and especially DYAC for FPS players is a huge difference. You're just some clueless kid that buys and returns monitors at Amazon's expense and thinks he is some monitor god as a result--you don't know shit, especially when you tried to claim your IPS pursuit pictures were clearer than the other guys TN ones when they clearly weren't.

For every other rational person on this board, wait for reliable professional reviews and then make a decision. When making a decision, use multiple sources of information rather than just one.

Same for me, i'll buy an oled 65c9 soon
It's why i want a panel only for competitive games, for the other i will use my LG because it's another world with the oled
But... sometimes, i'll need to stay on my computer and play with the display 25" (for other games too, it's why i need a good monitor 60hz and 100hz too)


Anyway, the first days I trusted your different comments @RLCScontender

But you seem to be a fanboy, and your way of speaking is not convincing

This is why I await more informed opinions concerning these two screens.
Like amezibra said, consult

Wise choice, the guy is a world class tool. He's lucky he's not on my forum, I'd have banned him long ago.

i agree.

he really seems to be a fanboy and promoting that MSI IPS panel.

for pure gaming, TN definitely wins IPS hands down.

he even put down the asus 280hz ips panel saying that it has a yellowish tint etc. I own the alienware aw2518h, benq xl2546 and t he asus 280hz vg259qm (the 25 inch variant) and i dont see a yellowish tint at all with the correct .icc profile installed.

dont take his words for it and all his bullshit claims.

[RLCSContender*]

Correction. Fast IPS and TN is the way to go. 2020 is the year the fast IPS panels has caught up to TN when it comes to performance at 240hz.

At 240hz, a TN user will have ZERO advantages over the fastest 240hz IPS user. The differences in results is attributed to skill, not any monitor advantages.

144hz, maybe u have an argument. 240hz however already adds a lot of motion clarity to the point where results are dictated by skill and NOT any negligible(non existent )differences in G2G pixel response times.

The 360hz TN, i am looking forward to purchasing.

[Chief Blur Buster]

At 240hz, [My Opinion is] a TN user will have ZERO advantages over the fastest 240hz IPS user. [My Opinion is] The differences in results is attributed to skill, not any monitor advantages.

[My Opinion is] 144hz, maybe u have an argument. 240hz however already adds a lot of motion clarity to the point where results are dictated by skill and NOT any negligible(non existent )differences in G2G pixel response times.

While 240Hz is definitely clearer the rest is false & disagree.

Ghosting and coronas are visible due to GtG issues, and the slowest GtG colors are often 5x slower than the fastest GtG colors. Nuances of a panel may not be distracting to you, but can be very distractng to a different person.

While it may be about scores too, it is not always about scores, but also about distracting artifacts too, or about wanting perfect symmetry at both left/right edges of motion, etc. I still see asymmetry in motion blur at 240Hz on both TN and IPS, currently 240Hz is doing it better. It looks like a haze/fog, and even a faint haze can sometimes be extremely annoying/distracting to some people. Even if the lag/scoring is the same. So respect that.

The visible issue is not negligible, just see LCD Motion Artifacts 101 and LCD Overdrive Artifacts. GtG issues are a large reason of why those differences exist.

All the variables feed backs into each other. Think about this, even if GtG speeds up by 240/144ths faster -- but if the screen motion speed up motion to 240/144ths original speed -- then the GtG limitations are equally bcak. Even things like enlarging screen size, raising refresh rates, screen size, and the GtG artifacts are as amplified again as it was for 144Hz. That is part of the Vicious Cycle Effect of faster motion making GtG limitations re-appear. If your eyetracking ability is not as fast as mine or someone else's to cover the 240Hz-vs-144Hz venn diagram, that's simply a vision difference between you and me. Yesterday people played at 320x200, then 640x480, then 1024x768 then 1280x1024 and so on, till we hit 1920x1080 as common. And the future of esports may even be 4K once the performance is there. This will all also feedback into the vicious cycle effect. At 4K, the number of pixels of motion blur at 480Hz is as visible 240Hz at 1080p, because the double resolution means twice as many pixels of motion blur over the same inch, so you need to double Hz. Or if you double screen FOV. Etc.