ADSL vs FTTH

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ZINZIRIO
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ADSL vs FTTH

Post by ZINZIRIO » 24 Dec 2022, 07:01

Hello how are you all? I've been reading a lot of forums here about the problem that many of our FPS players have with the "entry delay" The enemies see us before and so on... I come to tell my experience and at the same time leave a question if anyone knows and can answer for their experience or knowledge.
where to start...
I am a player who has played different games over the years trying to compete and reach a high level in each of them and I have gone through different configurations and connections, I started playing with a 3G modem then 4G and now with ADSL I remember that before with 3G/4G I had more ping but I had more reaction time against enemies. I felt that I didn't have to be so fast on my monitor, that I had a "normal" time to react against my enemies, then when I had the opportunity to play with ADSL my hitreg improved a lot but I felt that I had lost that "time" against the enemies, I then assumed that the problem is related to the internet and not electricity, until recently I was playing with that problem until I I came up with the idea, supported by a friend who also suffers from the same thing, to place a copper javelin for my PC in the back of my house and the difference was day and night in the first 2 days, then it gradually came back what it was before... As I said before, my hitreg was never affected, it was always my reaction time against my enemy, it undoubtedly made me quite angry that the solution was not that but it also opened a new door saying if in the end it is the internet or The problem is electricity... I also clarify that I live in a very sparsely populated area where electrical noise and saturated internet are probably unlikely, but well, the reaction problem is there... Now my question is the following, in 1- 2 months I will have FTTH in my house for the first time and I will leave ADSL once and for all and I am honestly very excited that the problem will be solved, there are no more different ISPs, it is only 1 for all and it is the same one that is doing the change from ADSL to FTTH, anyone had the same experience of changing from ADSL to FTTH and their problems were solved? What do you think about it? The truth is that as I said before I have great hopes and want to try and see if the solution is really there or the internet in my case has nothing to do with it, I also clarify that if I play with 4G I have a worse hitreg but I have more time to reaction, I'm at a point where I don't know if it's the internet or electricity because of the difference when placing a javelin, I await your answers and thank you all very much, hopefully one day there will be a solution for all of us which is not to move house.

ZINZIRIO
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by ZINZIRIO » 24 Dec 2022, 07:08

I am using a translator and it does not translate well, but I wanted to say that I came up with the idea of ​​putting a copper javelin in the back of my house and the problem was solved for 2 days but then it went back to how it was before and then I mention that There is only 1 ISP, there is no option to change to another.

djoni
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by djoni » 24 Dec 2022, 08:45

ZINZIRIO wrote:
24 Dec 2022, 07:01
Hello how are you all? I've been reading a lot of forums here about the problem that many of our FPS players have with the "entry delay" The enemies see us before and so on... I come to tell my experience and at the same time leave a question if anyone knows and can answer for their experience or knowledge.
where to start...
I am a player who has played different games over the years trying to compete and reach a high level in each of them and I have gone through different configurations and connections, I started playing with a 3G modem then 4G and now with ADSL I remember that before with 3G/4G I had more ping but I had more reaction time against enemies. I felt that I didn't have to be so fast on my monitor, that I had a "normal" time to react against my enemies, then when I had the opportunity to play with ADSL my hitreg improved a lot but I felt that I had lost that "time" against the enemies, I then assumed that the problem is related to the internet and not electricity, until recently I was playing with that problem until I I came up with the idea, supported by a friend who also suffers from the same thing, to place a copper javelin for my PC in the back of my house and the difference was day and night in the first 2 days, then it gradually came back what it was before... As I said before, my hitreg was never affected, it was always my reaction time against my enemy, it undoubtedly made me quite angry that the solution was not that but it also opened a new door saying if in the end it is the internet or The problem is electricity... I also clarify that I live in a very sparsely populated area where electrical noise and saturated internet are probably unlikely, but well, the reaction problem is there... Now my question is the following, in 1- 2 months I will have FTTH in my house for the first time and I will leave ADSL once and for all and I am honestly very excited that the problem will be solved, there are no more different ISPs, it is only 1 for all and it is the same one that is doing the change from ADSL to FTTH, anyone had the same experience of changing from ADSL to FTTH and their problems were solved? What do you think about it? The truth is that as I said before I have great hopes and want to try and see if the solution is really there or the internet in my case has nothing to do with it, I also clarify that if I play with 4G I have a worse hitreg but I have more time to reaction, I'm at a point where I don't know if it's the internet or electricity because of the difference when placing a javelin, I await your answers and thank you all very much, hopefully one day there will be a solution for all of us which is not to move house.
With 3G/4G connection you have worse ping and that's the reason why your hitreg was worse than with the wired ADSL, but the ADSL is congested and full of error corrections, suffers with UDP packets which most of the FPS games use and therefore you experience this reaction problem. As for the FTTH, depends how many devices that use internet connection you have at home. If your whole family are using streaming services via wifi and you share your internet connection with them through some budget router, it is never going to be even near perfect, even though you are using fiber internet. I am currently using an upgraded version of ADSL - VDSL with way higher bandwidth, but still when someone is attached to the wi-fi and plays a song via Youtube I can instantly tell, becasue my gameplay becomes terrible. I experience rubberbanding without noticeable difference in ping and no packet loss. Immediately after the streaming platform is closed my gameplay returns back to normal.

