BENQ Zowie XL2746S Owners Thread

[kofman13]

What about non dyac+ videos? Any of those? Strobing hurts my eyes but keen to see non strobe performance.

this why im afraid to get the zowie, is there a point to get the new one if ur not gonna use dyac strobing? ( if it hurts my eyes). isnt the whole selling point dyac? will it be good as a good ips 240hz even without dyac?

As far as I know zowie monitors were never kings of g2g response or input lag (there were always faster and even cheaper monitors for that.
So in the case of XL2746s price mainly comes from Dyac+ and "hype". (just my opinion based on some observations)

so if im not gonna use dyac 24/7 then i should get a different monitor?

[PixelDuck87]

so if im not gonna use dyac 24/7 then i should get a different monitor?

Can only speak for myself... I personally can't dish out close to 700 euro on a monitor like its nothing without having full info on it. I'm going to wait for a PROPER detailed review of the 2746S/2546S first. No way I'm buying into a dyac randomly because some youtubers say it's pretty cool. Waiting for ryzen 4000 before upgrading monitor anyway...

[sosuyike]

700€ where in the world?

[PixelDuck87]

700€ where in the world?

In my country (Ukralne), they are overpriced as hell. Only one shop has the 27" S series atm for around 800eu so they will cost around 700eu once more shops have them.

[Dirty Scrubz]

What about non dyac+ videos? Any of those? Strobing hurts my eyes but keen to see non strobe performance.

this why im afraid to get the zowie, is there a point to get the new one if ur not gonna use dyac strobing? ( if it hurts my eyes). isnt the whole selling point dyac? will it be good as a good ips 240hz even without dyac?

As far as I know zowie monitors were never kings of g2g response or input lag (there were always faster and even cheaper monitors for that.
So in the case of XL2746s price mainly comes from Dyac+ and "hype". (just my opinion based on some observations)

so if im not gonna use dyac 24/7 then i should get a different monitor?

If you’ve got no use for DyAC then there are a lot of other monitors to choose from that offer the same or similar performance. If you can wait, then there are also 360 Hz monitors on their way. Also pixelduck is right, most of the YouTube reviewers are clueless and hype any product they get for free from the manufacturer. There’s only been one website (Korean) that actually bothered measuring performance and even then I don’t think they used an oscilloscope.

I stepped up from a 144 Hz ASUS GSync TN panel and this one is clearly faster in every sense but I don’t have the tools to measure it so that’s why I advise waiting for reviews if you can’t easily return it.

[nexina7350]

When are these fabled 360Hz monitors coming? Will they be TN? IPS? I'm wondering if I should upgrade from my XL2411Z (OC'd to 200Hz) or wait a bit.

[jorimt]

When are these fabled 360Hz monitors coming? Will they be TN? IPS? I'm wondering if I should upgrade from my XL2411Z (OC'd to 200Hz) or wait a bit.

This is the latest available news, I believe:
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/dell- ... announced/

Reportedly IPS, 24.5", 1920 x 1080, later this year.

[Conan]

Can someone address the "it feels faster with HDMI" issue?

[milojr21]

Can someone address the "it feels faster with HDMI" issue?

I think it just stems from fr33thy. Well here's what Chief says

I've seen some info that DisplayPort may reduce the amount of input lag in comparison to HDMI and DVI-Dual Link. I didn't believe it, but maybe I was wrong. DisplayPort can also support more colors or so say the system specs, but AFAIK, that doesn't mean that the monitor itself supports that many. For 120Hz displays such as Eizo FG2421, would there be an advantage to use one port over another?

The difference of input lag between DisplayPort vs HDMI vs DVI is less than 1 millisecond. So it's not a significant deal.

However, DisplayPort has the convenient ability to pre-transmit frames faster than a refresh cycle. Not all monitors take advantage of this, but some monitors (e.g. GSYNC) takes advantage of a faster transmission by pushing the frame from the computer to the monitor as fast as possible, independently of the current refresh rate. In the real world, the latency differences of different cable technologies usually won't be measurable in the fluctuations of other parts of the input lag chain.

<advanced-display-geek-tip>There is a way to reduce input lag further even on DVI via large vertical total tweaks (ToastyX Pixel Patcher + ToastyX CRU or NVIDIA Custom Resolution), such as using a 1502-scanline vertical total for a 1920x1080 signal, to force a higher dotclock at the same refreshrate/same framerate. This creates a higher dotclock (by padding the end of a refresh cycle with a large synchronization interval) that transmits the frame faster from the GPU to the monitor, reducing average input lag -- but only by one millisecond -- and impacts VSYNC ON more than VSYNC OFF -- and only on certain models of monitors capable of syncing to these unusually large blanking intervals -- and of those that do, properly scans out the refreshes out faster without a higher refresh rate. One example is the BENQ Z-Series monitor in Instant Mode</advanced-display-geek-tip>

TL;DR: The differences in input lag for DVI vs HDMI vs DisplayPort is less than a millisecond difference, for a given resolution & refresh.

[Chief Blur Buster]

Wow, I wrote that quoted post in year 2014.

That said, HDMI now also has the same capability, called Quick Frame Transport.

Quick Frame Transport Thread.

Obviously, on some monitors, programming screws up one input, creating much more lag on HDMI-than-DisplayPort. But I've also seen a situation where creating much more lag on DisplayPort-than-HDMI.

Now an older DIsplayPort spec can be laggier than a newer HDMI spec.
And an older HDMI spec can be laggier than a newer DisplayPort spec.
But the processing latency is a bigger problem, and hides this error margin.

Properly programmed HDMI / DisplayPort transceivers and signal synchronization (cable scanout = panel scanout), the lag difference of latest HDMI and latest DisplayPort is indeed less than 1 millisecond when you exclude those improperly programmed outliers.