[Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

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soprenko
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by soprenko » 18 Feb 2021, 08:00

blackmagic wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 07:39
mello wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 06:41
Just a question for everyone, regardless if you think this is about power/emi or about internet. What would be the reason behind things clearly improving (gaming wise) in winter, when there is lots of snow and low temperatures ? And the exact opposite happening in the hot summer ? One interesting thing is that summer should bring more people outside, thus lessening the usage of both internet & electrical devices and the exact opposite happens in winter when more people stay inside their homes and the usage of both internet & electrical devices increases. I have some thoughts and ideas about this but still wondering what other people think about that and if any of you have noticed this pattern (winter/summer) occurring ?
when i had no issues here..i could play black squad normal in summer/winter and enjoy other games online...didnt noticed any changes back then...it was always same and consistent at all time even after reboots...i could leave my pc 24/7 hours on and come back and it was still same good...

but when this issue hit me first time...i start to notice that it get's worse at early mornings or after some hours...that was the first symptoms here.
back then i was blaming my ISP for all that but still had no idea why it get's worse at late nights or early mornings (the time when all people normally go to work and leave house)...

but right now no matter what time i join a game = it feels like shitt and i notice very fast that something is not normal...
and it still feels like that after completely change everything and even try another apartment.

i think i have the most worst possible case with this issue and it seems like there is nothing that can fix it..

the only thing i not tried = power conditioner...(i'm very sceptic on this all and still believe that my issue must have something to do with internet or windows...maybe bios stuff).
rly hard to troubleshoot this but i know for sure that i'm not alone with this hard "placebos" and bad experience...still can't imagine that all of us have bad power, emi or ground...
fix does not exist and never be exist
fix in this case it's just a coincidence

in my case i switched everything except for PC
I switched steam account,facebook,e-mails i everything deleted
Bought new IPS with cables,modem
Bought new monitor (important)

I nothing did with electricity and i didnt meet this problem again.
I had this problem before on every place where i get my setup, or something i was using like accounts.
I do not know the explanation aboute this problem but this problem killed me few years ago, i started using drugs and my mom thought i am crazy

Unixko
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by Unixko » 18 Feb 2021, 12:34

soprenko wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 08:00
blackmagic wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 07:39
mello wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 06:41
Just a question for everyone, regardless if you think this is about power/emi or about internet. What would be the reason behind things clearly improving (gaming wise) in winter, when there is lots of snow and low temperatures ? And the exact opposite happening in the hot summer ? One interesting thing is that summer should bring more people outside, thus lessening the usage of both internet & electrical devices and the exact opposite happens in winter when more people stay inside their homes and the usage of both internet & electrical devices increases. I have some thoughts and ideas about this but still wondering what other people think about that and if any of you have noticed this pattern (winter/summer) occurring ?
when i had no issues here..i could play black squad normal in summer/winter and enjoy other games online...didnt noticed any changes back then...it was always same and consistent at all time even after reboots...i could leave my pc 24/7 hours on and come back and it was still same good...

but when this issue hit me first time...i start to notice that it get's worse at early mornings or after some hours...that was the first symptoms here.
back then i was blaming my ISP for all that but still had no idea why it get's worse at late nights or early mornings (the time when all people normally go to work and leave house)...

but right now no matter what time i join a game = it feels like shitt and i notice very fast that something is not normal...
and it still feels like that after completely change everything and even try another apartment.

i think i have the most worst possible case with this issue and it seems like there is nothing that can fix it..

the only thing i not tried = power conditioner...(i'm very sceptic on this all and still believe that my issue must have something to do with internet or windows...maybe bios stuff).
rly hard to troubleshoot this but i know for sure that i'm not alone with this hard "placebos" and bad experience...still can't imagine that all of us have bad power, emi or ground...
fix does not exist and never be exist
fix in this case it's just a coincidence

in my case i switched everything except for PC
I switched steam account,facebook,e-mails i everything deleted
Bought new IPS with cables,modem
Bought new monitor (important)

I nothing did with electricity and i didnt meet this problem again.
I had this problem before on every place where i get my setup, or something i was using like accounts.
I do not know the explanation aboute this problem but this problem killed me few years ago, i started using drugs and my mom thought i am crazy
but your friend findus doesnt change steam account he is playing on same account always

