Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
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assombrosso
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Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
I have purchased EcoFlow river power station to test difference in gameplay for two days so far.
I have tried plugging pc, monitor and router to the generator. In the beginning I felt some difference in bullets reg and mouse being solid but I thought it maybe due to me powering pc after shutdown (which usually makes pc perform better for around 20 minutes in most cases ).
And obviously, I can’t play for longer than 1 hour with the station to see if gameplay is going to deteriorate or not but 1 hour isn’t enough to say it’s the station.
After power station, I switched pc off and tried without playing while charged, gameplay became noticeably worse in terms of bullets reg, not being able to control mouse and keyboard becoming slower. Biggest thing I have noticed when plugged in electricity (no station) how when you try to spray and you feel/see the bullets go late or desynchronised with what spray should be like.
Overall, I would say The difference is noticeable but isn’t big enough to make purchasing the station worth it for me (will return back soon).
I’m comparing this to the difference of gameplay when I used to reinstall windows for 30-40 minutes. how mouse keyboard and bullets are near perfect, I thought that’s what I was going to get with the station but I was mistaken.
To make sure the gameplay with power station was purely related to powerstation/electricity, and not pc performing well after being powered on from a shutdown, I plugged my pc through power station’s AC outlet and charged the power station with electricity,so when I want to test the difference I can unplug the power station charger and continue to play while the PC is on. And after I played with power station solely and then charging the power station. what I immediately noticed is how badly my mouse became( harder to control /slow) as well as slow keyboard (when AD ) and how bullets started to desynchronise.
The difference is definitely there but not as much as I expected. It’s at least good to know electricity plays a key in this issue.
Any tips in improving my testing ? MaXimising efficiency of powerstation usage?
I heard some posters who said the dirty electricity can “infect” the lithium batteries of the power station, if that’s true, then take that could be the reason to why it’s not perfect solution?
Would charging pc through solar panels might be the best option here?
I have tried plugging pc, monitor and router to the generator. In the beginning I felt some difference in bullets reg and mouse being solid but I thought it maybe due to me powering pc after shutdown (which usually makes pc perform better for around 20 minutes in most cases ).
And obviously, I can’t play for longer than 1 hour with the station to see if gameplay is going to deteriorate or not but 1 hour isn’t enough to say it’s the station.
After power station, I switched pc off and tried without playing while charged, gameplay became noticeably worse in terms of bullets reg, not being able to control mouse and keyboard becoming slower. Biggest thing I have noticed when plugged in electricity (no station) how when you try to spray and you feel/see the bullets go late or desynchronised with what spray should be like.
Overall, I would say The difference is noticeable but isn’t big enough to make purchasing the station worth it for me (will return back soon).
I’m comparing this to the difference of gameplay when I used to reinstall windows for 30-40 minutes. how mouse keyboard and bullets are near perfect, I thought that’s what I was going to get with the station but I was mistaken.
To make sure the gameplay with power station was purely related to powerstation/electricity, and not pc performing well after being powered on from a shutdown, I plugged my pc through power station’s AC outlet and charged the power station with electricity,so when I want to test the difference I can unplug the power station charger and continue to play while the PC is on. And after I played with power station solely and then charging the power station. what I immediately noticed is how badly my mouse became( harder to control /slow) as well as slow keyboard (when AD ) and how bullets started to desynchronise.
The difference is definitely there but not as much as I expected. It’s at least good to know electricity plays a key in this issue.
Any tips in improving my testing ? MaXimising efficiency of powerstation usage?
I heard some posters who said the dirty electricity can “infect” the lithium batteries of the power station, if that’s true, then take that could be the reason to why it’s not perfect solution?
Would charging pc through solar panels might be the best option here?
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DPRTMELR
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
A lot of US states incentivizes home owners by offering low rate loans and tax credits as part of their going green or whatever. I don't think it's any more affordable than to moving completely if you wanted to do it yourself from the ground up. Check up with your local government. Maybe it's not too bad if you are looking for small scale like just for your computer. But just the installation =\
Batteries can degrade quicker from poor power source, but you are gonna have to bang it real bad to make it wavy enough to cause issue. If anything doesn't this mean the issue is not the power source and something within the computer? try sticking in multimeter around the house (at least all the outlets for the breaker the computer is stuck on) and try to isolate. maybe check bios's 3v 5v 12v to see if they are in range properly that's probably easier. I think you are all over the place with steam accounts, new windows, new power stations etc. lol, rule something out and then go next.I heard some posters who said the dirty electricity can “infect” the lithium batteries of the power station, if that’s true, then take that could be the reason to why it’s not perfect solution?
