would buying an old PC solve it?

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delve
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by delve » 03 Jan 2023, 12:14

Did you disable the mouse accel in XP?

Future
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Future » 03 Jan 2023, 12:31

Yes, ofc, also repeat delay to short in Keyboard settings. Actually these + disabling vsync were the only three things that I did, everything else default. When I ran mouseratechecker it was reporting some innacurate polling rates that just can't be real, according to it my polling rate was jumping to 10000hz but I think it's just wrong measurement because it wasn't meant to work on XP. Anyhow, mouse was completely smooth and inputs were snappy and accurate, they were representing my hand movement like I was live in the OS. Something that I can't achieve in any other OS.

Zodasaur
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Zodasaur » 06 Jan 2023, 14:04

Future wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:43
I think it's not the pc parts, it's the OS. Win 7 and 8.1 were noticeably laggier and the input lag persisted with the same old pc, whereas Win XP was completely fine even without any tweaking, just vsync disabled. Now what I observed was that the fps was dropping even in CS 1.6 on both win7/8.1, but XP was great, no fps drops at all. And I know that I mustn't have any fps drop in 1.6 at all, this game runs fine even on a toaster. Is it coincidence that there were no fps drops and input lag? I don't think so. Perhaps what's causing the fps drops is causing the input lag too. But what changed and what's different? If I found out prolly I'm gonna be able to fix the input lag also. When I disabled the hardware acceleration in the sound control panel in XP, the sound buffer was broken, I had to adjust snd_mixahead cvar in game so that I could hear proper sounds, but the game was amazing man, I can't even describe it.
How are you installing Counter Strike 1.6 on your toasters? The only smart toasters I can find use arm CPUs. And as far as I can tell it's not possible to get CS 1.6 running on these types of processors.

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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Future » 07 Jan 2023, 02:48

Zodasaur wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 14:04
Future wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:43
I think it's not the pc parts, it's the OS. Win 7 and 8.1 were noticeably laggier and the input lag persisted with the same old pc, whereas Win XP was completely fine even without any tweaking, just vsync disabled. Now what I observed was that the fps was dropping even in CS 1.6 on both win7/8.1, but XP was great, no fps drops at all. And I know that I mustn't have any fps drop in 1.6 at all, this game runs fine even on a toaster. Is it coincidence that there were no fps drops and input lag? I don't think so. Perhaps what's causing the fps drops is causing the input lag too. But what changed and what's different? If I found out prolly I'm gonna be able to fix the input lag also. When I disabled the hardware acceleration in the sound control panel in XP, the sound buffer was broken, I had to adjust snd_mixahead cvar in game so that I could hear proper sounds, but the game was amazing man, I can't even describe it.
How are you installing Counter Strike 1.6 on your toasters? The only smart toasters I can find use arm CPUs. And as far as I can tell it's not possible to get CS 1.6 running on these types of processors.
It's a sarcastic way to say that the game is light and has almost zero requirements to run on any pc, not that it literally runs on a toaster. :D

Guys, focus your energy here, now that I know it's a problem with the OS, let's find together what is causing the input lag. There is just no bloody way these games run terrible on newer OSes but not on XP, how do you explain that?

Mentucius
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Mentucius » 07 Jan 2023, 04:05

Future wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 02:48
Zodasaur wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 14:04
Future wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:43
I think it's not the pc parts, it's the OS. Win 7 and 8.1 were noticeably laggier and the input lag persisted with the same old pc, whereas Win XP was completely fine even without any tweaking, just vsync disabled. Now what I observed was that the fps was dropping even in CS 1.6 on both win7/8.1, but XP was great, no fps drops at all. And I know that I mustn't have any fps drop in 1.6 at all, this game runs fine even on a toaster. Is it coincidence that there were no fps drops and input lag? I don't think so. Perhaps what's causing the fps drops is causing the input lag too. But what changed and what's different? If I found out prolly I'm gonna be able to fix the input lag also. When I disabled the hardware acceleration in the sound control panel in XP, the sound buffer was broken, I had to adjust snd_mixahead cvar in game so that I could hear proper sounds, but the game was amazing man, I can't even describe it.
How are you installing Counter Strike 1.6 on your toasters? The only smart toasters I can find use arm CPUs. And as far as I can tell it's not possible to get CS 1.6 running on these types of processors.
It's a sarcastic way to say that the game is light and has almost zero requirements to run on any pc, not that it literally runs on a toaster. :D

Guys, focus your energy here, now that I know it's a problem with the OS, let's find together what is causing the input lag. There is just no bloody way these games run terrible on newer OSes but not on XP, how do you explain that?
Check the 4 th post here, I’m talking about microsoft, and other people calling me crazy and that I have personal problems with microsoft..etc

Mentucius
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Mentucius » 07 Jan 2023, 04:08

Future wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 02:48
Zodasaur wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 14:04
Future wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:43
I think it's not the pc parts, it's the OS. Win 7 and 8.1 were noticeably laggier and the input lag persisted with the same old pc, whereas Win XP was completely fine even without any tweaking, just vsync disabled. Now what I observed was that the fps was dropping even in CS 1.6 on both win7/8.1, but XP was great, no fps drops at all. And I know that I mustn't have any fps drop in 1.6 at all, this game runs fine even on a toaster. Is it coincidence that there were no fps drops and input lag? I don't think so. Perhaps what's causing the fps drops is causing the input lag too. But what changed and what's different? If I found out prolly I'm gonna be able to fix the input lag also. When I disabled the hardware acceleration in the sound control panel in XP, the sound buffer was broken, I had to adjust snd_mixahead cvar in game so that I could hear proper sounds, but the game was amazing man, I can't even describe it.
How are you installing Counter Strike 1.6 on your toasters? The only smart toasters I can find use arm CPUs. And as far as I can tell it's not possible to get CS 1.6 running on these types of processors.
It's a sarcastic way to say that the game is light and has almost zero requirements to run on any pc, not that it literally runs on a toaster. :D

