Help in deciding what to buy.

[Discorz]

Quick sum up:
XL24 - good MBR, aggressive overdrive, required factory menu tweak, no adaptive-sync, TN
XL25 - good MBR, aggressive overdrive too, not sure if it can be modified factory menu, TN
MAG25 - ok-ish MBR, high overdrive, locked OD
VG25 - bad MBR, aggressive overdrive, locked OD
X 25 - no MBR TN

[ahk1221]

Quick sum up:
XL24 - good MBR, aggressive overdrive, required factory menu tweak, no adaptive-sync, TN
XL25 - good MBR, aggressive overdrive too, not sure if it can be modified factory menu, TN
MAG25 - ok-ish MBR, high overdrive, locked OD
VG25 - bad MBR, aggressive overdrive, locked OD
X 25 - no MBR TN

so from these what would you recommend

[daviddave1]

Hello all, currently trying to decide which monitor to buy.

Looking for preferably a 144-240hz monitor, at 1080p. I play competitively a lot, more than anything, but I still do like to play story mode games here and there.

I currently have a Viewsonic XG2405, its a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor, and it has god awful response times, its basically the same panda panel as the one in the older 24G2 and idk how reviewers can say its good. pic for reference: https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uplo ... Test-3.jpg

So, naturally, I am a bit put off by IPS monitors. I don't want to make the same mistake again and buy another IPS which I end up regretting. However, at the same time, I do see that the top IPS monitors like the VG259QM and the MAG251RX have really good motion blur, so now I'm at a loss.

On the other hand, the Omen X 25 seems to be really good for its price, only issue seems to be its colors, which again dont seem that bad. Can someone guide me and help me buy a monitor thats worth its money and wont make me gouge my eyes out because of the motion blur.

Thanks in advance.

What games do u play competitively? There is a big difference between PUBG/Apex and Valorant/CS .

I just posted this in the Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF topic viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8580&start=730
maybe it can help u getting a better view on the market.


"

I also tried the TN Zowie XL2546K, the IPS Alienware 360hz and now the IPS Acer 390hz. Cause I play Quake Live and Quake Champions (besides PUBG) I prefer the IPS Acer 390hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K. I also prefer the Alienware 360hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K.

Inputlag is a huge factor in Quake Live. I tried Quake Live on the XL2546K and it was not good. I was a medium player with it.
On the IPS Acer 390hz ( and the TN XG2401 144hz! and the IPS Alienware 360hz) I am always at the top players. That's why I returned the XL2546K: I was not willing to give up the enjoyment of winning in Quake Live and then just be a regular player.
A plus also of the IPS Acer 390hz is the motionblur reduction (VRB) on 390hz!! That is very noticeable and nice! That the Acer 390hz is a little less bright with VRB on is not a issue in Quake. It is definitely worth it.

I also like to ad that your preference depends on your main game.

TGLTN pro PUBG player was ranting pretty hard in his stream after he had to play on a sponsored IPS 360 hz Alienware on a Korean PUBG tournament and lost early on. TGLTN ranted that he does not care about beautiful colors or inputlag in PUBG when there is motionblur. The Dyac and the TN panel on the Zowie XL2546K where essential for the lowest motionblur and best clarity possible. He literally said IPS is crap for PUBG. I don't think he only said that cause he just lost in the tourney.

I remember playing PUBG on the Zowie XL2546K the visibility was extremely good.

The colors of IPS displays are only superior on the esthetic side.

On the TN Zowie XL2546K u can change the colors and sharpness making the enemy's stand out like nothing else. It reminded me of a extra digital vibrance setting to make the enemy's "pop out" so they can't hide in the darkness or somewhere else.
For visibility (and thereby tracking the enemy's) the colors on the TN Zowie XL2546K are way better then the colors the IPS panels generate.

On most IPS panels u can't adjust the colors or sharpness. On the IPS Acer 390hz u can adjust the colors a little. But because of the low brightness the motion blur reduction (VRB) gives u not really notice it. Plus these settings cannot be saved! (Its a bug!)

On the IPS Acer 390hz with VRB on extreme there is more blur then on the TN Zowie XL2546K Dyac plus with VRB on extreme the Acer 390hz is not very bright.

If u only play PUBG and no other games the XL2546K is the best I think: U see enemies the best.

Having said that a game also like Apex will feel way more snappier on the IPS then on the TN. The lower inputlag on the IPS is definitely very noticeable.

When Zowie comes out with a 360/390/480 hz TN DYAC I will definitely give it a try. It will be the best of both worlds"

[Nm_kng]

Hello all, currently trying to decide which monitor to buy.