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
The thing is that to rule out, you should go downwards, so:
Human -> Interference/electricity -> Bad hardware -> Bad hardware firmware / BIOS/UEFI -> Bad drivers / system setup -> Bad internet -> Bad account -> Even more stupid ideas.
Because if you try to rule out from the middle of the list, you can't be sure if your tests are not affected by something above in this list.
Human -> Interference/electricity -> Bad hardware -> Bad hardware firmware / BIOS/UEFI -> Bad drivers / system setup -> Bad internet -> Bad account -> Even more stupid ideas.
Because if you try to rule out from the middle of the list, you can't be sure if your tests are not affected by something above in this list.
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assombrosso
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
Tried different operating systems in all of my 4-5 different locations I tried this pc on, 3-4 different ISP in all these locations, different steam accounts in all these locations and operating systems, different windows settings and different bios versions, lowered cpu ram gpu speed and recently a power station.dervu wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 12:13The thing is that to rule out, you should go downwards, so:
Human -> Interference/electricity -> Bad hardware -> Bad hardware firmware / BIOS/UEFI -> Bad drivers / system setup -> Bad internet -> Bad account -> Even more stupid ideas.
Because if you try to rule out from the middle of the list, you can't be sure if your tests are not affected by something above in this list.
The only thing that gave me improvement was lowering cpu ram gpu speed after I did it for 20 minutes then it came back, trying certain windows 10 21H version for 30 minutes-50minutes after reinstall, trying different steam accounts give better smooth gameplay for hours or days compared to old steam accounts (I think happens to most people) then lag comes back, power station give better gameplay than when charged but no where near fresh windows reinstall.
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assombrosso
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
My ultimate theory is pc’s are different in how much they get affected by bad electricity, my pc is one of those that is really sensitive. In 3 monthsDPRTMELR wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 11:57
A lot of US states incentivizes home owners by offering low rate loans and tax credits as part of their going green or whatever. I don't think it's any more affordable than to moving completely if you wanted to do it yourself from the ground up. Check up with your local government. Maybe it's not too bad if you are looking for small scale like just for your computer. But just the installation =\
Batteries can degrade quicker from poor power source, but you are gonna have to bang it real bad to make it wavy enough to cause issue. If anything doesn't this mean the issue is not the power source and something within the computer? try sticking in multimeter around the house (at least all the outlets for the breaker the computer is stuck on) and try to isolate. maybe check bios's 3v 5v 12v to see if they are in range properly that's probably easier. I think you are all over the place with steam accounts, new windows, new power stations etc. lol, rule something out and then go next.I heard some posters who said the dirty electricity can “infect” the lithium batteries of the power station, if that’s true, then take that could be the reason to why it’s not perfect solution?
, I will sell pc for a new one, if no fix, it’s time to move on and simply play with the lag
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Shade7
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
If you don't want to buy a new PC at the moment, you could try replacing certain parts at first. Could always return them if they don't make a significant difference.assombrosso wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 15:00My ultimate theory is pc’s are different in how much they get affected by bad electricity, my pc is one of those that is really sensitive. In 3 monthsDPRTMELR wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 11:57
A lot of US states incentivizes home owners by offering low rate loans and tax credits as part of their going green or whatever. I don't think it's any more affordable than to moving completely if you wanted to do it yourself from the ground up. Check up with your local government. Maybe it's not too bad if you are looking for small scale like just for your computer. But just the installation =\
Batteries can degrade quicker from poor power source, but you are gonna have to bang it real bad to make it wavy enough to cause issue. If anything doesn't this mean the issue is not the power source and something within the computer? try sticking in multimeter around the house (at least all the outlets for the breaker the computer is stuck on) and try to isolate. maybe check bios's 3v 5v 12v to see if they are in range properly that's probably easier. I think you are all over the place with steam accounts, new windows, new power stations etc. lol, rule something out and then go next.I heard some posters who said the dirty electricity can “infect” the lithium batteries of the power station, if that’s true, then take that could be the reason to why it’s not perfect solution?
, I will sell pc for a new one, if no fix, it’s time to move on and simply play with the lag
Try switching PSU & MOBO.
