How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

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DPRTMELR
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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by DPRTMELR » 14 Jul 2022, 14:10

joseph_from_pilsen wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 12:59
triplese wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 04:23
a_c_r_e_a_l wrote:
13 Jul 2022, 23:02
BTW, my reaction is ~185-200ms, so I'm not slowpoke.
You are...

here is mine in 35yo https://humanbenchmark.com/users/5cd5bd ... 0001ee0a3a
https://humanbenchmark.com/users/62d069 ... actiontime

i know aging is a bitch but I remember seeing two digits on windows xp (by cheating with peripheral vision response and posture ready to click) rip youth but you could just blame it on windows 10 for the absolute number and just compare yourself with percentile graphs

I am gonna give it a go tomorrow after the morning coffee, I am not even closing on 40 and yet I can barely break 150ms :((
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Unreazz
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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by Unreazz » 14 Jul 2022, 15:37

Uhm..... if you guys suffering from desync and a VPN was the only thing which ever helped even for 2 hours, than you can be to 100% sure that youre problem is "internet" sided. i have the feeling that most of the people here rather believe in curses like "My Steam Account is infected" instead of this.

What bothers me is simply that no one takes it that seriously that even internet can have a very immense impact on your gameplay. People only look at the ping, if it's good and exclude the internet right away. "Then it must be something with the power !!!! Because my ping is so and so blah blah blah.

Please remember one thing. Not everyone who is connected to the internet will have the same gaming experience as others. Some people like Shroud have an immense advantage and others suffer no matter how good the ping is.

texre
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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by texre » 14 Jul 2022, 15:54

Unreazz wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 15:37
Uhm..... if you guys suffering from desync and a VPN was the only thing which ever helped even for 2 hours, than you can be to 100% sure that youre problem is "internet" sided. i have the feeling that most of the people here rather believe in curses like "My Steam Account is infected" instead of this.

What bothers me is simply that no one takes it that seriously that even internet can have a very immense impact on your gameplay. People only look at the ping, if it's good and exclude the internet right away. "Then it must be something with the power !!!! Because my ping is so and so blah blah blah.

Please remember one thing. Not everyone who is connected to the internet will have the same gaming experience as others. Some people like Shroud have an immense advantage and others suffer no matter how good the ping is.
i have fiber 500 up 500 down 5 ping 2 jitter and it still could be my internet?

DPRTMELR
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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by DPRTMELR » 14 Jul 2022, 17:56

texre wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 15:54
Unreazz wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 15:37
Uhm..... if you guys suffering from desync and a VPN was the only thing which ever helped even for 2 hours, than you can be to 100% sure that youre problem is "internet" sided. i have the feeling that most of the people here rather believe in curses like "My Steam Account is infected" instead of this.

What bothers me is simply that no one takes it that seriously that even internet can have a very immense impact on your gameplay. People only look at the ping, if it's good and exclude the internet right away. "Then it must be something with the power !!!! Because my ping is so and so blah blah blah.

Please remember one thing. Not everyone who is connected to the internet will have the same gaming experience as others. Some people like Shroud have an immense advantage and others suffer no matter how good the ping is.
i have fiber 500 up 500 down 5 ping 2 jitter and it still could be my internet?
This is exactly the type of thing he's telling you not to do. do not assume. god dammit.
but you probably need to move out of your house first.
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triplese
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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by triplese » 15 Jul 2022, 10:13

DPRTMELR wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 11:21
This is a complicated topic, if you got something real on it's actual effectiveness of reducing ns in base cpu/ram cycles, people will be definetely interested.(something more real beyond having intel and saying its epic, or having amd and saying 3600c16 is more than enough in 2022). You can follow Ian Cutress of anandtech and read over his results and his readings of it to learn more.
I am not expert in such tiny things, but I dont believe that nanoseconds can greatly affect gaming performance. If you have QC passed hardware, anything must work as intended. CPU and RAM manufacturers is not idiots.
IMHO any fixes as SMT on/off, RAM profiles, anything doesnt affect online gaming so much as intenet quality.
If that was affecting things, we already know this and esports players will be using custom bioses and other tweaks.

