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by Discorz » 03 Apr 2022, 06:42
Fnaticx wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 10:04
Yo i bought this monitor since July 2021 and i keep hearing about Aim Stabilizer Sync and that it works for 85hz the only thing i got is Aim Stabilizer On/Off and every time free sync is On Aim stabilizer turns off so can someone please tell me how to enable Aim Stabilizer (BFI) and Freesync at the same time? can't believe i have the monitor for so long and don't know how to set that up, thank you.
That is weird. It should allow you to enable both. What gpu do u have? Do u use HDMI or DP?
Try enabling FreeSync first and Aim Stabilizer second. Just to make sure set monitor to 100 Hz or higher refresh rate when doing so. Then change to desired refresh rate afterwards. Maybe updating firmware helps. U can check current version with osd sidekick or in factory menu.
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by Fnaticx » 03 Apr 2022, 08:29
My OSD Sidekick version is B21.0325.1 and FIrmware Version: F02 so latest
I try to do what you ask and in the OSD Sidekick and didn't work and then using the monitor physical panel settings enabling Free sync first and then Aim Stabilizer worked no idea why i used the software and didn't try through the monitor instead.
But one of the things that i can't figure it out is that when watching HUnbox He said while using Aim Stabilizer Sync it could go as low as 85hz and when i try to make a custom resolution for that and switch Aim stabilizer gets disable. I got another monitor with ULMB and it does does 85hz while strobbing and the Dell 27 that i got i love when you go down on resolution you get more brightness i love the M32Q but to have 100 brightness while on Aim stabilizer (BFI) is kinda horrible need to raise the contrast just to see anything.
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by RealNC » 04 Apr 2022, 00:09
Fnaticx wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 08:29
But one of the things that i can't figure it out is that when watching HUnbox He said while using Aim Stabilizer Sync it could go as low as 85hz and when i try to make a custom resolution for that and switch Aim stabilizer gets disable.
I believe it means 85FPS. I assume the best setup to use with VRR + BFI is putting the monitor at the highest Hz mode. If you were going to put it in 85Hz mode, then why use VRR to begin with? VRR is there to match FPS and Hz, and to do that, the monitor should be in its highest Hz mode so that VRR can then adapt it depending on game FPS.
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by Discorz » 04 Apr 2022, 01:43
RealNC wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 00:09
I believe it means 85FPS. I assume the best setup to use with VRR + BFI is putting the monitor at the highest Hz mode. If you were going to put it in 85Hz mode, then why use VRR to begin with? VRR is there to match FPS and Hz, and to do that, the monitor should be in its highest Hz mode so that VRR can then adapt it depending on game FPS.
Ideally yes. Unfortunately all implementations we have so far get worse as framerate decreases due to inclusion of pwm fill as a brightness compensation. Meaning only refresh rate monitor is set to will be single strobed without pwm fill and it is most effective within a very small fps range (maybe 20-30-ish). Kinda pointless actually. We're still waiting for someone to implement it properly. VG27AQ came out first long time ago and noone fixed it since.
Fnaticx wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 08:29
My OSD Sidekick version is B21.0325.1 and FIrmware Version: F02 so latest
I try to do what you ask and in the OSD Sidekick and didn't work and then using the monitor physical panel settings enabling Free sync first and then Aim Stabilizer worked no idea why i used the software and didn't try through the monitor instead.
But one of the things that i can't figure it out is that when watching HUnbox He said while using Aim Stabilizer Sync it could go as low as 85hz and when i try to make a custom resolution for that and switch Aim stabilizer gets disable. I got another monitor with ULMB and it does does 85hz while strobbing and the Dell 27 that i got i love when you go down on resolution you get more brightness i love the M32Q but to have 100 brightness while on Aim stabilizer (BFI) is kinda horrible need to raise the contrast just to see anything.
Not sure why is that, mine works fine both ways. All I know is Aim Stabilizer works for
fixed refresh rates between 100-170 Hz while Aim Stabilizer + FreeSync works for 75-170 Hz. Yours seem to bug into freesync off mode. Enable it through OSD than. If u're unsure if freesync is active enable refresh rate counter to check if its fluctuating. Use
Smooth Frog for testing VRR.
I wouldn't recommend using it at such low refresh rate anyways. Because if frame rate is not stable enough and dips below 75 (real minimum) it will disable strobing and stay off until it goes back above the minimum limit. That switch is noticeable and distracting.
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by Fnaticx » 06 Apr 2022, 04:39
RealNC & Discorz The game i play is capped to 88FPS and it doesn't go down in FPS is and easy game to run meaning if i use my DELL monitor STROBBING AT 85HZ on my nvidia control panel it looks amazing perfect motion because the game FPS and the monitor are parallel if i use the M32Q at 100-170hz because is not the right FPS it doesn't look that great Not all the scenarios and not all the games can be played at higher frames. Now Discorz you mention that Aim Stabilizer + Freesync works for 75-170hz but my question is can you set the monitor to do strobbing with freesync at 85hz custom resolution and it will work? Meaning the monitor settings would be 85hz not 100-170hz Because i believe with the information now that you provided that's a no. You probably meant to said that it will work 75-170 a game FPS for G sync/freesync to do hes job but while having the monitor refresh rate set to 100-170hz on (example nvidia control panel) i though that the monitor could do strobbing with freesync at 85hz like my DEll can do strobbing at 85hz without g sync of course. Anyways i have smooth frog i am going to try to test the VRR to see if my monitor is working properly with the Aim Stabilizer Sync i appreciate everyone's respond btw and again M32Q strobbing at 100 Nits is ridiculous i am thinking of getting another 32 inch 1440p monitor that can have more brightness while strobbing.
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by Discorz » 06 Apr 2022, 10:26
Yes fps needs to be equalt to Hz (or x2, x4...) for best quality strobing, with as flat as possible frametimes.
Yes you can strobe at any custom resolution. With freesync between 75-170 Hz and 100-170 Hz without. VRR range is also 75-170 as said in review.
I'm afraid there are no good vrr strobing monitors at 32" size. You can make the aim stabilizer appear brighter with gamma, contrast and black equlizer settings.
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by Fnaticx » 10 Apr 2022, 12:29
Yes i have to actually raise the contrast and other settings to have it like that. There's actually a new monitor that got reviewed recently from TFT central the name is Gigabyte Aorus FI32Q X and the new one does 270hz while strobbing it has a brightness of 240-250 nits but cannot be customized. *Adaptive-sync for VRR, including FreeSync Premium Pro certification
Speaking of strobbing i try to setup custom resolution at 85hz on the NVIDIA control panel and activating free sync and then strobbing on the Monitor menu strobbing doesn't seem to be working.
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by Discorz » 12 Apr 2022, 10:08
I've seen the FI32Q-X review and it most likely uses same vrr strobing implementation as other gigabyte monitors, except its brighter (due to use of longer pulse width - less sharp motion). You still need to set monitor to 85Hz to benefit from strobing at low refresh rates, meaning no latency reduciton benefits. And that is not the only issue. There is currently 0 good vrr strobing monitors on the market and I'd suggest to wait for things to improve. That might take a few years tho.
I used
Custom Resolution Utility for new resolutions and I'm on AMD. Deleted tv resolutions block and other unnecessary existing resolutions...