ZINZIRIO
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by ZINZIRIO » 24 Dec 2022, 09:48

Thank you very much for your answer, as for whether or not I am going to share my connection is a resounding NO, it is only for me and when I play I turn off the wifi, I just hope that changing from ADSL to FTTH solves that reaction problem that I am commenting, luckily we are also very few customers and the box where the fiber optic cable comes from is only 20 meters from my house and I am the first in line, but as I said before I still do not have the service enabled and hopefully the connection change finish fix that, hitreg issues if i don't have.

djoni
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by djoni » 24 Dec 2022, 13:41

ZINZIRIO wrote:
24 Dec 2022, 09:48
Thank you very much for your answer, as for whether or not I am going to share my connection is a resounding NO, it is only for me and when I play I turn off the wifi, I just hope that changing from ADSL to FTTH solves that reaction problem that I am commenting, luckily we are also very few customers and the box where the fiber optic cable comes from is only 20 meters from my house and I am the first in line, but as I said before I still do not have the service enabled and hopefully the connection change finish fix that, hitreg issues if i don't have.
You are welcome! As for the FTTH - for sure you will notice improved game play, it is day and night difference compared with your current ADSL. It also depends which game you play and what rate settings you are using, they are one of the most important thing for lag-free experience.

delve
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by delve » 26 Dec 2022, 20:20

I did switch from Adsl to FTTH, but the problem with desync/no time to react is still there.

It just feels slightly different:

- desync seems to vary several hundred miliseconds between different servers, ping doesnt' play a role in this

- I now notice hitreg problems which I didn't have with Adsl

- overall way more bullshit moments with ferrari peaks, ballerina twirls, enemy is literally jump shooting me, killing me mid air, which isn't even possible in the game i play. To me the desync is more obvious on FTTH.

skkiNN
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by skkiNN » 27 Dec 2022, 11:51

delve wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 20:20
I did switch from Adsl to FTTH, but the problem with desync/no time to react is still there.

It just feels slightly different:

- desync seems to vary several hundred miliseconds between different servers, ping doesnt' play a role in this

- I now notice hitreg problems which I didn't have with Adsl

- overall way more bullshit moments with ferrari peaks, ballerina twirls, enemy is literally jump shooting me, killing me mid air, which isn't even possible in the game i play. To me the desync is more obvious on FTTH.
Same fuckin situation as you. I got fiber since 2003, and ofc i tried to change to adsl or to other fiber companies, but same damn situation as you my man.

ZINZIRIO
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by ZINZIRIO » 27 Dec 2022, 15:39

I was quite excited but my joy was lowered... In my case I have a perfect hitreg but I don't have time to react some days in the games and I have that feeling that the enemies choose me, I live in a small town outside the city where we are at most 200 clients that consume internet and well now they are doing all the infrastructure with FTTH and I am waiting for the change, hopefully in my case it will be different from yours and really the positive difference is with FTTH but I am aware that not all we run with the same luck, do you live in a highly populated area? Or is it more rural like here?

ZINZIRIO
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Re: ADSL vs FTTH

Post by ZINZIRIO » 27 Dec 2022, 15:48

In my case, I would like to clarify that there are times when the problem appears in a more serious or notorious way than others, many of those who post here at night are where they have the best performance and I think it coincides that it is where less data traffic goes through the network at hours of the morning with which the congestion decreases, in my case sometimes I have noticed that feeling of congestion bad reg etc but very rarely, in this case they are going to install FTTH a hair of fiber directly to my house which is divided in 4 boxes for 32 clients, the first 8 is a box that is right in front of my house and of those 8 a maximum of 3-4 are going to be used and then in the other 3 boxes I imagine about 15-20 more, I was looking and investigating that in my case, being the first box of the 4, I am going to have better values ​​than the next three, so maybe in my case my FTTH will not have problems, but I still don't think this problem is for that reason, I just share that in my case I will have an excellent position and As far as infrastructure is concerned.

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