Looking for preferably a 144-240hz monitor, at 1080p. I play competitively a lot, more than anything, but I still do like to play story mode games here and there.

I currently have a Viewsonic XG2405, its a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor, and it has god awful response times, its basically the same panda panel as the one in the older 24G2 and idk how reviewers can say its good. pic for reference: https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uplo ... Test-3.jpg

So, naturally, I am a bit put off by IPS monitors. I don't want to make the same mistake again and buy another IPS which I end up regretting. However, at the same time, I do see that the top IPS monitors like the VG259QM and the MAG251RX have really good motion blur, so now I'm at a loss.

On the other hand, the Omen X 25 seems to be really good for its price, only issue seems to be its colors, which again dont seem that bad. Can someone guide me and help me buy a monitor thats worth its money and wont make me gouge my eyes out because of the motion blur.

Thanks in advance.

Go with the X25 and you won’t regret, yeah the VG259QM is a great monitor, but the X25 is even better.I’m not sure why people think IPS actually competes with TN, I had to learn it the hard way because I bought 3 monitors and had to return 2 TN’s and stick with the IPS one just because I preferred the colors. Imo it’s better than the XL2546K, but can’t compete with high tier 240hz’s like KD25F, XF252Q and the X25.

[ahk1221]

Hello all, currently trying to decide which monitor to buy.

Looking for preferably a 144-240hz monitor, at 1080p. I play competitively a lot, more than anything, but I still do like to play story mode games here and there.

I currently have a Viewsonic XG2405, its a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor, and it has god awful response times, its basically the same panda panel as the one in the older 24G2 and idk how reviewers can say its good. pic for reference: https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uplo ... Test-3.jpg

So, naturally, I am a bit put off by IPS monitors. I don't want to make the same mistake again and buy another IPS which I end up regretting. However, at the same time, I do see that the top IPS monitors like the VG259QM and the MAG251RX have really good motion blur, so now I'm at a loss.

On the other hand, the Omen X 25 seems to be really good for its price, only issue seems to be its colors, which again dont seem that bad. Can someone guide me and help me buy a monitor thats worth its money and wont make me gouge my eyes out because of the motion blur.

Thanks in advance.

What games do u play competitively? There is a big difference between PUBG/Apex and Valorant/CS .

I just posted this in the Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF topic viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8580&start=730
maybe it can help u getting a better view on the market.


"

I also tried the TN Zowie XL2546K, the IPS Alienware 360hz and now the IPS Acer 390hz. Cause I play Quake Live and Quake Champions (besides PUBG) I prefer the IPS Acer 390hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K. I also prefer the Alienware 360hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K.

Inputlag is a huge factor in Quake Live. I tried Quake Live on the XL2546K and it was not good. I was a medium player with it.
On the IPS Acer 390hz ( and the TN XG2401 144hz! and the IPS Alienware 360hz) I am always at the top players. That's why I returned the XL2546K: I was not willing to give up the enjoyment of winning in Quake Live and then just be a regular player.
A plus also of the IPS Acer 390hz is the motionblur reduction (VRB) on 390hz!! That is very noticeable and nice! That the Acer 390hz is a little less bright with VRB on is not a issue in Quake. It is definitely worth it.

I also like to ad that your preference depends on your main game.

TGLTN pro PUBG player was ranting pretty hard in his stream after he had to play on a sponsored IPS 360 hz Alienware on a Korean PUBG tournament and lost early on. TGLTN ranted that he does not care about beautiful colors or inputlag in PUBG when there is motionblur. The Dyac and the TN panel on the Zowie XL2546K where essential for the lowest motionblur and best clarity possible. He literally said IPS is crap for PUBG. I don't think he only said that cause he just lost in the tourney.

I remember playing PUBG on the Zowie XL2546K the visibility was extremely good.

The colors of IPS displays are only superior on the esthetic side.

On the TN Zowie XL2546K u can change the colors and sharpness making the enemy's stand out like nothing else. It reminded me of a extra digital vibrance setting to make the enemy's "pop out" so they can't hide in the darkness or somewhere else.
For visibility (and thereby tracking the enemy's) the colors on the TN Zowie XL2546K are way better then the colors the IPS panels generate.

On most IPS panels u can't adjust the colors or sharpness. On the IPS Acer 390hz u can adjust the colors a little. But because of the low brightness the motion blur reduction (VRB) gives u not really notice it. Plus these settings cannot be saved! (Its a bug!)

On the IPS Acer 390hz with VRB on extreme there is more blur then on the TN Zowie XL2546K Dyac plus with VRB on extreme the Acer 390hz is not very bright.

