05/22/2020 UPDATE. The IPS 240hz monitor tier list.(I've measured/tried the all) and my honest explanation why.

[axaro1]

also what refresh rate do you guys play at on the 25" asus?

i always played at 280hz, i don't see the reason to use the monitor at 240hz but that's just my opinion.

-280hz
-OD80
-Brightness 90
-Contrast 75
-VividPixel 25-50 (it can helps in games with a poor anti-aliasing implementation, 25 can be used 24/7, 50 is more aggressive, I use it only to see enemies more clearly, for example when pixel peeking in Rainbow6 or playing snipers in Overwatch, sometime it gives a small competitive advantage)
Radeon Image Sharpening is a good alternative but there are no studies on how it affects input lag, I generally want to avoid any form of post-processing unless it's built inside the game engine.
-RTS/RPG Mode (or FPS Mode, I use Racing Mode only to watch movies)
-Adaptive Sync OFF
-ELMB (generally) OFF
-Gameplus -> Crosshair -> Green dot ALWAYS ON (this one is really useful in games like Apex Legends/R6S where you can't change the color of the crosshair, sometime the stock red crosshair blends too much with the environment or disappear unless you are looking thru the scope)

[RLCSContender*]

Thanks, i'll give that a try. And yes, i never played at 240hz becauase although it's fast, it's still slower than most TN. 280hz from what i've seen from the 27" version was the refresh rate to play on.

could you elaborate more on the colors(u sure it's not grainy? and also, how bad is the motion blur and how's the input lag from your point of view? is it snappy like any other fast 240hz monitor or do you see any delay? how's 60hz input lag? do you notice any noticeable input lag when u click on your mouse?

here's my old VG279QM, boy it was super ugly to look at(grainy) and has that horrendous input lag at 60hz fixed refresh. but gaming at 280hz was fun and there was so many ways i can beat TN (about 80% of ppl in Grand champ in rocket league use TN).







Also, my focal point was all over the place since the vg279qm is a 27" 1080p monitor was simply way too pixelated and the panel was TOO BIG thus my focal point created subtle delays on my reaction times because i had to move my head or retina/eyes. Whereas at 24.5" , my focal point was "just right" and i'm able to see everything on TOP of an added PPI boost. So yes, i stand corrected, 25" from what i've seen is superior to 27" when it comes to competitive gaming at 1080p. and this is coming from a guy who have alwyas played at 27" 1440p"

[RLCSContender*]

sounds to me, he has cleared up all of my reasons why i disliked about the VG279qm (input lag at 60hz, grainy look, low PPI, monitor too big for competitive gaming, and color uniformity was awful). . I ran two tests to verify if this review is real and it 100% is. The reviewer is a known critical reviewer and has wrote plenty.

the review below was flagged as a potenteial fake though on the review checker that i've used.

i'm quite excited. if it IS in fact the sister fast IPS AHVA IPS panel, then it's using the same exact panel as the MSI MAG251rx and AW2521HF and predator xb253q gx. This means that 60 OD on the 25" version isn't the SAME 60 OD on the 27" version.

i'm going to test 80 OD @ 280hz. It might break the MSI MAG251RX when it comes to g2g average since from what you've told me, 80 OD is more aggressive in this 25" model as opposed to the 27" model where it only provides 2-3% overshoot.


and yes, the MSI 251rx has the best overshoot/response time ratio among the ips panels i've tested. Where its overshoot is minimal enough(but not TOO aggressive) to drive a faster pixel response time. Some of the other 240hz IPS has 0% overshoot but the repsonse time isn't nearly as fast, which means they could've been more aggressive on the overshoot to drive the response time closer to 3ms

[axaro1]

The VG259QM is definitely not grainy, I didn't try 60hz gaming, the lowest I refresh rate I tried was 80hz with freesync in a really cpu-gpu intensive game and the input lag seemed on par with my 144hz tn at the same refresh rate.

Overshoot at 280hz on the VG259qm is IMO more than 2-3%, I think it's closer to 5% and somewhat similar to the MAG's 7%, there's no color inversion in Frog Pursuit's traffic lights, there's just a faint corona around the edges.

At 240hz its different, overshoot is imo around 10-15% (If I compare it to HU saying that OD100 at 280hz is 53% on the 27") and you can spot color inversion in the traffic lights, it's definitely usable, the higher refresh rate % inside the window compared to 280hz + the aggressive but non overexaggerated overdrive makes the motion clarity slightly similar to the +40hz from 280hz but with a higher overshoot level and overall less smearing, it's not unusable like OD100 and I often find myself switching to 240hz OD80.

240hz OD60 is a safe bet, there's no overshoot but motion clarity is worse than with OD80. Since I play a lot of FPS games I don't mind some overshoot if it means that the image is blur-free

Edit:
Comparing video settings:
- Scenery Mode = RTS/RPG Mode [it looks highly saturated, I mostly use these two modes which are absolutely the same, to play games/watch animes, with RTS/RPG mode you have control over shadowboost which you can't control with Scenery mode, that's literally the only difference]
- FPS Mode [IMO best all-around mode, good saturation and compatible with every kind of content, perfect for movies and good for gaming]
- Racing Mode [this mode is the default one, personally I find it too washed out and a little bit sad, I'm not a fan of this mode since it's inferior to FPS and RTS/RPG mode
- sRGB mode is basically Racing mode but darker, maybe a little more saturated but tbh I can barely tell.
- Moba Mode [just why does this mode even exist? everything is on a grey scale except red and green, I used a colormap and it's literally only red and green, even yellow which is red+green is on a grey scale, just why...]
- Cinema Mode [Blue is overly saturated, I activated the blue light filter Level 1 just for the lulz and it's actually not too bad xd, don't use it]

[74tm]

VG279QM came and I have yet another monitor from the same lineup with a dead pixel, but this time it's not in such a terrible spot on the monitor. I'll have to think if I'm going to return this or not.