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nuggify
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by nuggify » 18 Feb 2021, 16:24

mello wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 06:41
Just a question for everyone, regardless if you think this is about power/emi or about internet. What would be the reason behind things clearly improving (gaming wise) in winter, when there is lots of snow and low temperatures ? And the exact opposite happening in the hot summer ? One interesting thing is that summer should bring more people outside, thus lessening the usage of both internet & electrical devices and the exact opposite happens in winter when more people stay inside their homes and the usage of both internet & electrical devices increases. I have some thoughts and ideas about this but still wondering what other people think about that and if any of you have noticed this pattern (winter/summer) occurring ?
Never noticed that pattern, I have good and bad days in the winter and the summer. The winter might be slightly better overall but nothing substantial. If there was a pattern there I would theorize that the cold temps are preventing or minimizing something that is overheating. Multiple power quality problems can cause overheating in cables, transformers etc. But I honestly am not sure that is the case as if that was I would think when it is extremely cold here I would see that correlate with the symptoms.

spkii
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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by spkii » 18 Feb 2021, 20:51

Another Question is, did you try to do stream OBS or StreamLabs on Computer? Its more laggy than normal and more delayed.

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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by spkii » 18 Feb 2021, 20:52

Another Question is, did you try to do stream OBS or StreamLabs on Computer? Its more laggy than normal and more delayed.


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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by Kamen Rider Blade » 20 Feb 2021, 14:45

Intel has been holding back ECC from the mainstream consumers since the inception of modern computing.

It took AMD with it's Zen line of CPU's to allow ECC onto mainstream consumer MoBo's.

Even then, implementation is still dependent on the MoBo vendors to implement on their end which has resulted in inconsistent and spotty support.

It took JEDEC and DDR5 to force 1-bit in package/silicon ECC and 2-bit detect so that everybody can finally get 1-bit ECC.

That's how badly Intel wants to keep us from having nice things like ECC.

Intel is such a greedy convicted monopolist, they've been holding back the entire PC / Computer industry for so many years, that's one of many issues with Intel.

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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by nick4567 » 20 Feb 2021, 16:40

https://gfycat.com/fairfakeduckbillplatypus from the alienware 360 hz monitor thats able to pick up latency see the spike to 200 and sometimes its so high it cant even compute the latency

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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by nuggify » 20 Feb 2021, 17:31

blackmagic wrote:
20 Feb 2021, 09:27
he is right...
people with "this" don't go anywhere because it's a hard handicap and even tryharding or having best accurate aim don't helps in this moments...


and many people (who experience this all at worse levels) probably go crazy when they first time notice that something works not more like yesterday or 1 hour ago...
this can cause much damage to health and psyche...

literally destroy you from the inside without use drugs.

and then this happens = brain.exe has stopped working.
Just because someone has floaty mouse, does not mean they have this problem. There are a vast amount of symptoms and equating just one to the presence of this actual issue does no one here any favors. Also if it is effecting your mental state as much as it is, maybe you should take a step back for your own sanity. I know I have had to do that in order to look at this problem logically. There is no other path to a solution.

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Re: [Power/EMI] I discover why sometime PC become fast and low input lag and otherwise feel high input lag

Post by nuggify » 20 Feb 2021, 20:33

blackmagic wrote:
20 Feb 2021, 19:12
nuggify wrote:
20 Feb 2021, 17:31
blackmagic wrote:
20 Feb 2021, 09:27
he is right...
people with "this" don't go anywhere because it's a hard handicap and even tryharding or having best accurate aim don't helps in this moments...


and many people (who experience this all at worse levels) probably go crazy when they first time notice that something works not more like yesterday or 1 hour ago...
this can cause much damage to health and psyche...

literally destroy you from the inside without use drugs.

and then this happens = brain.exe has stopped working.
Just because someone has floaty mouse, does not mean they have this problem. There are a vast amount of symptoms and equating just one to the presence of this actual issue does no one here any favors. Also if it is effecting your mental state as much as it is, maybe you should take a step back for your own sanity. I know I have had to do that in order to look at this problem logically. There is no other path to a solution.
i'm already over this mental thing because i'm awake here...

but there people that can go crazy because of that all when they become aware and notice that something is fishy and works not more normal like last year or last month...when they start to drop hard in k/d and losing more and more face to face fights...i know how this can make someone depressed and kills the last fun...specially then when you don't have idea why this happens and why everything become suddenly this unfair...

i think there gonna be much more talk about this all in near future and more people gonna check there sanity and health state because of that...

there many of videos on youtube if you type "hitreg" but not all has to do with "bad server" or "peeking advantage"...
these people are gonna realize that soon too when they get aware of this issues that exist...
Yes I agree many more people do suffer variations of this issue. But no not every "hitreg" video on youtube is this lol. Desync and hitreg can be caused by many things. Once you start ruling out hardware, software, network then maybe then it is something like this.

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