If u only play PUBG and no other games the XL2546K is the best I think: U see enemies the best.

Having said that a game also like Apex will feel way more snappier on the IPS then on the TN. The lower inputlag on the IPS is definitely very noticeable.

When Zowie comes out with a 360/390/480 hz TN DYAC I will definitely give it a try. It will be the best of both worlds"

I play mostly Fortnite, but I do play some COD and Valorant. Story mode games as well. But mostly Fortnite.
The Acer 390Hz and XL2546K are way too expensive, otherwise would've gone for the Acer.

My budget is mostly around the 300$ ish mark.

[ahk1221]

Hello all, currently trying to decide which monitor to buy.

Looking for preferably a 144-240hz monitor, at 1080p. I play competitively a lot, more than anything, but I still do like to play story mode games here and there.

I currently have a Viewsonic XG2405, its a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor, and it has god awful response times, its basically the same panda panel as the one in the older 24G2 and idk how reviewers can say its good. pic for reference: https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uplo ... Test-3.jpg

So, naturally, I am a bit put off by IPS monitors. I don't want to make the same mistake again and buy another IPS which I end up regretting. However, at the same time, I do see that the top IPS monitors like the VG259QM and the MAG251RX have really good motion blur, so now I'm at a loss.

On the other hand, the Omen X 25 seems to be really good for its price, only issue seems to be its colors, which again dont seem that bad. Can someone guide me and help me buy a monitor thats worth its money and wont make me gouge my eyes out because of the motion blur.

Thanks in advance.

Go with the X25 and you won’t regret, yeah the VG259QM is a great monitor, but the X25 is even better.I’m not sure why people think IPS actually competes with TN, I had to learn it the hard way because I bought 3 monitors and had to return 2 TN’s and stick with the IPS one just because I preferred the colors. Imo it’s better than the XL2546K, but can’t compete with high tier 240hz’s like KD25F, XF252Q and the X25.

Is what I was thinking as well, how much worse would you say the colors are on the X25 compared to the IPS? Considering I've been playing and using my IPS for over an year now, would it feel like a major downgrade?

[daviddave1]

Hello all, currently trying to decide which monitor to buy.

Looking for preferably a 144-240hz monitor, at 1080p. I play competitively a lot, more than anything, but I still do like to play story mode games here and there.

I currently have a Viewsonic XG2405, its a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor, and it has god awful response times, its basically the same panda panel as the one in the older 24G2 and idk how reviewers can say its good. pic for reference: https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uplo ... Test-3.jpg

So, naturally, I am a bit put off by IPS monitors. I don't want to make the same mistake again and buy another IPS which I end up regretting. However, at the same time, I do see that the top IPS monitors like the VG259QM and the MAG251RX have really good motion blur, so now I'm at a loss.

On the other hand, the Omen X 25 seems to be really good for its price, only issue seems to be its colors, which again dont seem that bad. Can someone guide me and help me buy a monitor thats worth its money and wont make me gouge my eyes out because of the motion blur.

Thanks in advance.

What games do u play competitively? There is a big difference between PUBG/Apex and Valorant/CS .

I just posted this in the Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF topic viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8580&start=730
maybe it can help u getting a better view on the market.


"

I also tried the TN Zowie XL2546K, the IPS Alienware 360hz and now the IPS Acer 390hz. Cause I play Quake Live and Quake Champions (besides PUBG) I prefer the IPS Acer 390hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K. I also prefer the Alienware 360hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K.

Inputlag is a huge factor in Quake Live. I tried Quake Live on the XL2546K and it was not good. I was a medium player with it.
On the IPS Acer 390hz ( and the TN XG2401 144hz! and the IPS Alienware 360hz) I am always at the top players. That's why I returned the XL2546K: I was not willing to give up the enjoyment of winning in Quake Live and then just be a regular player.
A plus also of the IPS Acer 390hz is the motionblur reduction (VRB) on 390hz!! That is very noticeable and nice! That the Acer 390hz is a little less bright with VRB on is not a issue in Quake. It is definitely worth it.

I also like to ad that your preference depends on your main game.

TGLTN pro PUBG player was ranting pretty hard in his stream after he had to play on a sponsored IPS 360 hz Alienware on a Korean PUBG tournament and lost early on. TGLTN ranted that he does not care about beautiful colors or inputlag in PUBG when there is motionblur. The Dyac and the TN panel on the Zowie XL2546K where essential for the lowest motionblur and best clarity possible. He literally said IPS is crap for PUBG. I don't think he only said that cause he just lost in the tourney.