Guys, focus your energy here, now that I know it's a problem with the OS, let's find together what is causing the input lag. There is just no bloody way these games run terrible on newer OSes but not on XP, how do you explain that?
and I wrote this in another post too : Guys no matters the research we go, the changes we do, how many pc we buy, or how many electricity changes we do to fix this, that we WONT FIX THIS. If this is made on purpose we re fucked. Only the big companies like Microsoft, Nvidia or who knows, know how to fix this. But maybe they re not interesting to fix this, better have a 5% percent of population to this issue so they will be keep buying thing etc… I think they re playing with us veeery hard, they laughing at us in the face every second and will happens during years and years (and our lifes will finish keeping this issue). I keep saying we should regroup all people who re experimenting this and move to Microsoft offices and tell them seriously, even burn their office if it’s necessary but this have to be fixed, in the peek of era technology we can’t fight with this fukking issue in our entire life

Unixko
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Unixko » 07 Jan 2023, 04:47

Mentucius wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 04:08
Future wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 02:48
Zodasaur wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 14:04
Future wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:43
I think it's not the pc parts, it's the OS. Win 7 and 8.1 were noticeably laggier and the input lag persisted with the same old pc, whereas Win XP was completely fine even without any tweaking, just vsync disabled. Now what I observed was that the fps was dropping even in CS 1.6 on both win7/8.1, but XP was great, no fps drops at all. And I know that I mustn't have any fps drop in 1.6 at all, this game runs fine even on a toaster. Is it coincidence that there were no fps drops and input lag? I don't think so. Perhaps what's causing the fps drops is causing the input lag too. But what changed and what's different? If I found out prolly I'm gonna be able to fix the input lag also. When I disabled the hardware acceleration in the sound control panel in XP, the sound buffer was broken, I had to adjust snd_mixahead cvar in game so that I could hear proper sounds, but the game was amazing man, I can't even describe it.
How are you installing Counter Strike 1.6 on your toasters? The only smart toasters I can find use arm CPUs. And as far as I can tell it's not possible to get CS 1.6 running on these types of processors.
It's a sarcastic way to say that the game is light and has almost zero requirements to run on any pc, not that it literally runs on a toaster. :D

Guys, focus your energy here, now that I know it's a problem with the OS, let's find together what is causing the input lag. There is just no bloody way these games run terrible on newer OSes but not on XP, how do you explain that?
and I wrote this in another post too : Guys no matters the research we go, the changes we do, how many pc we buy, or how many electricity changes we do to fix this, that we WONT FIX THIS. If this is made on purpose we re fucked. Only the big companies like Microsoft, Nvidia or who knows, know how to fix this. But maybe they re not interesting to fix this, better have a 5% percent of population to this issue so they will be keep buying thing etc… I think they re playing with us veeery hard, they laughing at us in the face every second and will happens during years and years (and our lifes will finish keeping this issue). I keep saying we should regroup all people who re experimenting this and move to Microsoft offices and tell them seriously, even burn their office if it’s necessary but this have to be fixed, in the peek of era technology we can’t fight with this fukking issue in our entire life
if you want a direction people you can start with perception
how to control our perception

Future
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Future » 07 Jan 2023, 04:59

It's not something in the human's perception, I wish it was. Buy an old lga775 pc, install winxp and you will be surprised how good everything is. Windows 7 with disabled composition is not even close to perfection of this os and how input-lagless it is. I blamed every single part in my pc, then i blamed my ISP and for some time I fell in the trap of these electrical nonsenses people tend to post for some time. After the inspiration @delve gave me I know that everything else you are doing is just a waste of time, it's something in the OS. I got no clue how deep it's burried but we must find if not a fix, at least a workaround.

Unixko
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Unixko » 07 Jan 2023, 05:02

Future wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 04:59
It's not something in the human's perception, I wish it was. Buy an old lga775 pc, install winxp and you will be surprised how good everything is. Windows 7 with disabled composition is not even close to perfection of this os and how input-lagless it is. I blamed every single part in my pc, then i blamed my ISP and for some time I fell in the trap of these electrical nonsenses people tend to post for some time. After the inspiration @delve gave me I know that everything else you are doing is just a waste of time, it's something in the OS. I got no clue how deep it's burried but we must find if not a fix, at least a workaround.
yes you trick yourself everytime you change something its take time for you brain to realize that you lying to yourself

Future
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Re: would buying an old PC solve it?

Post by Future » 07 Jan 2023, 05:20

Unixko wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 05:02
Future wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 04:59
It's not something in the human's perception, I wish it was. Buy an old lga775 pc, install winxp and you will be surprised how good everything is. Windows 7 with disabled composition is not even close to perfection of this os and how input-lagless it is. I blamed every single part in my pc, then i blamed my ISP and for some time I fell in the trap of these electrical nonsenses people tend to post for some time. After the inspiration @delve gave me I know that everything else you are doing is just a waste of time, it's something in the OS. I got no clue how deep it's burried but we must find if not a fix, at least a workaround.
yes you trick yourself everytime you change something its take time for you brain to realize that you lying to yourself
Fair enough, according to your theory I tricked myself twice, because after the first installation of winxp i went on 7 and 8.1 and then reinstalled xp back. How am I supposed to lie to myself after two reinstallations and inputlagless game sessions? Moreover how do you explain that there were fps drops on win7/8.1 but not even a 1fps drop on windows xp? How do you explain that in windows xp I could go to to 0.01 on snd_mixahead but on the newer versions everything below 0.05 was breaking the sound buffer? Things are not that simple, it's not human psychology, it's computer science that's involved.

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