Angel Soler wrote: ↑14 Jun 2022, 02:27
Angel Soler wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 00:47
Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑09 Jun 2022, 20:03
Angel Soler wrote: ↑09 Jun 2022, 15:47
I have been very disappointed with the XG2431 with its strobe mode at 60hz on consoles.
I don't know if there's something I'm not doing right, but the XL2411P has a better strobe mode on consoles.
The crosstalk is finer, takes up less screen, and the brightest area is sharper on the XL2411P. I am sure that on PC it will improve thanks to the vertical total, but I wanted the monitor only for consoles.
I hope it's that I'm not doing something right and I'm wrong
What are your current strobe tuning settings?
Are you using the existing PureXP settings (Light, Normal, Extreme, Ultra) or the Custom setting?
Also, general recommendation for all strobed displays:
Did you break in the monitor for at least 24 hours, preferably 72 hours? (Also recommended for XL2411P strobe crosstalk minimization too). Also remember to warm up the panel for at least 30 minutes if it was already turned off, especially in a cool/cold room.
If using Custom, you can re-tune 1080p 60Hz VT1125 on a PC, and then disconnect the PC and then connect to a console.
While large vertical totals help, there should already be zero crosstalk for screen centre (similar to RTINGS photo) even on consoles. If your XG2431 looks worse than the 60Hz RTINGS pursuit photos, then something is wrong (e.g. panel lottery) -- As a last resort, you can try a "Factory Reset" (Memory Recall).
You can post here in these forums or send me a PM (your preference)
I've done most of the things you mentioned, but not all of them. I'm going to do them all and I'll take photos to show them in the forum, see if you can advise me. Thank you very much for your interest
After a break-in period and after some fine tuning I have to say that I am impressed with the XG2431.
I was wrong in my first impression.
The monitor is wonderful.
To say that I am a CRT enthusiast (until a couple of years ago I was playing on a SONY 21 CRT).
I only play on console (60hz) and until now I was playing with the XL2411p.
I was very happy, but it is true that the crosstalk was very visible in certain areas.
With the XG2431, it's as if the crosstalk is softer, less pronounced, and in a real game it goes completely unnoticed.
This is as close as there is to the SONY CRT, hands down.
And I still have to give it more break-in time, and then it will improve even more
In short, very happy with the monitor.
The definitive screen for nostalgic of the CRT.
Many thanks to Chief for all his advice and directions
Excellent to hear, I'm glad that the XG2431 has improved to the point where it is very comparable to CRT for you!
I always recommend everyone at
www.blurbusters.com/xg2431 to give their XG2431 LCD time to "break in".
The liquid in the
Liquid Crystal Display (L.C.D.) is a fluid between two glass layers, and is not always evenly distributed (e.g. shipping, pressure spots, fresh off the factory line), so it takes a few dozens of hours for LCD GtG to speed up and stabilize to its final pixel response speeds.
Know how pressing a finger on an LCD distorts the blacks of an LCD, and takes seconds to resolve itself? Likewise, pressure from tight bezels (pressure in shipping box), or even things pressing against the screen surface during shipping, the twisting/pressing/weight of stacked boxes, and the shipping orientiations (shipped flat or wrong way up), can cause the same problem but can take hours to resolve itself -- can take 10-to-100 hours to get from a terrible black screen to a more normal IPS glow (assuming no edge bleed defects or other panel defects). This also creates GtG nonuniformities, where one part of screen might have faster GtG than another part, at least until the fluid is evenly distributed in the glass sandwich of an LCD panel.
Break in also helps make black uniformity reach its final levels more quickly (time for pressure spots, created during shipping, to diminish). This is a problem for all LCDs, not just XG2431.
The black uniformity behavior of a freshly unboxed panel can be a mishmash of IPS glow (symmetric) and pressure spots (asymmetric) or backlight bleed (defect). The black uniformity is a superset of all 3! But the magic is 1 out of 3 can fully disappear with break-in, leaving behind the rest (which might not be too bad). After burning in 24/7 at 100% brightness, the pressure spots disappear, leaving hopefully just the IPS glow (normal).
This is a recommendation I tell anyone of a newly unboxed monitor to do -- give enough time for breakin before judging its black uniformity. We have other threads of people remarking improved black uniformity after break-in. Good reviewers like RTINGS already know to break in before testing LCD GtG, strobe crosstalk, and photographing black uniformity. (And if they don't break in the monitor first, then tell them to!).
Strobe tuning is super-sensitive to tiny LCD GtG pixel response differences. That's why I convinced ViewSonic to release a Strobe Utility to let users fine-tune strobing -- different monitors often need slightly different strobe settings to get best results.
I'm glad your panel appears to be performing much better now!