I remember playing PUBG on the Zowie XL2546K the visibility was extremely good.

The colors of IPS displays are only superior on the esthetic side.

On the TN Zowie XL2546K u can change the colors and sharpness making the enemy's stand out like nothing else. It reminded me of a extra digital vibrance setting to make the enemy's "pop out" so they can't hide in the darkness or somewhere else.
For visibility (and thereby tracking the enemy's) the colors on the TN Zowie XL2546K are way better then the colors the IPS panels generate.

On most IPS panels u can't adjust the colors or sharpness. On the IPS Acer 390hz u can adjust the colors a little. But because of the low brightness the motion blur reduction (VRB) gives u not really notice it. Plus these settings cannot be saved! (Its a bug!)

On the IPS Acer 390hz with VRB on extreme there is more blur then on the TN Zowie XL2546K Dyac plus with VRB on extreme the Acer 390hz is not very bright.

If u only play PUBG and no other games the XL2546K is the best I think: U see enemies the best.

Having said that a game also like Apex will feel way more snappier on the IPS then on the TN. The lower inputlag on the IPS is definitely very noticeable.

When Zowie comes out with a 360/390/480 hz TN DYAC I will definitely give it a try. It will be the best of both worlds"

I play mostly Fortnite, but I do play some COD and Valorant. Story mode games as well. But mostly Fortnite.
The Acer 390Hz and XL2546K are way too expensive, otherwise would've gone for the Acer.

My budget is mostly around the 300$ ish mark.

The Acer 390hz is $349.99 now at microcenter: https://www.microcenter.com/product/638 ... ng-monitor You have to hussle some $49! its worth it!!

[ahk1221]

Hello all, currently trying to decide which monitor to buy.

Looking for preferably a 144-240hz monitor, at 1080p. I play competitively a lot, more than anything, but I still do like to play story mode games here and there.

I currently have a Viewsonic XG2405, its a 144Hz 1080p IPS monitor, and it has god awful response times, its basically the same panda panel as the one in the older 24G2 and idk how reviewers can say its good. pic for reference: https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uplo ... Test-3.jpg

So, naturally, I am a bit put off by IPS monitors. I don't want to make the same mistake again and buy another IPS which I end up regretting. However, at the same time, I do see that the top IPS monitors like the VG259QM and the MAG251RX have really good motion blur, so now I'm at a loss.

On the other hand, the Omen X 25 seems to be really good for its price, only issue seems to be its colors, which again dont seem that bad. Can someone guide me and help me buy a monitor thats worth its money and wont make me gouge my eyes out because of the motion blur.

Thanks in advance.

What games do u play competitively? There is a big difference between PUBG/Apex and Valorant/CS .

I just posted this in the Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF topic viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8580&start=730
maybe it can help u getting a better view on the market.


"

I also tried the TN Zowie XL2546K, the IPS Alienware 360hz and now the IPS Acer 390hz. Cause I play Quake Live and Quake Champions (besides PUBG) I prefer the IPS Acer 390hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K. I also prefer the Alienware 360hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K.

Inputlag is a huge factor in Quake Live. I tried Quake Live on the XL2546K and it was not good. I was a medium player with it.
On the IPS Acer 390hz ( and the TN XG2401 144hz! and the IPS Alienware 360hz) I am always at the top players. That's why I returned the XL2546K: I was not willing to give up the enjoyment of winning in Quake Live and then just be a regular player.
A plus also of the IPS Acer 390hz is the motionblur reduction (VRB) on 390hz!! That is very noticeable and nice! That the Acer 390hz is a little less bright with VRB on is not a issue in Quake. It is definitely worth it.

I also like to ad that your preference depends on your main game.

TGLTN pro PUBG player was ranting pretty hard in his stream after he had to play on a sponsored IPS 360 hz Alienware on a Korean PUBG tournament and lost early on. TGLTN ranted that he does not care about beautiful colors or inputlag in PUBG when there is motionblur. The Dyac and the TN panel on the Zowie XL2546K where essential for the lowest motionblur and best clarity possible. He literally said IPS is crap for PUBG. I don't think he only said that cause he just lost in the tourney.

I remember playing PUBG on the Zowie XL2546K the visibility was extremely good.

The colors of IPS displays are only superior on the esthetic side.

On the TN Zowie XL2546K u can change the colors and sharpness making the enemy's stand out like nothing else. It reminded me of a extra digital vibrance setting to make the enemy's "pop out" so they can't hide in the darkness or somewhere else.
For visibility (and thereby tracking the enemy's) the colors on the TN Zowie XL2546K are way better then the colors the IPS panels generate.