BTW, few month ago I have conversation with NAVI admin, he told that they dont using any tweaks,network QoS or something. Just defaults PCs and then player customizing it for himself. But on arena they dont have possibility to tweaks so much, so...

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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by triplese » 15 Jul 2022, 10:24

DPRTMELR wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 12:18
I think for internet related lag tips (anything that goes beyod your top end router) people really need to declare their country and their provider or at least the type of service they get, fttp, cable, dial up etc. People are again just stabbing in the dark it worked for me it didn't. Like why would OP post a screenshot of csgo instead of treacert comparisons whyyyyyyyyyyy.
Because I'm pretty sure that it works. I have 4 routers (xiaomi mi router with openwrt, which I started was, Linksys MR9600, mikrotik hapac2 and Juniper SRX320), 1 Gbit symmetrical FTTH.
What you want to see in traceroute comparison? Few less hops and -10ms?
Pingplotter screenshot is maybe more applicable here, but nor traceroute or pingplotter show in game desync.

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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by triplese » 15 Jul 2022, 10:31

joseph_from_pilsen wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 12:59
You are...

here is mine in 35yo https://humanbenchmark.com/users/5cd5bd ... 0001ee0a3a
Maybe you have better reaction, but you really dumb to click at stats button near your benchmark and see that 200ms is normal human reaction.

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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by triplese » 15 Jul 2022, 10:35

texre wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 15:54
i have fiber 500 up 500 down 5 ping 2 jitter and it still could be my internet?
Check your contract with ISP, if there nothing said about SLA's then it can be your Internet.
I even dont say, that some ISPs have high priority rule for ICMP packets lol.

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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by joseph_from_pilsen » 15 Jul 2022, 11:55

The problem is that you mention csgo, this game has really terrible netcode. In china hardcore players with 4ms fiber and 2ms jitter intentionally use VPN to singapore to have at least 30-40ms like others and not being DISadvantaged. Because the netcode of csgo online sucks and favours higher ping, if you look carefully, the game runs buffered online, if you are peeked, you can do what you want but there is nothing the server will take in consideration, the peeker always hits you even if you A / D instantly before he shoots so you could expect to get decent chance to dodge and not be headshoted but the server simply ignores it and takes peekers input. In replay server sided there wont be any A D movement. Thats why the guy repaired his csgo lags by using VPN. He is now at par and he can enjoy the same 100ms buffer (diff, call it whatever you want, its the diff server/client at real time which is huge in this game) which is given to other players not being so easy target as he is not so easy to hit like fiber players because even his opponents dont get actual info about his position and movement and need to play RNG with interpolation.

I can give only one advice - organize a LAN event, invite 9 other players and play offline. And hell, if you have good reactions, offline you will roflstomp, not like online where its irrelevant and sometimes even counterproductive as you try to hit before sync applies (good example of good LAN bad online player is dev1ce from astralis, during RMR he was really terrible, then at first LAN event he roflstomped again).
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DPRTMELR
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Re: How I solved my CSGO "input" lags

Post by DPRTMELR » 15 Jul 2022, 11:57

I am not expert in such tiny things, but I dont believe that nanoseconds can greatly affect gaming performance. If you have QC passed hardware, anything must work as intended. CPU and RAM manufacturers is not idiots.
IMHO any fixes as SMT on/off, RAM profiles, anything doesnt affect online gaming so much as intenet quality.
If that was affecting things, we already know this and esports players will be using custom bioses and other tweaks.

Yeah and many cap fps at 3-400 for consistency sake, but they are literally in the pro in the sense that even their mouse sensitivity will not be feeling exact and they would just get it done by readjusting them selves during the warms ups on lan.

Also I just imagined idiots bluescreening in middle of lan matches, probably better the way it is lol.

DW I think i got your reason on why a csgo screen is the only proof. maybe next year.
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