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assombrosso
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
Tried different PSU, no change.Shade7 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 15:04If you don't want to buy a new PC at the moment, you could try replacing certain parts at first. Could always return them if they don't make a significant difference.assombrosso wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 15:00My ultimate theory is pc’s are different in how much they get affected by bad electricity, my pc is one of those that is really sensitive. In 3 monthsDPRTMELR wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 11:57
A lot of US states incentivizes home owners by offering low rate loans and tax credits as part of their going green or whatever. I don't think it's any more affordable than to moving completely if you wanted to do it yourself from the ground up. Check up with your local government. Maybe it's not too bad if you are looking for small scale like just for your computer. But just the installation =\
Batteries can degrade quicker from poor power source, but you are gonna have to bang it real bad to make it wavy enough to cause issue. If anything doesn't this mean the issue is not the power source and something within the computer? try sticking in multimeter around the house (at least all the outlets for the breaker the computer is stuck on) and try to isolate. maybe check bios's 3v 5v 12v to see if they are in range properly that's probably easier. I think you are all over the place with steam accounts, new windows, new power stations etc. lol, rule something out and then go next.I heard some posters who said the dirty electricity can “infect” the lithium batteries of the power station, if that’s true, then take that could be the reason to why it’s not perfect solution?
, I will sell pc for a new one, if no fix, it’s time to move on and simply play with the lag
Try switching PSU & MOBO.
Tried different rams no change.
I was thinking of trying different mobo as the one I bought is famous for having issues, Aorus elite b550 v1.
There’s something that I can do which should be easy if it works, asking a near pro csgo player where he lives in my small city, tell him my issue and bringing my pc to his location to test, if issue still happen it’s pc or emi damaged pc. But good luck finding a pro players who’s gona let me play in his house lolol
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assombrosso
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
I’ll be updating this thread on a daily basis trying different methods techniques and will report outcome. Gotta do it under 5 days to avoid refund policy expiry
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DPRTMELR
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
assombrosso wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 14:45Tried different operating systems in all of my 4-5 different locations I tried this pc on, 3-4 different ISP in all these locations, different steam accounts in all these locations and operating systems, different windows settings and different bios versions, lowered cpu ram gpu speed and recently a power station.dervu wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 12:13The thing is that to rule out, you should go downwards, so:
Human -> Interference/electricity -> Bad hardware -> Bad hardware firmware / BIOS/UEFI -> Bad drivers / system setup -> Bad internet -> Bad account -> Even more stupid ideas.
Because if you try to rule out from the middle of the list, you can't be sure if your tests are not affected by something above in this list.
The only thing that gave me improvement was lowering cpu ram gpu speed after I did it for 20 minutes then it came back, trying certain windows 10 21H version for 30 minutes-50minutes after reinstall, trying different steam accounts give better smooth gameplay for hours or days compared to old steam accounts (I think happens to most people) then lag comes back, power station give better gameplay than when charged but no where near fresh windows reinstall.
You are missing the point. He's saying do those things in order to know what's what for sure.
I would do it like this though:
Bad drivers / system setup - -> Bad internet -> Bad hardware firmware / BIOS/UEFI - -> Interference/electricity -> Bad account -> Even more stupid ideas.
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Shade7
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Re: Difference in gameplay after purchasing power station unit
You could try that.assombrosso wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 15:17Tried different PSU, no change.Shade7 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 15:04If you don't want to buy a new PC at the moment, you could try replacing certain parts at first. Could always return them if they don't make a significant difference.assombrosso wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 15:00My ultimate theory is pc’s are different in how much they get affected by bad electricity, my pc is one of those that is really sensitive. In 3 monthsDPRTMELR wrote: ↑28 Jul 2022, 11:57
A lot of US states incentivizes home owners by offering low rate loans and tax credits as part of their going green or whatever. I don't think it's any more affordable than to moving completely if you wanted to do it yourself from the ground up. Check up with your local government. Maybe it's not too bad if you are looking for small scale like just for your computer. But just the installation =\
Batteries can degrade quicker from poor power source, but you are gonna have to bang it real bad to make it wavy enough to cause issue. If anything doesn't this mean the issue is not the power source and something within the computer? try sticking in multimeter around the house (at least all the outlets for the breaker the computer is stuck on) and try to isolate. maybe check bios's 3v 5v 12v to see if they are in range properly that's probably easier. I think you are all over the place with steam accounts, new windows, new power stations etc. lol, rule something out and then go next.
, I will sell pc for a new one, if no fix, it’s time to move on and simply play with the lag
Try switching PSU & MOBO.
Tried different rams no change.
I was thinking of trying different mobo as the one I bought is famous for having issues, Aorus elite b550 v1.
There’s something that I can do which should be easy if it works, asking a near pro csgo player where he lives in my small city, tell him my issue and bringing my pc to his location to test, if issue still happen it’s pc or emi damaged pc. But good luck finding a pro players who’s gona let me play in his house lolol
And if he agrees- you should have him try your out pc too- see what he thinks.
After seeing you mention lowering ram/cpu/gpu speeds gave some smoothness temporarily- I definitely think you should give a mobo swap a try. So far, I have seen a decent amount of people have their issues fixed after replacing a wonky mobo.