On most IPS panels u can't adjust the colors or sharpness. On the IPS Acer 390hz u can adjust the colors a little. But because of the low brightness the motion blur reduction (VRB) gives u not really notice it. Plus these settings cannot be saved! (Its a bug!)

On the IPS Acer 390hz with VRB on extreme there is more blur then on the TN Zowie XL2546K Dyac plus with VRB on extreme the Acer 390hz is not very bright.

If u only play PUBG and no other games the XL2546K is the best I think: U see enemies the best.

Having said that a game also like Apex will feel way more snappier on the IPS then on the TN. The lower inputlag on the IPS is definitely very noticeable.

When Zowie comes out with a 360/390/480 hz TN DYAC I will definitely give it a try. It will be the best of both worlds"

I play mostly Fortnite, but I do play some COD and Valorant. Story mode games as well. But mostly Fortnite.
The Acer 390Hz and XL2546K are way too expensive, otherwise would've gone for the Acer.

My budget is mostly around the 300$ ish mark.

The Acer 390hz is $349.99 now at microcenter: https://www.microcenter.com/product/638 ... ng-monitor You have to hussle some $49! its worth it!!

Not in the US unfortunately.

[daviddave1]

What games do u play competitively? There is a big difference between PUBG/Apex and Valorant/CS .

I just posted this in the Acer 390Hz monitor - XV252QF topic viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8580&start=730
maybe it can help u getting a better view on the market.


"

I also tried the TN Zowie XL2546K, the IPS Alienware 360hz and now the IPS Acer 390hz. Cause I play Quake Live and Quake Champions (besides PUBG) I prefer the IPS Acer 390hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K. I also prefer the Alienware 360hz compared to the TN Zowie XL2546K.

Inputlag is a huge factor in Quake Live. I tried Quake Live on the XL2546K and it was not good. I was a medium player with it.
On the IPS Acer 390hz ( and the TN XG2401 144hz! and the IPS Alienware 360hz) I am always at the top players. That's why I returned the XL2546K: I was not willing to give up the enjoyment of winning in Quake Live and then just be a regular player.
A plus also of the IPS Acer 390hz is the motionblur reduction (VRB) on 390hz!! That is very noticeable and nice! That the Acer 390hz is a little less bright with VRB on is not a issue in Quake. It is definitely worth it.

I also like to ad that your preference depends on your main game.

TGLTN pro PUBG player was ranting pretty hard in his stream after he had to play on a sponsored IPS 360 hz Alienware on a Korean PUBG tournament and lost early on. TGLTN ranted that he does not care about beautiful colors or inputlag in PUBG when there is motionblur. The Dyac and the TN panel on the Zowie XL2546K where essential for the lowest motionblur and best clarity possible. He literally said IPS is crap for PUBG. I don't think he only said that cause he just lost in the tourney.

I remember playing PUBG on the Zowie XL2546K the visibility was extremely good.

The colors of IPS displays are only superior on the esthetic side.

On the TN Zowie XL2546K u can change the colors and sharpness making the enemy's stand out like nothing else. It reminded me of a extra digital vibrance setting to make the enemy's "pop out" so they can't hide in the darkness or somewhere else.
For visibility (and thereby tracking the enemy's) the colors on the TN Zowie XL2546K are way better then the colors the IPS panels generate.

On most IPS panels u can't adjust the colors or sharpness. On the IPS Acer 390hz u can adjust the colors a little. But because of the low brightness the motion blur reduction (VRB) gives u not really notice it. Plus these settings cannot be saved! (Its a bug!)

On the IPS Acer 390hz with VRB on extreme there is more blur then on the TN Zowie XL2546K Dyac plus with VRB on extreme the Acer 390hz is not very bright.

If u only play PUBG and no other games the XL2546K is the best I think: U see enemies the best.

Having said that a game also like Apex will feel way more snappier on the IPS then on the TN. The lower inputlag on the IPS is definitely very noticeable.

When Zowie comes out with a 360/390/480 hz TN DYAC I will definitely give it a try. It will be the best of both worlds"

I play mostly Fortnite, but I do play some COD and Valorant. Story mode games as well. But mostly Fortnite.
The Acer 390Hz and XL2546K are way too expensive, otherwise would've gone for the Acer.

My budget is mostly around the 300$ ish mark.

The Acer 390hz is $349.99 now at microcenter: https://www.microcenter.com/product/638 ... ng-monitor You have to hussle some $49! its worth it!!

Not in the US unfortunately.

I thought microcenter was us based. well that sucks!!

[ahk1221]

I meant I am not in the US