That sucks, is that pixel visible on all colors? at least you have now the chance to compare both sizes curious which one
you like the most.
I think I will keep my monitor after all, the eye strain I got probably comes from my glasses.

I've just ordered this monitor and hearing about your experience kind of worries me. I have tried to make the jump to higher refresh rate monitors I tried the Zowie xl2430> viewsonic xg2402>aoc 24g2. The first two gave me really bad eyestrain, while the Aoc caused me slight discomfort. I can't trace the issue back to anything but FRC (temporal dithering). I have almost given up on getting a high refresh rate 1080p until I've seen that these 240hz ips panels are true 8 bit. Having given it time, does the eye strain get better? Have your previous 144hz+ monitors also given you some degree of eye strain or discomfort?

[RLCSContender*]

The pursuit I took isnt great, but it showcases just how terrible the overshoot is. 60 vs 80.

Just by looking at the Asus VG259qm UFO test, i can tell that there's some black level smearing @ tracefree 60. This means that in order to keep up with 280hz refresh, the monitor needs a to have a response time of 3.5ms to keep up within that refresh rate window.

OD (tracefree) 60 @ 280hz, the response times is slightly slower than the required 3.5ms refresh rate window to keep up with the 280hz refresh.

So basically, you really don't have a choice at 280hz refresh. You want black level smearing (undershoot) bcuz the response times isn't fast enough for the required 3.5ms response time for that refresh rate window at 280hz? or you want slight overshoot?

btw, looking at the overshoot, it's DEFINITELY not 22-25% because the alienware on "super fast" has a stronger overshoot and it's unfortunately unplayable. I'm guessing it's in that BORDER range. Fortunately, if this were a 144hz monitor, that kind of overshoot shouldn't be playable, but at 280hz, in PRACTICE i wonder how noticeable this overshoot really is? It's definitely stronger than the MSI, but bcuz there are mitigating factors that make borderline overshoot playable(280hz refresh, artefacts dissipate very fast to make it unnoticeable for most people, MPRT, etc)

however, with the UFO tests @280z refresh with tracefree 80, there's overshoot. Basically, do you want to tolerate slight pixel smearing or overshoot?

then again, if Tracefree 80 is playable(and won't cause distraction or show any noticeable artefacts) at 280hz, that would mean that the response times are in the mid 2.5ms g2g level which is knocking on the door with the fastest TN(Omen x25f/nitroxv272). actually, it's faster than the fastest tn just for the fact that 280hz>>>240hz and 40hz frame advantage is fairly large .

if tracefree 80 @ 280hz is playable and won't cause any distractions from glowing artefacts, that would mean that the Asus VG259qm is the fastest monitor in the world based off peak performance(280hz refresh @ around 2-3ms g2g(i'm just guessing here, i havn't tested the monitor yet and i'm watiing for it)

[RLCSContender*]

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actually, u really don't have much of a choice. You have to select OD 80 at 280hz bcuz a slower response time adds motion blur, and bcuz the monitor isn't fast enough to keep up with the 280hz, smearing will occur. Whereas if OD 80 is used, the response times will improve thus less motion blur AND no smearing; however, there will be inverse ghosting(although, it;s within the borderline level). Fortunately, 280hz will most likely make this work because in practice, the pixel smearing wasn't noticeable to me(And TFTcentral when he played on OD 80 at 280hz refresh. I wonder if the inverse ghosteing artefacts are noticeable at 280hz

[iopq]

So I just bought it, I'm wondering what the best settings are. So far I can either cap the game to 250 FPS (capping above doesn't actually cap anything, it goes 300+) or use VSYNC to get 280 FPS. Which one should be better? It's an RTS game, so pure speed is not necessary, but I did get a 280Hz monitor, lol

If I was you I'd set the refresh rate to 280 and enable freesync/gsync, you don't want tearing when you play an RTS game.

Should I avoid frame rates above 300? Or will freesync take care of that?

I could enable vsync in the game to cap it to 280, actually

[axaro1]

Should I avoid frame rates above 300? Or will freesync take care of that?

I could enable vsync in the game to cap it to 280, actually

Unless you are playing games where response time matters you'll be fine with freesync+vsync

[Moiler]

Hi everyone, new poster here, but devoted reader !

I'd like to thanks RLCScontender for his reviews on the new 240HZ IPS panels first because as I'm looking for purchasing one of these, I've been religiously reading every bit of information for a long time now, and those reviews def helps a lot.

I haven't purchased yet as I am waiting for the VG259QM review, but I'd like to ask if you could test if the ULMB (not the ULMB-Sync) at 120Hz-144Hz is usable or not as that would be my main use of VRB on this model.

Same question for the MSI mag251rx does the "Anti-motion blur" feature behaves 'ok' (meaning no artefacts/coronas or inverse ghosting) at 120-144hz ranges ? (I'm playing two kind of games where I'd like to use VRB when I cannot reach 240fps such as PUBG, and I'll probably turn it off when I play CS for example, but it's still nice to have the ability to just turn it off or on whenever I want !).

Also it might be a "noob" question but I'm not sure how the MSI Anti-motion blur features works do I have to lock my refresh rate @120Hz for example via the OSD and enable the antimotion blur setting to get it working @120Hz or should I go through CRU for example ? Will I still be able to have ~10bits colors ? (8+FRC) ?

Thanks anyway !